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A couple of ideas for the interested

Charlie Omega
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12-21-2002 13:38
I've already mentioned this in world, but I have an idea for an in world clock/linden timezone. I have no idea how this would be implemented but just an idea. Then we could have a client side digital clock on the heads up display that can be customized. (color, size, analog vs digital, and maybe as a extra window so it can be moved around on the user's screen.)


Next idea. I have participated in and seen discussions on the common topic of makeing windows and being able to "cut" holes in objects in ways other then the cut and hollow options.

Here is my idea with it, and we'll see where it goes from here......

Take for example you have a solid wall and you want several windows in various places(flat or cylinder wall) or you just want some wierd and wild shaped windows. Currently this is impossable without useing a ton of objects costing various large amounts for such a simple thing.

Now how about something changed in the code to allow a solid wall to be penetrated by an object with the clear texture where you can see through the wall through the clear object? Right now if u do this you still have a solid wal with a clear object just stuck in it.

Ideas? Is this possable?

And lastly.....how about an imbedded signature in scripts so that no matter who edits changes or otherwise butchers an original script the creator is still able to take credit for the core of the original script, then beyond that maybe adding signatures for people who edit the script but with the creator still listed as the creator of it.

(this thought of by a script butcherer) lol myself :D :D :D

I just think credit needs to be where credit is due, I don't want to be mistaken for being "original" when all I did was redesign or modified someone else's creativity. I can tho take credit for what I did to it but not the original purpose of it.
Shebang Sunshine
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12-21-2002 14:39
Hmmm hmmm hmmmm....

Ok, disclaimer -- I'm not an LL scripter -yet-

I do code in perl, so I can call myself a 1st life scripter, so my thinking is coming from that angle.

I could well be wrong, and I hope I am... but I simply don't see how it would be possible to have an unerasable signature embedded into the script. Even if there is a way to do it, what's to stop someone from simply copying and pasting each line of coding, one by one, from the original script to a new script?

Have you ever tried to make html coding non-viewable, so therefore non-copyable? Impossible...

I'm not saying I don't like your idea, because I do -- I just can't wrap my head around a way to make it work.

One possibility might be a control in the script window for "*viewable* only by creator" -- then even if the creator gives or sells that script to someone else, the original creator is still the only person who can view, and therefore modify, that script.

This would benefit the original scripters in that they could charge for modifications to their scripts (I know they already can, but....). This might also give those who haven't tried scripting yet a little push to try it so as to save money.

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Charlie Omega
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12-21-2002 14:47
Yea I see your point, now that you put it that way I can't see a way in that respect to have a reliable signature system. Dang it!! lol any ideas from other scriptors/coders/Lindens?
Ryden Baysklef
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12-21-2002 15:41
From my experience with MOO scripting, the nicest feature that would allow scripters to retain ownership of the code, is to allow scripts to be made publicly referenceable. This would allow writers to make utility objects that could be documented, and used by other scripts instead of having to invent the wheel all over again.
Pat Murphy
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12-21-2002 16:12
Yeah, I would like to be able to copyright (in effect, not let other people see) my code. I plan on making a bunch of scripted objects, and selling them, and if people can just cut and paste my script onto their own object, that kind of kills the profitability. But I haven't really played around with it, so is this possible already?

And note, I don't think this would inhibit the spirit of educating newbies. Both myself and others make a lot of scripts that aren't for profit, which we have been, and will be posting in the scripting forum.

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BuhBuhCuh Fairchild
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12-22-2002 07:58
You CAN "copy-protect your script. when you sell an object, just turn off copy. people will be able to see your scripts name, but they shouldn't be able to edit it.
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Shebang Sunshine
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good to know, but...
12-22-2002 08:48
But what if you're just selling the script? That's why I thought a toggle inside the scripting window might be a nice addition.

Please note I said *might be* =) Since I'm only at the point of modifying the script examples in the reference, nothing I personally have (scripted myself) deserves copyright.... although thinking a bit further, some of it is so embarassing that some privacy, even now, might be a welcome thing =)


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BuhBuhCuh Fairchild
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12-22-2002 15:23
There is a inworld clock, you can get it with llGetTimeOfDay in a script. I used it to create a wristwatch accsesorie that is for sale in the av center. go buy it if you want an example.

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Shebang Sunshine
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buy it? *buy* it?!?
12-22-2002 18:08
But.. but... why should I buy when it I can flutter my eyelashes at you and... ummm.. doh! Guess that's not gonna work any more, huh?

LOL

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Hile Protagonist
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12-23-2002 14:23
Why not have a "compiler" compile the script along with a digital signature of the owner. Scripts could then be bought/sold/traded w/o giving away any Intellectual Property.

This opens up the possibility of script worms/trojans/viruses since the "code" will no longer be evident for peer review.

Integrated digital signature should aliviate this to some degree as the author's account standing could be "held hostage" so to speak to disuade one from creating a script form of a SL Ebola virus :eek: