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"Right size" or "Side size"

Garoad Kuroda
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04-02-2004 03:48
Isn't it possible to make a function like the "top size" modeling function which changes the the size of the side of a prim, etc.? Or does that not make any sense?
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Siobhan Taylor
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04-02-2004 04:15
Since llGetScale() returns a vector, and llSetScale() accepts one... then surely you can do something like...

size = llGetScale();
size.x = new_x_size;
size.y = new_y_size;
llSetScale(size);

and I'm sure some expert will come up with a better way... :)

edit: or were you refering to the top-size shrinking thing... ?

edit2: in which case, see llSetPrimitiveParams() which covers it... plus hollow, shear etc...


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Garoad Kuroda
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04-02-2004 05:08
Oh no, sorry, shouldn't have used the word "function".

This is purely a modeling feature, non-LSL related.

I'm trying to figure out if it makes sense to have a "right or left/front or back" resize method, simliar to the "top size" parameter in the edit window. (HMM, and there's space in the interface right below too! :D )

I've been trying forever to create a certain shape but it seems impossible with the current tool set.

Either that or I'm just geometrically stupid. :p
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Siobhan Taylor
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04-02-2004 06:19
Oh, I see... what shape are you trying to make?
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Moleculor Satyr
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04-02-2004 13:29
Rotate the prim so that the 'top' is the right side or whatever.
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Catherine Omega
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04-02-2004 13:50
I'm pretty sure I know which shape you're trying to make. You have to use two boxes to do it. Stupid, I know, but that's the way things are.
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Garoad Kuroda
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04-03-2004 02:51
Rotating the top so it becomes the side or front does work--BUT the problem with that method is that I also want the top resized. :mad: So then I'm faced with the same problem in reverse.

I might just be missing something obvious (although I've tried using more than one prim to do something like this but failed every time, even tried using the "shear" parameter). Granted I was kinda tired but I think I had some of my sanity left at the time. (Not anymore though)

I can't describe this stupid shape in words. Maybe it's like that Star Trek Borg virus-shape they invented that can't exist in reality. lol (Or second reality in this case?)

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/innerlogic/shape.jpg

(I know the front view shows that I didn't make it symmetrical even though it's supposed to be...the top view demonstrates it best anyway.)

(Also see how the right view is symmetrical, but I'd also like to be able to make the two angles in that view different.)

It's easy enough to use the top size parameters to get a shape with a smaller top than bottom, but the effect I'm looking for also should be wider towards the "back" at the same time.

Is this shape impossible or am I just being dense? If I'm not being dense, then SL could benefit from a "Right resize" and a "Front resize" as well as the current "Top resize". I imagine it'd be easy to implement...
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Christopher Omega
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Join date: 28 Mar 2003
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04-03-2004 03:19
You could try playing with the hidden cube advanced cut parameter in the edit window.

Ive used it to create rather odd prims to make certain script functions perform differently.

Its sort of like advanced cut on a cube. The way you imput values are:

1. Open the edit window on your object.
2. Click Object tab.
3. Click so your cursor is inside the Top Shear Y parameter.
4. Press Tab once.

You are now in the edit field for the Advanced Cut B. This field accepts a value from 0 to AdvCut E - 0.2 I think, and is set to 0 by default.

Tab once again and you will be in the edit field for Advanced Cut E. This field accepts a value from AdvCut E + 0.2 to 1. It is set to 1 by default.

Tab once again, and you should be in selection area for position X.

Hope this helps!

==Chris
Garoad Kuroda
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04-03-2004 11:17
Forgot you could do that, definitely worth a try. But even if it does work my idea would still be easier. :D
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Jake Cellardoor
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04-03-2004 12:11
Is this close to what you're looking for?
Jake Cellardoor
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04-03-2004 12:16
(Repeated attempts to attach a .BMP here have failed. I'll try dropping a prim on your profile in-game.)
Garoad Kuroda
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04-03-2004 19:43
lol, got it...help is appreciated!

And that is what I'm looking for, at least I know it's possible now. I consider myself a halfway decent 3D modeler (for a non-pro) but I think only an expert SL-builder could figure that one out.

("Right size" and "Top size" still stand as feature suggestions. :D )
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Garoad Kuroda
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04-03-2004 19:49
Especially since, while it's possible to alter those two front/back angles (the two angled lines in the right view of my screenshot) using top shear, the precision of doing so is very very bad since we only have two decimal places to work with. :mad:
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Garoad Kuroda
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04-07-2004 08:26
What the heck, I could have sworn I put another post here. (Probably ended up in the wrong thread.. :rolleyes: )

Anyway here's the thing:

Whoops, actually it looks like Jake's prim STILL isn't what I need. My fault entirely--the screenshot I posted was messed up, the right side should have showed that the TOP is also sloped. IOW the top should have been shaped like a "mild" ramp. :mad: (Left side lower than right side in right view.)

I don't think THAT shape can exist in SL, given the level of complexity Jake had to use to get the one he did. Especially since the bottom needs to be flat.

I think "right size", "front size", "right shear", and "front shear" would enable this without making the object insanely complex. (Although there might need to be more decimal precision.)
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Hiro Yamamoto
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04-08-2004 13:10
sent you something pretty close
Garoad Kuroda
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04-09-2004 12:59
Still off :(

I need to redo that screenshot later so it's exactly what I need, it's just too hard to visualize being described by words.
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!