What are we going to do? Age play

Recently, Linden Labs has announced that it will be introducing age verification to the grid. Users wishing to access "Adult" areas will be required to prove their age, either by drivers license, pass-port, or other forms of verification.

This really peeves me. What's this supposed to accomplish? To keep kids out of the grid? I'll tell you something, kids will always be in the grid. No matter how hard you try. Really, some kids can be really mature. I've heard of a handful. One held his own business, was a wonderful scripted, and was all around a good kid. LL wanted to protect kids from adult content when they started. Some kids are mature enough to avoid doing that.

I propose that Linden Labs take down their age verification, and install some other form of control. Everything was fine until we let anyone have any number of alts.

A few months ago, someone was able to hack into the Linden Labs Account database. What happens if someone is able to get into this third-party's database? It may not be easy, but everything is possible.

Sometimes, I want the two grids to be meshed. Age taken down. I want to see how creative minors can be. Some kids, on the other hand, are irresponsible, annoying, grievers. I know a lot of good kids, a lot of which I would like to have in this game. After all, we're all human. Age doesn't matter very much. The only thing that matters in a situation like this is a child's (or even an adults) maturity level. If a kid is mature enough to play Second Life without bothering people, and being able to have many friends, they should be able to stay.

Sure, it was a good idea at the time to install these two grids, and right now, I agree with it. But if a child gets onto the main grid, and they show they can be mature, let's keep them there. Most kids are mature enough to stay away from things that can hurt them, like porn. Why not trust them just a little more?

Yeah, it may sound like I'm a child. I'm sticking up for them, I'm saying that some should be allowed on the grid...But guess what: We're all human, and we're all in this together. I'll say this again: Age doesn't matter.

I really hope that some people out there agree with me, at least partly. Not all kids are the same. If you don't know that, maybe you should get a Darwin Award. Kids can be incredibly inelegant. Let's give them a chance. Let's give some of them the kick-start they need to a wonderful future. If I had something like Second Life when I was a kid, I would probably be in a much better position than I am now. If everyone is on the same grid, sharing ideas, with an equal level of respect...Can you imagine that? I think it would be great, personally.

That's just my two-cents. Think about it. Let it sit in your mind for a day or two.

I'll leave you all with this last idea: if we actually follow through with what I'm thinking, it may be the first step to uniting the world.



If you like these ideas, vote for my proposal : https://secure-web10.secondlife.com/vote/vote.php?get_id=3261

Yay! Yet another thread regurgitating the same points, arguments, and complaints that the other 40,000 posts on the same topic have yielded.

Congratulations, you're unique just like everyone else!

Do tell... what is your "some other form of control" that you speak of? What's that? You don't have a workable solution? And you only created a thread because you are attention-whoring?

What is the real message here? That kids should be allowed on the main grid because age doesn't matter because some kids are mature? In the title you say "Age play"... does this mean you want to "play" with real underage kids on the main grid and you are upset because that won't be as easy anymore? Is this a pedophilia thread?

Don't be so hostile. I created this thread because I believe I have points that others did not make.

Some other form of control, that could easily be just limiting people to one account. Like how it was last year. If a kid is found out, that's it, they're out. That would take care of the problem, leaving the children with a higher level of maturity to stay.

The message is that this age verification will just be a big hassle. As for the second point...This is in no way a pedophilia thread. I don't know where you got that from. I use the term 'Age play' to show that people must prove their age to play.

'Ageplay' in Second Life means to have sex with an underage avatar. You are aware of that correct?

Actually, no. Different things mean different things to different people.

I know first hand how creative kids can be. Let them be creative in their own grid. You want to have a monitored Neutral Zone where the can intereact in LIMITED fashion with adults, maybe. (I don't know how easy it would be to police). For a lot of us SL is a place to realize some fantasies, which sometimes include no children. And yes I would suggest you cahnge your terminology. Ageplay is definitely a lightning rod word.

Yeah...this could have been done in one of the hundred other age verification threads.

Also "gay" means different things to different people...yet we all know what the prevailing definition is in our respective circles...er go "ageplay" means "getting it on with underage avatars" in the general SL circle.

And when was the last time LL did anything major that a resident has proposed?

Oh wait...everyone WANTED age verification a couple months ago!

I met a kid the other day TWO YEARS OLD... that could spell oviparous and could name all the aminals that were in this category. Get Mommie's passport at 16...not a problem! The only problem I have with showing my identification is that I take ugly pictures.

MS

LL can't win can they?
No matter what they implement, ppl are going to complain.
Can't please them I all I suppose.

LOL

@ Original Poster

What does dis hafta do with "age play?" Didja make a mistake, or were ya trollin'?

Mari

Actually, yer referring to "sexual ageplay." The modifer is kinda important.

Dat said, It in no way is "you need to be a certain age to play," dat's jes silly.

Mari

I think he didn't know what the SL Definition was.

I was under the impression that the majority still did. Some people seem to think a large section of people have flip flopped and are now against age verification and yet I've only seen a very small number of posts that actually state that position on the issue.

Hopefully not neceassarily the same people complaining. Those urging stronger verification had to know it would involve supplying more information than they had previously - and that woudl involve information needed to idetify Identity.

I though have to agree with the OP. As a roleplayer in Guild Wars among other venues including play by post, and as one of my guilds leaders, we have chosen to set our limit for sexually suggestive roleplay at 16, as many of our 16 year old members handle such content with the utmosts maturity. As a group we do not condone cybering, sexually suggestive content simply mean public displays of affection, and the occational suggestive comment.

Really in the end I am not totaly against the varification as long as its not intrucive to sensitive information that only government, law and customs agencies should have access to. As have been stated in several posts in other topics most if not all porn and adult sites only require first and last name, date of birth and valid credit card information, I am game to providing that. In the end its not LL's job to police under-aged individual actions, it's the parents, and we should not be inconvenianced more than the average porn or adult site visiter just to have access to more mature areas.

What can "LL can't win can they?" mean when:

* There are more people signing up for SL than ever before;
* There are more Premium signups now than when First Land was available and stipends were L$500/month
* There is a constant demand for more sims to be released, more L$ to be sold
* For the first time, LL recently became a profitable company

If anybody isn't winning, I'd say it's the people who think they can micromanage LL via these forums, or those who are unwilling or unable to adapt to LL's changes, lol.