SVC-246 Prevent 16m2 Advert Parcels by making 256m2 minimum requirement per sim
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Chaley May
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05-30-2007 08:08
From: someone My idea is that parcel ownership should have a strict lower limit of something like 256sqm land per sim. This means that to buy a parcel of land as small as 16sqm then you would have to allready own at least 256sqm inside that sim.
This is to limit the spread of adverts that are ruining peoples lands when they appear nearby. People who invest in land for places to live are spending a lot of money and seeing their land values dive when adverts appear around their homes so this will make land a much safer investment. This wont stop advertisements but would see them having to invest more in individual sims where they would have more prims available to use and would be able to create much more effective advertising platforms. I can also imagine that advertisers would approach land owners to be able to rent some advertising space which I am sure will benefit both sides.
To do this would be simple.. You would need to add another check on parcel purchase that the person will be owning more than the lower limit of land. There also needs to be a check that either all the owners land is being sold in 1 parcel or they would need to have the lower limit (256sqm) not for sale. This would prevent people buying 512sqm cutting 16sqm for personal use than placing 496sqm for sale.
The future of the internet is Web 2.0 and I know SL is something like it will be in future. Advertising is a big issue on the internet.. its everywhere but imagine websites where other people could just buy a space on your webpage and advertise while people are browsing your website. This is like what is happening on SL. The revenue generated from advertising should be going to those who own the website/region/parcels and create the content there. If you like this feature request please vote for it on the Jira. There is a bug with logins to Jira at the moment so please follow these steps to vote and show your support. STEP 1: Go to: https://jira.secondlife.com/secure/Dashboard.jspa and in the upper right corner log in using your second life name and password. STEP 2: Now go to: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-246 and in the lower left corner click on "vote for it". STEP 3: Now in the new page that pops up in the field labelled "View Voters" click the blue letters "Add" your vote to this issue. Thats it, thank you very much for taking the time to vote. We really appreciate your support! |
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Draco18s Majestic
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05-30-2007 13:03
The problem is that there are valid uses to 16 square meters of land.
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Darien Caldwell
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05-30-2007 13:06
Oh boy, here we go again.... This has been debated to death like a thousand times already. 16m is here to stay. The last fun thread, where all the relevant viewpoints are expressed: /13/67/181447/1.html*moves on to something more relevant and interesting* |
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Chaley May
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05-31-2007 09:37
From: Draco18s Majestic The problem is that there are valid uses to 16 square meters of land. I dont think there are any valid uses for 16sqm of land that couldnt be done through renting space or even asking people nicely if they can use a prim. Both options encourage good community relations and will be benefit everyone involved. There will still be 16sqm parcels too and some will even be for sale with the only limit being who can purchase them as they must allready own more land in that sim. From: Darien Caldwell Oh boy, here we go again.... This has been debated to death like a thousand times already. 16m is here to stay. The last fun thread, where all the relevant viewpoints are expressed: /13/67/181447/1.html*moves on to something more relevant and interesting* Sorry but this isnt really a debate. This is a post to point out my new Jira proposal but since the system is new and traditionally we point out our proposals on the forum, I have posted my own. I know the issue has been debated a lot but there is no reason to give in because of it. I do think the previous suggestions were a lot more restrictive than my own because mine dont limit parcel sizes and I am approaching this as an issue of community relations which is really suffering at the moment because of 16sqm Ad-farms. |
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Draco18s Majestic
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05-31-2007 11:20
Use of a 16m plot:
Landing point for an access controlled area.
64m (8x8 plot) makes for a decently sized, but low prim vendor stall. Allows you to own many small parcels over the grid and be able to own your 512m but not all in one chunk.
Media feeds. If you make a bajillion 16m plots and put a row of TVs on each, you can stream 14 different people 14 different movies--think: Guided Museum Tour.
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Chaley May
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05-31-2007 13:57
From: Draco18s Majestic Use of a 16m plot:
Landing point for an access controlled area.
64m (8x8 plot) makes for a decently sized, but low prim vendor stall. Allows you to own many small parcels over the grid and be able to own your 512m but not all in one chunk.
Media feeds. If you make a bajillion 16m plots and put a row of TVs on each, you can stream 14 different people 14 different movies--think: Guided Museum Tour. Im not sure you understood that parcel size wouldnt be restricted with this suggestion. You can have your access controlled areas and 16m parcels its not parcel size thats the problem. The one that applies is the prim vendor stall which really is a valid reason for a person to want smaller amounts of land but can still be solved by renting 14 prims from someone that lives in the area. They can manage the area too and prevent obstructions.  |
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Haravikk Mistral
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06-01-2007 03:18
From: Chaley May Im not sure you understood that parcel size wouldnt be restricted with this suggestion. You can have your access controlled areas and 16m parcels its not parcel size thats the problem. I don't think it's very clear then as I thought the same as Draco18s. Even so, if 256m was the minimum PER SIM, how then do I buy a 16 or 64m plot for setting up a vendor in a sim which sells space that way? ie a mall has 20 16m plots, and I wish to buy one, I wouldn't be able to! I agree that advertising and the crap that is generally associated with such parcels is horrible, but I'm not sure this is the solution we need.
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Alderic LeShelle
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06-01-2007 03:33
On the other hand you can rent out prim quotas on a 256 m² parcel for ad farming, so it works both ways and raising the minimum size of a parcel wouldn't help.
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Esch Snoats
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06-02-2007 22:00
As much as I REALLY hate floating ads and other useless crap with 16m parcels, even if you ban everything under 256m, all that does is cause the same people who seem to think that destroying the landscape with their crap is ok will just have a bigger parcel of land to put even more floating ads and slot machines and other eye sores in everyones way. Unfortunately there's no real way to prevent these people from doing this kind of garbage that everyone hates.
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Haravikk Mistral
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06-03-2007 02:00
Maybe we can just report it as "broadly offensive"
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