ISLAND OWNERS:ability to ban Via Hash / IP

Please give us the ability to IP address / hardware hash ban.

Not a good idea ... most of us do NOT have fixed IP addresses so to be effective you would wind up banning an entire IPSs users ... quite silly really.

Regards,
Allan Saltwater

maybe?

Windows XP lets you change your reported MAC address. I've done it on numberous occations.
(One of those broke my intarwebz because the wireless network my school uses is both WEP encrypted and set to block access from any non-registered MAC addresses).

the MAC address is a local address and thus doesn't leave the local network (i.e. the users home network).

Ummm....no....

In computer networking a Media Access Control address (MAC address) or hardware address or adapter address is a quasi-unique identifier attached to most network adapters (NICs). It is a number that acts like a name for a particular network adapter, so, for example, the network cards (or built-in network adapters) in two different computers will have different names, or MAC addresses, as would an Ethernet adapter and a wireless adapter in the same computer, and as would multiple network cards in a router. However, it is possible to change the MAC address on most of today's hardware.

Lets look at that last line again.

However, it is possible to change the MAC address on most of today's hardware.

i'm sorry, i must have missed the part were you contradicted what i said.

MAC addresses aren't local. If you request the MAC address of a machine you'll get it, the only thing that makes it local is if they are behind a router, in which case you might get the router's MAC.

If this were to implemented anywhere close to useful you'd have the server/sim request the MAC address via the client.

guess how many routers there are between you and the sim.



and the client would never lie would it?

you seem to be misunderstanding what i'm saying, when you machine sends a packet out it has your ip address in it as well as the ip address of the destination, this is how the sim gets your address. your MAC address on the other hand is only in the header of the ethernet packets you send out on your local net, the first router they pass through strips them off ( really it pulls the ip datagram out of the ethernet frame ). so the only way the sim could get it is from the client, which can lie, and the client gets it from the OS, which can lie (i.e. user changes it). it's a waste of time to try and use some "hardware hash" because the only place you can get it from is the client which you can't trust.

Then can we agree that it's pointless?

After all, that WAS the point of my first reply.

well thats where you think outside of the box.... in most cases only one person uses a single SL program on a computer.... in some cases a brother or sister or friends may use it too but in most cases only one user per computer.....

since you cant really ban an ip since they change and you can spoof and the mac thing is outa the question...

LL could make a key for the program based off of the USER's computer's hardware serial number.... and then you could have an option to either ban user or if it gets bad enough you could click the ban hardware key option....

now if timmy's sister gets pissed cause she cant go to barbie land then she can beat up her brother for it... but other than that i think its a vey good idea

Not possible. Even if you bought a branded PC with a serial number for the whole, it wouldn't be possible to get that through an API call - only the serial numbers of individual components (hard disk, cpu, etc.).

SL does (or at least used to) generate a hardware hash based on unique IDs of various components in your machine, so to reiterate the OP:

"Please give us the ability to IP address / HARDWARE HASH ban."

Note the block caps. Banning by IPs and MACS - yes, ludicrous. Banning by a hardware hash that doesn't even have to be revealed to the island owner? Nice idea. It would prevent griefers instantly relogging as alts to continue their campaigns. Sure they could switch to a different computer (different hardware hash) but few people have an endless supply of those.

well im not very knowledgeable with computers i am just good with coming up with ideas.... it was worth a shot tho

Banning IP but banning also MAC is pointless in web administrator viewpoint but who know. I know that it is possible for spoofing for a different IP address.