Second Life Forums Archive - Control D Offsets (Duplicate Offsets)

SuezanneC Baskerville

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04-12-2005 05:47

Pressing Control D duplicates an object at some offset in the x and y directions.

Wouldn't it be just peachy keen if we could determine the values of those offsets, and toss in the z axis as well, while we're being rational.

The we could make walls by setting the offsets, selecting a wall section and pressing Ctrl D till our fingers wore out, or till the wall was as long as we wanted, why the heck not?

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TheresNo Hope

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A Wonderful Idea

04-12-2005 10:37

This would be such an easy way to make building easier. Most likely no one realizes just how much benefit this would yield because no one uses Control D the way it is now.

McWheelie Baldwin

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04-12-2005 11:13

Great suggestion!

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Chosen Few

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04-12-2005 11:30

Great suggestion. I've been wanting this feature since day 1, but I never posted it. I'm glad someone finally did (not sure why I didn't). What you are suggesting is the way duplicate works in most other 3D programs. In Maya for example, there's an otions box to set the values for tranlate (move distance), rotate, scale, and number of times to repeat the duplication. Once you set those, then every time you hit duplicate, the duplicated objects rez already where you want them, already the right size, at the right angle, etc.

I agree with you that the unchangeable ofsset now in place (.05 on X & Y) is pretty silly. The function will only become practical if and when we are able to control the offset (rotation, scale, and repeat would be nice too).

That having been said though, I'd much rather the current bugs be fixed before any Linden attention is given to improving ctrl-D. SL is perfectly usable whether ctrl-D is in play or not (shift drag works easily enough), but it is not perfectly usable when my camera all of a sudden warps 10 meters away and faces the other direction simply because I moved an object I was looking at closely. Neither is it perfectly usable when my display now freezes 2 or 3 times a day just like it used to do over a year ago (thought that went out with like 1.3 but now it's back). I'll take or leave ctrl-D gladly, along with a gazillion other features if these annoyances can be dealt with. Okay, enough venting for now.

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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Two years and still waiting.

05-05-2007 23:51

It's been a bit over two years since I made this feature suggestion, and I am still wanting it.

I have a Jira proposal for this now.

I have added the Z axis in to the Jira proposal.

The Jira proposal (New Feature Issue, in jiraspeak) is at https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-677 .

I think most folks find its good to login to jiro first, then click on a link like the one above.

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Ed Gobo

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05-06-2007 03:03

I see two approaches to this.

Firstly, really need to think a little bigger about this and none of this would matter if we had a reliable cheap off line object editing facility with import/export facilities. Maybe Blender or similar program.

Alternatively, if we want to persist with the current system, enthuse the open source viewer developing community to take this up.

SuezanneC Baskerville

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05-06-2007 06:34

There've been numerous suggestions regarding importing meshes and offline build editors. Those who support such ideas would be better served to find one of those threads and support those ideas there, or find a new feature issue at jira.secondlife.com and vote for it, or log in to jira and create a new feature issue of their own, rather than to make comments in a thread on an unrelated idea such as this one this thread is about.

This thread has a suggestion which could add considerable value for builders while being relatively easy to implement by the programmer.

If user selectable offsets for Control D copying is indeed something that can done solely on the viewer side of things, this idea might be good one for an open source developer to explore and perhaps submit as a patch.

Once again, to vote for this idea in jira, just log in to jira at jira.secondlife.com and then take this link: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-677 .

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Haravikk Mistral

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05-06-2007 10:16

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I'd like this too. As Chosen Few notes in the thread, Maya has things like rotate as well.

This could be implemented as simply as adding an extra tab/button to the edit window for a duplicate tool where you can enter the offset and rotation to apply to the copy created and sticking a big "Duplicate" button on it to duplicate the current selection, highlighting on the same page that you can use Ctrl-D as a shortcut. I didn't even know we could USE control-D (or command-D in my case) to do this!

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Control D Offsets (Duplicate Offsets)
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	04-12-2005 05:47 Pressing Control D duplicates an object at some offset in the x and y directions. Wouldn't it be just peachy keen if we could determine the values of those offsets, and toss in the z axis as well, while we're being rational. The we could make walls by setting the offsets, selecting a wall section and pressing Ctrl D till our fingers wore out, or till the wall was as long as we wanted, why the heck not? _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
TheresNo Hope Registered User Join date: 9 Dec 2004 Posts: 33	A Wonderful Idea 04-12-2005 10:37 This would be such an easy way to make building easier. Most likely no one realizes just how much benefit this would yield because no one uses Control D the way it is now.
McWheelie Baldwin Registered User Join date: 9 Apr 2004 Posts: 154	04-12-2005 11:13 Great suggestion! _____________________
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	04-12-2005 11:30 Great suggestion. I've been wanting this feature since day 1, but I never posted it. I'm glad someone finally did (not sure why I didn't). What you are suggesting is the way duplicate works in most other 3D programs. In Maya for example, there's an otions box to set the values for tranlate (move distance), rotate, scale, and number of times to repeat the duplication. Once you set those, then every time you hit duplicate, the duplicated objects rez already where you want them, already the right size, at the right angle, etc. I agree with you that the unchangeable ofsset now in place (.05 on X & Y) is pretty silly. The function will only become practical if and when we are able to control the offset (rotation, scale, and repeat would be nice too). That having been said though, I'd much rather the current bugs be fixed before any Linden attention is given to improving ctrl-D. SL is perfectly usable whether ctrl-D is in play or not (shift drag works easily enough), but it is not perfectly usable when my camera all of a sudden warps 10 meters away and faces the other direction simply because I moved an object I was looking at closely. Neither is it perfectly usable when my display now freezes 2 or 3 times a day just like it used to do over a year ago (thought that went out with like 1.3 but now it's back). I'll take or leave ctrl-D gladly, along with a gazillion other features if these annoyances can be dealt with. Okay, enough venting for now. _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	Two years and still waiting. 05-05-2007 23:51 It's been a bit over two years since I made this feature suggestion, and I am still wanting it. I have a Jira proposal for this now. I have added the Z axis in to the Jira proposal. The Jira proposal (New Feature Issue, in jiraspeak) is at https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-677 . I think most folks find its good to login to jiro first, then click on a link like the one above. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Ed Gobo ed44's alt Join date: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 220	05-06-2007 03:03 I see two approaches to this. Firstly, really need to think a little bigger about this and none of this would matter if we had a reliable cheap off line object editing facility with import/export facilities. Maybe Blender or similar program. Alternatively, if we want to persist with the current system, enthuse the open source viewer developing community to take this up.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	05-06-2007 06:34 There've been numerous suggestions regarding importing meshes and offline build editors. Those who support such ideas would be better served to find one of those threads and support those ideas there, or find a new feature issue at jira.secondlife.com and vote for it, or log in to jira and create a new feature issue of their own, rather than to make comments in a thread on an unrelated idea such as this one this thread is about. This thread has a suggestion which could add considerable value for builders while being relatively easy to implement by the programmer. If user selectable offsets for Control D copying is indeed something that can done solely on the viewer side of things, this idea might be good one for an open source developer to explore and perhaps submit as a patch. Once again, to vote for this idea in jira, just log in to jira at jira.secondlife.com and then take this link: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-677 . _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Haravikk Mistral Registered User Join date: 8 Oct 2005 Posts: 2,482	05-06-2007 10:16 Posted this comment: From: I I'd like this too. As Chosen Few notes in the thread, Maya has things like rotate as well. This could be implemented as simply as adding an extra tab/button to the edit window for a duplicate tool where you can enter the offset and rotation to apply to the copy created and sticking a big "Duplicate" button on it to duplicate the current selection, highlighting on the same page that you can use Ctrl-D as a shortcut. I didn't even know we could USE control-D (or command-D in my case) to do this! _____________________ Computer (Mac Pro): 2 x Quad Core 3.2ghz Xeon 10gb DDR2 800mhz FB-DIMMS 4 x 750gb, 32mb cache hard-drives (RAID-0/striped) NVidia GeForce 8800GT (512mb)

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