The privacy thing

This question has been beat into the ground, particularly by me in the Sheepbot thread. so I will ask it here,and hopefully get a satisfactory answer so I can find another toic to wax hyperbolic on.

I have a house I "Bouight" on Land I "Bought". On occasion I may want to close the blinds, lock the doors turn out the lights, invite a friend over to.....discuss...say The Spanish Inquisition. while we are "discussing' , I don't want any resident to be able to A..TP in
B..Use Camera Tricks to see around the walls
C..Sit on a prim and float in to join the "discussion".

Please..someone explain to me in terms this Liberal Arts major can grasp why this can't be done.

Is it due to programming limitations? If so,can they be overcome in future releases?
Is it due to some unknown decree from The Providers? If so maybe we can see if more residents agree with me and we can convince them to change it. I really would like to know. It may seem trivial to many but it isn't to me. I think my 10 bucks a month, plus the 100 or so I spend each month buying Lindens, when they decide to make the system work entitles me to it.

In anarchy I has 3 different apartments - all of which were seperate instances, basically tiny private zones in and of themselves.

The only ones who could go inside were those I invited and those with that games versions of Linden Like Powers.

So althought that game was a lot different than Second Life - Its obviously technically Possible to make private areas.

Everquest 2 has apartments like that as well. i used to play AO long ago. I think this is a much better plan then what we got in SL. Even THERE.com has instanced apartments with a access/deny ability. The only way i can see of doing something like this is making the door to the house teleport you to a skybox with mad amounts of security and weaponry to blast people away from it if their not on the list. ;p

well if only the owner could tp to it and offer tps to others?

Perhaps charge $10 a month for the private apartment

but you shouldn't be allowed to do this, 'cuz I should be allowed to drive my car across your land. *wink*

OK....but options like that kind of exist now. Security orbs, shields, etc. Also I have an acess control menu on my hose. SO in theory I can keep you out of my house. But you can still use the camera to look through the wall or use hthe floating prim trick. Why? Why can't it be removed?

Because the camera is all client side. LL doesn't want to make an anti-camera feature because someone will just make a 3rd party client that ignores it.

Which is why we want parcel basements.

Thank You. For at least one logical explanation. Again , SL is dumbed down to the lowest level. I understand the Linden way of thinking now. "Let's not do anything about a problem, because someone will work around it anyway". Hmmmmm....

Me: "Doctor, I'm sick. Can you give me a flu shot?"
Doctor: "Why bother? You're gonna get sick again anyway"

LL can't control where the user pans their camera, but LL can definitely control what data the sim sends over to the client.

If someone isn't on the access list don't stream the prims/chat/whatever and then they can swirl their camera all they like, it won't do any good.

Dying Person: HELP! ive been shot

Doctor: Its more cost effective to let you die, Weve done the math - You would likely have died in 33.2 years and your earnings would be less than the cost of your treatment.

Or perhaps a Do not allow camera option, that we can OPT IN to.Or if some 3rd party does develop a feature to defeat that, which to me would be SL crime in my opinion, then another 3rd party can workaround the workaround. Spawn a real SL security industry. Some young go getter can figure it out, I'm sure. I'd even consider investing in such a venture.

true true.. i was just trying to supply a work around. The camera zoom is still a issue. I once proposed a feature to LL they should give a edit option for prims, to make some of them block cameras from going through them, but only allow it to work for the land owner to prevent griefers from making huge boxes to blind people.

But seeing how this cannot work with the way SL is designed currently, its probably best to give a edit option to hide the prims and anything inside them to people without access. We also would need to block them from reading the chat that happens within the building. Inviable prims will not do this properly. For us furries if we try to hide ourselves in a inviso prim, our prim attachments float around like ray man.

I appreciate your workaround, Yiffy. Perhaps it can be something that a coder can take to create what I am suggesting. *Kicks myself for taking too many Histoy, Music and Art Classes (and hanging out in pubs), and not enough Computer Science in College.*

You know after many years of experience I really don't care any longer about other people's perverse behaviour. If I am doing something naughty on my own land and some pervert is watching I figure that is his problem and not mine.

What do you know, you are nuts? . In the end you are right. I just have this annoying habit of asking why when told things can't be done.

If you make your land as low as it can go then build up thick walls made of earth can it be like a private basement? I tried it and apparently you can still see in the room with some effort but only if you know its there... still why not make it impossible to see inside the ground texture on a piece of land? Or create a space above the land where its all dead air and you cant ever see in ?

Elinah

True its his problem but its not his right and priviledge to watch you . I agree with the need for privacy especially when trying on skins or changing clothes...

Elinah

...some kinda stream filtration. Activated by some button on the land menu. Sounds more complicated than fixing my broken texture picker. I wont be banking on this happening anytime soon, but I like the concept.

Fewer prims to stream. fewer av's to show = less lag!

*Homer Simpson voice: " mmmmm, less lag"

No. The Parcel Basement request is one where each parcel gets its own isolated area that can not be accessed except from the land it belongs to, and only then by permission of the landowner (i.e. they teleport you).
The space is called a basement because it figuratively exists down below -600m.