Filibuster Compromise Thoughts

I think it's great that 14 senators thought that maybe the job of the Senate should be to cooperate and compromise to do the People's business. I'm gravely disappointed that there are left and right wingers that have been labeling these people as "traitors".

The United States is about to erupt with anti-political-extremism, and you can bet McCain will be our next President. (Barring health problems)

I thought McCain said he wasn't going to run for president? That would make an awesome election though. McCain vs. Clinton (Hiliary). That would so much more awesome than Kerry vs. Bush. Back to the topic at hand though. Yes it very frustrating that polical extremists are calling their own traitors for coming to a compromise. If the Republicans had succeeded in getting rid of the filibuster and many years down the road the Democrates were back in the majority they would all be crying because liberal judges would be coming in left and right. It seems that alot of people can't see beyond their own noses.

To be realistic the democratic party wont put Hillary as candidate for president. THey have too much of a chance of winning the next election, and a woman candidate would be seen as too risky.

This attitude is wrong, of course, but it exists and Im pretty sure it will affect who becomes the next Democratic Presidential Candidate.

True tho were McCain Interested in running hed get a lot of bipartisan support. making him very tough to beat.

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As far as Filibuster and changes .. the proper time to propose changes to fillibuster rules is at the start of the congressional session in the year. NOT during. Fillibuster is part of the parlematary proceedure/tradition in the Senate and the proper time to make changes is when each session convenes for the year.

It seems a bit pretentious though for a majority too small to over through a filibuster as its going on to threaten to change the rules of filibusters. Thats like not being able to win at Monopoly so you change the rules "BECUASE ITS MY HOUSE, NYAH"

I think this small group of 14 sees that getting rid or changing filibusters under this condition would be a bad precident.

The Senate needs more moderates.

Actually, Hilary Rodham-Clinton may be making a 2008 presidential bid and she currently has the support of Newt Gingrich of all people.

Briana Dawson

There are lots of moderates, but the problem is that there is a lot of money behind wingers.

"bid" being the operative word.

I see her flipping parties and running as VP to McCain, if anything. But I doubt it; she has too much scandal in her past.

Her "riskiness" has nothing to do with her gender, and everything to do with her woefully inadequate experience. Given a choice between McCain and HR Clinton, I'd almost certainly vote McCain. My fear, however, is that the Republicans will run Condoleeza Rice and the Dems will run Bland White Guy #243. In that case, I'm writing in Jon Stewart and praying for Ragnarok.

No, her riskiness does have a lot to do with her gender. And I do not mean whether she could get voted in. I mean that the Democratic Party power brokers would try change any potential outcome that would change the playing field so drasticly.

A woman running for president is an Unkown quantity , hard to predict. High stakes Politics is about reducing varibles so that you can predict what will happen. If the race were not basically guaranteed to be a 50/50 ish contest , this might be different.

I personally think Hallary would be better than some presidents weve had, worse than others.
Condoleeza Rice i could say the same thing about, though of course shes as far right as Hillary is left, maybe more so.

I think it will be a known republican and a known democrat, people always think theres such a limited number of choices, but oddly, every election where newer faces come in, its more like , OHHH YEAAAH i guess we do know them after all.

There will some day be Women as presidents and there will be minorities as presidents and women minorites also.

But im far too jaded to beleive the two main parties are ready to put either up as their candidate of choice.

I predict .. it will be two white men for presidental candidates .. The odds are way for it. Even if Hillary is popular.

..and it's all about Condi in '08-baby! Fuck Clinton-Condi will be the first black (and female) president of the US!! Wewt!

-Kiamat Dusk
It's never too early to start voting Republican

Frame it as sexism if you'd like. She's not qualified.

Wha?? There's a tiny bit of scandal in her past compared to Bush, who is presently the..um..President..

I love Hillary, I have no qualms with her being my senator, but the Dems are nuts if they really want to run her. She's just too polarizing, for tons of reasons. Experience, sexism, that last name of hers....living in upstate NY I still run into TONS of people that simply hate her guts. They can't tell me solid reasons why, but they hate her.


If the Repubs run Condi, then I say pull Barak Obama. Negate the race card, leave it to run on issues and personal charisma. Barak has the latter running out his ears, while Condi comes off as a cold fish that wants to boink her boss. Barak also appeals to the massive moderate voting bloc that has been woefully ignored the last 5 years, and I think they'll come out in droves for someone that makes sense instead of spouting the fringe's philosophies...the same reason that McCain would win with a landslide if he ran.



I am 1000% behind this statement.

Maybe true, and I chalk it up due to less experience on her part compared to Bush, and less media coverage of her. But one difference is that Clinton simply comes off as very political and two-faced, where Bush absolutely does not, and neither did Bill Clinton. Kerry also had this "fakeness" trait...Edwards was even worse. I can't explain it, it's just an initial impression based on how they talk and what they say. It's not a down to earth impression that they give off at all--and I think that hurts alot with elections. Hillary gives off bad vibes, man.

Who was the last president that had a strict, "fakeness", or "political" personality to them? I can't even go back that far. Neither of the Bushes, not Clinton, not Reagan, I really doubt Carter or Kennedy did...maybe Nixon? My memory doesn't go back that far. Presidents just usually seem more...down to earth, in general. IMO

Hillary has already been fully vetted in the public eye and by a Republican Congress. I seriously doubt there is much more they can throw at her.

Her approval rating in NY is through the roof. So much so that Republicans are really looking for a sacraficial lamb at this point to run against her in 2006.

She has earned a stellar reputation in Washington as someone who will bridge the party lines and get things done. She is a truly brilliant politician whether you like her personally of not.

She has partnered with some very key Republicans on isues and again gotten the job done. Maybe she will or won' be President, but she has quietly been building a fantastic bi-partisan resume over the past five years.

Condi has stated flat out that she won't run and I believe her.

Running and winning in a liberal state is very different from running for president and winning. Alot of states are so bad that you could practically put a D or R next to any schmo that looks/sounds half good and they'd win for sure. I'm not impressed by her "popularity". I doubt she'd ever be able to do well in the south and midwest, and that was pretty much enough to smash Kerry's hopes. --They just won't trust/like someone like her in most of those states. She comes off as too high-society at the very least. Now, if the Democrats run a southern or more moderate seeming candidate, they'd have a good chance. IMO again

When was the last time we had a non-southern Democrat in the white house? Quite some time huh?

I don't think anybody is THAT needy. I doubt even Laura is boinking him.

Of course, Condi and Laura could be boinking.

I am now thoroughly disgusted.

George is apparently too busy milking his stallions to be affectionate with his wife...