So called "designers" rags

It's bad enough there aren't many clothes for men in sl. Therefore, it would be nice if many of the so called "designers" in sl made better fitting clothes for men.

Like (tops) shirts, jackets, t-shirts that went down pass the belly button. For females it's ok to bare their belly but not for men. They also love making pants that are more hip huggers then anything else. Low wearing pants are more and more common as are the ill fitting tops. Come on now, if you're going to make clothes then make them right or not at all.

I purchased a jacket that was very short. It looked like it was intended to go inside the pants so naturally it was short. Everyone knows Jackets don't go inside the pants but some genius "designer" made it anyway.

And don't even mention the shoes. Shoes so big, 3 sets of feet fit inside one shoe alone. Not to mention most are ugly and the selection is next to zilch no matter where you go for them.

Many of these clothes makers want to be called "designers" yet they don't know the first thing about how to make proper fitting clothes.

um... I'm sorry?

I dunno how to explain what made you brought the jacket in the first place.

That was a bad suggestion since that kind of error is in the eyes of the designer and user.

How exactly is this a feature suggestion? If you want better men's clothing, go out and look more, or make your own! If the situation is as bad as you say it is then you'll make loads of money if you can fill the gaps.

The shirt mesh only goes down so far, the designers can't just make the shirts be longer without doing sneaky tricks involving other parts of the clothing textures, like making a shirt and pants set where the shirt bottom is painted on the top part of the pants, or the shirt bottom might be able to fit on the skirt mesh.

As for prims shoes that are oversized, I think in most cases the ones that are grossly oversized aren't "badly designed realistic shoes", they are cartoonishly big on purpose, sort of a joke, for fun. Ones that are just a bit too big might be trying to avoid have parts of the foot or leg stick out in different poses.

So, to make a feature suggestion out of this, how about adding a mesh for shirt bottoms, and why not a mesh for shoes as well, one that is outside our feet, the modification of which doesn't make our feet deform, and which has heel and platform sliders that don't need invisprims to look right.

It's obvious guys who don't see nothing wrong with these type clothes are some of the ones who always wear the same clothes, day in and day out. So, this wouldn't concern them nor would they understand the gripe or the suggestion to make these clothes better.
It's so easy to dismiss any complaints or suggestions when you don't change your clothes and every single day you wear the same exact thing. Ewwwww!!!!! SL a mirror of rl?

There are many clothes makers who include 2 shirts in a package. A long and a short one.
Then that means these people are making tricks in order to do this? I don't think so. I think these people just are better at what they do and care more about the threads they put out for sell. Unfortunately, that everyone is the same.

Plus like I already stated, Jackets and certain type clothing (tops) are not meant to be short, above the belly button. As for pants, what guy wants to walk around with very low hip hugger pants?

As for the big "clown" looking shoes being made on purpose. Are you serious? These shoes are not meant to be made like this. Many of these shoes are for meant for formal wear as well as casual.

As for the first response, I got the jacket as I couldn't tell the length being the person in the ad was in a sitting position and there was no way to show how long it ws.

Judging from a response here, one would think most clothes makers are just plain lazy then. That they just make anything, not caring what or how it's made.

And Haravikk, if you have nothing constructive to add then don't waste your time adding stupid comments. The kiddie section is long gone.

My comment is perfectly serious, if you think the situation is so dire then you are perfectly free to make your own clothing line, if there are like-minded individuals out there then you could stand to make a lot of money from a successful, well-fitting clothing line.
I mean, you've posted this in feature suggestions, but all it seems to be is you complaining about other people's work. That's fine if there's a genuine problem and your opinion is your own, but this forum is supposed to be about suggesting new features for second life. This isn't a forum for discussing people's work, or the community of clothing designers as a whole. SuezanneC's idea of a longer shirt mesh is a valid idea though, but as you seem to say that's not the problem:




Part of the fun of SL is that pretty much anything goes, clothing designers aren't constrained in what they design, and people aren't restricted in what they wear, if that's what they want to wear then that's what they are welcome to wear. My av (female) wears a pair of assless camo chaps (okay because I'm a fur), a corset and fishnet gloves. A combination that I doubt many people would try in real life, but it's fun, and I like how it looks. It's my most common out of a range of outfits I like to wear.
You're not forced to buy 'high' shirts or low trousers, nor is anyone else. If anything what you seem to be suggesting is that there be some kind of nazi state control of clothing that forces people to wear some kind of standard uniform. Just because an item of clothing does not conform to your idea of a perfect piece of clothing, does not mean a designer is "lazy" or put any less effort into their work than someone who packages different length tops.

Carlos, this forum is here so people can request that new features are added by Linden Labs, to the basic system that drives Second Life. But the clothes you're talking about aren't "features" created by Linden Labs, they're items created by users in world. The only person who can do anything about their quality is the designers in question. Have you tried IMing them to ask for a modified version of the outfits? I've found that most designers are very helpful about that.

Now it could be reasonable to ask Linden Labs to add a feature to make prim clothes able to read and fit to avatar settings which would be very useful. (The same problems happen to everyone by the way. For girls it's the other way around, unless you have the smallest possible feet in SL, many shoes won't fit at all.)

I don't think it matters what forums you use. People post in the wrong forums all the time, big deal. I don't think it's important where you post as long as you get your message across.

Nonetheless, I agree with the op. Not only are there not enough clothes for men but many of them are badly made. I've also gotten these navel baring shirts as well as the huge shoes so this isn't anything new. This is very common in sl.

And yes, there are many lazy designers, as they like to be called, again, so what? Nothing new here either.
Making clothes is something you don't use do. You need time and thats something we don't all have. So naturally people will complain, regardless.

um feature?

If it is not possible to make undershirts that go down below the belly button, then this is a feature that requires linden labs to implement it.

I just lift my home-made underwear (colored to match my shirt) to 'wedgie' height. Crude, but it works.

I agree that shirt length and 'adjustment' is a problem.