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Model release for photography, i.e. pervert or paparazzi protection

Aestival Cohen
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12-17-2004 17:34
Now why would I want this? :rolleyes:

The same way snapshots get previewed to the person taking a photo, they would also get previewed to anybody who was *in* the photo. If anybody who sees the preview doesn't like it they press a button and the person taking the photo doesn't get to see them in it - like you had the ghost prim attachment on just while the picture was being taken. If you accept that then it's the same as normal.

A few details to make it livable:
- you only get asked if your Avie is a certain % of the picture. Like if you're only in the crowd and only a few inches high you don't get to veto, but if you're half the screen you do.
- you can turn it off for any future pictures by that person by pressing a button when the preview comes up.
- you can turn it off forever in your preferences.


Would this work? I'd originally thought of it as a veto even keeping the picture at all, but then I realized that with the computer you could just make the person who didn't want to be photographed disappear!
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Chip Midnight
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12-17-2004 18:34
Seems like an awful lot of trouble to implement when it could be gotten around just by using prtscn instead.
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12-17-2004 18:40
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Chip Midnight
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12-17-2004 18:54
At least people who recognize their av in an embarassing pic that's being used in a way they're not happy with can file an abuse report. You definitely raise an interesting issue.
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Chosen Few
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12-17-2004 22:00
As Chip said, this is an interesting issue. I very much doubt it's possible to impliment a snapshot shield in a practical manner, but the principle is certainly a worthy topic for debate, one that I haven't yet seen raised in SL.

Should an avatar's likeness have copyright protections? A very intriguing question. You might want to bring this to the general forum to get more community opinions on the subject (technology portion excluded of course since that part belongs only here).
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Strife Onizuka
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12-17-2004 22:47
It could be argued that LL holds the copyright to the renderings made by it's engine. Best to read the TOS and copyright notice.

There is no part of copyright law i know about that provides pervert or paparazzi protection, nor should there be (Imagine being a reported doing an undercover investigative report and having to get permission to film). Other laws do protect, anti stalking laws and wire tapping laws.

I don't really thing you should be doing something if you are worried about public reprisals.
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12-18-2004 02:36
From: Strife Onizuka
It could be argued that LL holds the copyright to the renderings made by it's engine. Best to read the TOS and copyright notice.

There is no part of copyright law i know about that provides pervert or paparazzi protection, nor should there be (Imagine being a reported doing an undercover investigative report and having to get permission to film). Other laws do protect, anti stalking laws and wire tapping laws.

I don't really thing you should be doing something if you are worried about public reprisals.

First of all, it can NOT be argued that LL would hold copyright to renderings made by its engine. A snapshot is simply a form of content created in SL, and acording to the TOS, the user, not LL, holds copyright to all SL content created by said user. Here is the applicable section of the TOS:

From: someone
5.3 Participant Content. Participants can create Content on Linden's servers in various forms. Linden acknowledges and agrees that, subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement, including without limitation the limited licenses granted by you to Linden herein, you will retain any and all applicable copyright and/or other intellectual property rights with respect to any Content you create using the Service.

Trying to claim that a snapshot belongs to LL because it was created with SL software would be like trying to claim Microsoft owns a novel because the author wrote it using MS Word or that Bic owns your shopping list because you wrote it with their pen. It's simply absurd.

Second, it easily could be argued that posting snapshots of avatars (and/or any other content) created by users is indeed a copyright violation since the user holds the copyright to the content displayed in the snapshot. It's a very gray area.

Third, in regard to what you said about copyright laws not providing protection against perverts or paparazzi, that is simply not true. LL has made it very clear that the laws of the State of California are to govern all activities within SL. In California, an individual has the right to prevent his or her likeness from being published without permission. The following is exerpted from http://www.superstock.com/copyright.asp:
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Right of Publicity

The right of publicity enables a person to prevent others from exploiting his or her name, likeness, voice, etc., without permission or authorization. There is no Federal statute or uniform state law that governs the right of publicity, so every state is different. For example, in Utah, only a person's likeness is protected and only while they are alive, while in California the likeness and photographs are protected for 50 years after death. In all states the likeness of a newsworthy person for non-commercial purposes, such as a news feature or a history book, is unrestricted.

Right of Privacy

Like the right of publicity, the right of privacy also differs from state to state. Essentially, it is the right that individuals have to prevent unwanted exposure of their private life. This is why model releases and in some cases even property releases are needed when using an image for commercial purposes.

However, what constitutes permission is another gray area. The following was exerpted from http://www.rcfp.org/photoguide/states/california.html:
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Private facts: The publication of a photo of revelers at a public "Exotic Erotic Ball" was protected because the activities were observable by thousands of strangers. Martin v. Penthouse, 12 Med. L. Rptr. 2058 (Cal. Ct. App. 1986).

So, it would seem that when someone is in full view of the puplic, his or her likeness at the time is public domain. Photographs taken of people in public situations are free to be published. It could be argued that when we are in SL, we are in an inherently public setting.

In regard to what you said about undercover reporters being free to operate without the permission of their subjects, that is not necessarily the case. Here is another exerpt from http://www.rcfp.org/photoguide/states/california.html:
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Intrusion: An undercover reporter who obtained a job as a "telepsychic" and secretly videotaped conversations with her coworkers might have intruded upon a coworkers seclusion because the coworkers expectation that his conversations might be overheard in the office did not prevent an expectation that the conversations were not being recorded by a reporter. Sanders v. American Broadcasting Cos., Inc., 978 P.2d 67 (Cal. 1999).

It would appear that reporters do NOT have the right to invade privacy. If the subject has reason to expect that his or her conversations would not be recorded by a reporter, then he or she has the right of privacy.


Anyway, back to the photographing avs question. It seems that whether or not it's legal to do so is largely dependent on how an avatar can be defined. Is it you or is it your creation?

If it is you, then you have no right to stop its being photographed. SL is a public environment. When you are in view of the public you absolutely can be photographed and the resulting pictures are publishable.

However, if it is your creation then you do have the right to prevent its being photographed. You hold the copyright to all content you create in SL. As the copyright holder you have the right to stop photographs of your work from being published.

As I said earlier, this is a very interesting topic for debate, one with considerabvle ramifications.
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Isaac Barrymore
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Restricting use pf snapshots taken without permission or knowledge.
12-31-2006 09:47
It is cleary illegal IRL to take pictures or video of a person in their home, or in what they would take to be a private place, without their permission and then to publish or use these images.

It should certainly be possible to restrict snapshots and video recordings within your own home, and should be impossible to take snapshots surreptitiously or through the wall of a private home.

None of us want snapshots or recordings of us in private in SL posted on the web or featured in the latest Media news story on SL without our permission.

While unauthorized use of snapshots of avatar's likeness may already be a violation of TOS, it would be great to have some tools to protect oneself on one's own property.
Public Places are another matter, but at the very least on should know when one is in a place that will expose one to unauthorized photography or video.

I ws suprised to see that there was not already a proposal or feature for this. Is there?
Malachi Petunia
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12-31-2006 09:53
It's a pixelated avatar in a game. :confused:
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Strife Onizuka
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12-31-2006 15:08
Regardless of if it should be illegal or against the TOS there is no way to stop people from doing it. As much as i crave privacy, any rule to keep people from taking pictures would be abused in ways i don't want to imagine.

From: Chip Midnight
Seems like an awful lot of trouble to implement when it could be gotten around just by using prtscn instead.
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Kyrah Abattoir
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12-31-2006 18:10
but you are in a multiplayer environement, where there is NO privacy feature...
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