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SL Holiday Ideas, your thoughts and mine.

Soren Romulus
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11-14-2003 09:27
Hey all I was thinking last night about this because of our shared interest in SL. But why are we soooo concerned about bringing our RL personal Holidays into SL, when isn't it only appropriate that we create new ones that we all can share in? For example, Canada already had their Thanksgiving, but we in the States are getting ready to celebrate this holiday in less then 2 weeks. But what about the others from other countries? Is this fair to them. What about those who don't celebrate Halloween, Christmas, Easter and a numerous amount of other ones that we feel so ease pushing these on others. So here is my thought. Lets rally together and create new SL holidays. Ones that we all can share in and then create our own decorations and have definitely shared ideas and if we get enough people involved, we might just get a few days to enjoy our own originally created holidays.

Hippo day, Live day, new version day?...Just a few. Hey even ownership of our creations day. hehehe..sounds good to me.

So SLifer, let get ideas together and truely create our own SL that we all share, together.

Peace,
Soren
Aliena Serpentine
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Creation of SL relevant Holidays
11-14-2003 10:02
I think this is an outstanding notion. SL (from what I can gather, which if you know me is not a lot! My brain is only about 1 gig), is an experiment in the creation of a new society, one without the fetters of earthly cultures and traditions. So why not create our own traditions, celebrations, holidays, religions (though I am not sure SL religions are necessary as the RL ones tend to cause more problems than they solve). Many of us do not in RL hold the same holidays as those around us. This can cause sticky situations when trying to come together as a group. SL does not have that problem. The world is new and the different cultures within it are still defining themselves. I am all for creating our own holidays or whatever you want to call them, if for no other reason than to have something to look forward to other than stipend day.
Kissmi Kuroda
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11-14-2003 10:19
why get rid of the "fetters of earthly cultures and traditions" and then turn around and make new fetters? and what about those of us who don't feel fettered to begin with? maybe Linden Lab doesn't need to have official company events for different holidays but who would it hurt if they did? if they miss your favorite obscure holiday make it an event and get $500 to celebrate it and tell people about it. if they sponsor your favorite mainstream holiday then make it an event anyway. And make your hippo day too while your at it. but don't act like we have to throw the baby out with the bathwater then go searching for a faucet and an adoption agency.
BuhBuhCuh Fairchild
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11-14-2003 10:57
I propose Lagsday, to celebrate back in the days of alpha when the first pioneers had to fight through unheard-of amounts of lag after killing the wild buffalo that they would use to construct prims, and build cubic homes.

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Soren Romulus
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11-14-2003 11:13
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Originally posted by Kissmi Kuroda
why get rid of the "fetters of earthly cultures and traditions" and then turn around and make new fetters? and what about those of us who don't feel fettered to begin with? maybe Linden Lab doesn't need to have official company events for different holidays but who would it hurt if they did? if they miss your favorite obscure holiday make it an event and get $500 to celebrate it and tell people about it. if they sponsor your favorite mainstream holiday then make it an event anyway. And make your hippo day too while your at it. but don't act like we have to throw the baby out with the bathwater then go searching for a faucet and an adoption agency.


Kissmi, I was trying to figure out what to make of your post but obviously to me there is one thing you do not get about my post. I am not asking Lindens to have official company events or through out our mainstream holidays. If you read my post I am saying why not make these holidays, without the thrust of events being pushed upon us, but look at SL as being not a recreation of our Real world but to make it something of a world that we all can share in. I respect your opinion, but if you don't read your own post then you obviously don't get what I was saying. So go celebrate what ever mainstream holiday (which is actually taken from the mainstream idea of HOLY DAY) and do what you want. But be considerate of those who may not share your ideas and look to something that is a little more or at least hopefully unifying as the world is not made of all like ideas but different ones. I don't want to hold an event to celebrate something. Just wanted some opinions of ideas that would unify as opposed to seperate those in a world who already have enough seperation from those they in some way feel close to all ready.

Peace,
Soren
Wednesday Grimm
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11-14-2003 11:18
Well, Gold Day (the day 1.0 hit) would seem to be an obvious choice for the SL national holiday, as does January 9th, Wednesdayday, my SL birthday.
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Kissmi Kuroda
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11-14-2003 11:35
hi Soren. i'm not trying to be confrontational so don't worry about that if you were worried.
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If you read my post I am saying why not make these holidays, without the thrust of events being pushed upon us, but look at SL as being not a recreation of our Real world but to make it something of a world that we all can share in.

sorry i can't dissect this sentence at all. is there another way to say it?

Linden Lab has already established a policy of offically celebrating real world holidays when they did the special Halloween stuff. i'm guessing that kind of thing will continue. are you proposing they make a point of having official events for any holiday people express an interest in or that there be no official holiday recognition and it's left up to us to do what we want about them? or something else?
Soren Romulus
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11-14-2003 12:20
Not trying to change people opinions about what they can or cannot have in SL.. as for the Halloween stuff, Lindenlabs is as you know based in California. With a company that has it's roots in traditions that we in the states share in with a few other countries, they imposed that on us by popular opinion. Don't get me wrong, I shared in the Halloween thing, had my decorations up and even helped with a burning Halloween display. I am saying again....to clarify, what type of INWORLD Celebrations would you like to see? And if we got enough people to work on these sort of Celebrations, we might just be able to create new ones that we all can share in in SL.

I Celebrate Christmas, but I am not a Christian but did this because my roots in Cherokee celebrations are not as common as most. So what if I said for instance, Everyone who isn't Cherokee to Celebrate a Cherokee Custom. Is that making it room for everyone to do it or is it mainly stroking my beliefs? But in SL new celebrations can be voted on, created and orginized to celebrate things that happened in common with everyone who is apart of second life. Linden Labs tries to make it a point that we create our own environment. There was more popular ideas about Halloween so the organized something for those who enjoy it. But, what about those would would have like something else? What do they do? Who supports them? So to further clairfy as this is just for discussion, not a post to encite major changes or make Linden Labs create anything for us. We make out own ways with as much as they allow us to. If you want or don't want to, that is all right, just give everyone the chance to look at the possiblility of creating a world that doesn't have all the RL hype and ignorace,(even though it will still exist no matter what world is created) but to try and create a more enjoyable atmosphere for all.

Peace,
Soren
Wednesday Grimm
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11-14-2003 12:42
First off, MY SUGGESTIONS WILL NOT BE IGNORED!!!! *chants* Wednesdayday! Wednesdayday! Wednesdayday!

Now that that's out of the way, Soren, I'm have a hard time understanding your troubles. If you want to celebrate Christmas in SL, or Kwanzaa in SL or Arbor Day in SL, what is stopping you? Similarly, if you want to not celebrate Thanksgiving in SL or Halloween in SL, what's forcing you?

Or are you saying that because Linden Labs had a halloween event, that they are offically endorsing the idea of halloween and thus making SL an non-halloweenie-unfriendly place and once again The Man is trying to keep a brother down?

Basically, what's forcing you to celebrate one holiday, and what's stopping you from celebrating another? This isn't snide, I want to know.
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11-14-2003 14:04
I can't wait til wednesdayday eve... party until its wednesdayday day.
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Kissmi Kuroda
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11-14-2003 14:16
sorry Soren i just can't tell what you're proposing or even what you're opposing if anything. it seems like nothing stops you from holding an event (and getting money and support for it) to celebrate whatever you want whether it's Commercial Christmas, Christian Christmas, or Decemberween. as far as events the Lindens put on for holidays i can ony think of 3 points.

1. you can't please everyone.
2. they can do whatever they want since they made, own, and run the world.
3. as far as i can tell no one had halloween imposed on them and could avoid every bit of the celebratingand whatnot.

seems like they can either "sponsor" whatever holidays they arbitrarily decide to and everyone else can just hold regular events or they can sponsor no holidays at all and everyone can hold events to celebrate them. i'm just not seeing a problem either way :)
Devlin Gallant
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11-14-2003 19:29
Well, I, for one plan on decorating for Christmas.
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Siggy Romulus
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11-14-2003 22:02
I plan on putting up a festivus pole....
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Beryl Greenacre
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11-16-2003 11:22
Personally, I hate the Holiday season IRL. I get so sick of lights and music and forced "good cheer" that seems to abound then. (I know, I'm weird.) I also resent the commerciality of it all and see it as a big, hairy hassle designed chiefly to line the pockets of retailers. I have two small children, and I can't avoid Christmas, otherwise I think I'd just ship myself off to Outer Mongolia for a couple weeks in late December, if I had my druthers.

I've always liked the way the Star Trek series (at least the later ones) don't really have "holiday" episodes.

But, hey, to each their own, I think Christmas decorations in SL would look neat, actually... and if somebody scripts a dreidel to spin... I'll definitely buy one.
James Miller
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11-16-2003 11:29
Beryl, great idea! I'm going to try to do it :)
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David Cartier
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Re: SL Holiday Ideas, your thoughts and mine.
11-16-2003 17:21
We could certainly do a Festival of Light in December, since that is a part of all the other seasonal holidays
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Originally posted by Soren Romulus
Hey all I was thinking last night about this because of our shared interest in SL. But why are we soooo concerned about bringing our RL personal Holidays into SL, when isn't it only appropriate that we create new ones that we all can share in? For example, Canada already had their Thanksgiving, but we in the States are getting ready to celebrate this holiday in less then 2 weeks. But what about the others from other countries? Is this fair to them. What about those who don't celebrate Halloween, Christmas, Easter and a numerous amount of other ones that we feel so ease pushing these on others. So here is my thought. Lets rally together and create new SL holidays. Ones that we all can share in and then create our own decorations and have definitely shared ideas and if we get enough people involved, we might just get a few days to enjoy our own originally created holidays.

Hippo day, Live day, new version day?...Just a few. Hey even ownership of our creations day. hehehe..sounds good to me.

So SLifer, let get ideas together and truely create our own SL that we all share, together.

Peace,
Soren
David Cartier
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11-16-2003 17:46
I think that Soren is thinking about NEW celebrations that are more germane to our SL lives than any of the overly commercialized and secularized sales events that we are coming up on. 1.0 Day is a great idea and we certainly wouldn't be the first to celebrate the hippo. The Egyptians once worshipped both the evil hippo god Set as well as the benevolent hippo goddess Haweret
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Originally posted by Kissmi Kuroda
why get rid of the "fetters of earthly cultures and traditions" and then turn around and make new fetters? and what about those of us who don't feel fettered to begin with? maybe Linden Lab doesn't need to have official company events for different holidays but who would it hurt if they did? if they miss your favorite obscure holiday make it an event and get $500 to celebrate it and tell people about it. if they sponsor your favorite mainstream holiday then make it an event anyway. And make your hippo day too while your at it. but don't act like we have to throw the baby out with the bathwater then go searching for a faucet and an adoption agency.