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Arcadia Codesmith

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07-14-2005 08:10

Microsoft Inks Deal for Marvel MMO

Sooo... can an MMO really work on a console? Can Microsoft's occasionally brilliant but often uneven games division deliver? Is Marvel just lashing out after their City of Heroes lawsuit flopped noisily? Is it wrong to want to dress up in spandex and heels and go kick some criminal butt?

What do you think?

Reitsuki Kojima

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07-14-2005 08:12

From: Arcadia Codesmith

Microsoft Inks Deal for Marvel MMO

Sooo... can an MMO really work on a console? Can Microsoft's occasionally brilliant but often uneven games division deliver? Is Marvel just lashing out after their City of Heroes lawsuit flopped noisily? Is it wrong to want to dress up in spandex and heels and go kick some criminal butt?

What do you think?

MMOs work fine on consoles. I've played Everquest Adventures for years, and Phantasy Star Online had a huge following as well.

The City of Heros lawsuit was in preperation for this release, not a lash-out at its failure.

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Arcadia Codesmith

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07-14-2005 08:18

From: Reitsuki Kojima

MMOs work fine on consoles. I've played Everquest Adventures for years, and Phantasy Star Online had a huge following as well.

How do you communicate? I've used some console game interfaces for entering text, and they're about as much fun as having a tooth yanked.

And if you can't communicate, what's the point of doing an MMO over a single-player game?

I'm not disputing what you're saying, but I don't understand why it works as well as it apparently does.

Reitsuki Kojima

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07-14-2005 09:42

From: Arcadia Codesmith

How do you communicate? I've used some console game interfaces for entering text, and they're about as much fun as having a tooth yanked.

And if you can't communicate, what's the point of doing an MMO over a single-player game?

I'm not disputing what you're saying, but I don't understand why it works as well as it apparently does.

Three ways:

1) Voice macros. You can construct communication out of concept fragments with the controller... I haven't played EQ: Adventures since World of Warcraft came out, and I never really used this feature anyways, so I'm rusty, but it's like, need - shaman - for party, cycling through menus.

2) You can enter text with the controller directly, but its slow

3) Keyboards

Any modern game console can accept a keyboard. This is how I did it.

With the X-Box you should be able to use Voice Chat just like any X-Box Live game, too.

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Lupo Clymer

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07-14-2005 10:08

From: Reitsuki Kojima

Three ways:

1) Voice macros. You can construct communication out of concept fragments with the controller... I haven't played EQ: Adventures since World of Warcraft came out, and I never really used this feature anyways, so I'm rusty, but it's like, need - shaman - for party, cycling through menus.

2) You can enter text with the controller directly, but its slow

3) Keyboards

Any modern game console can accept a keyboard. This is how I did it.

With the X-Box you should be able to use Voice Chat just like any X-Box Live game, too.

XBox360 will have the voice chat built in, so you will not have to rely on the game putting it in. So I would see teh V-Cat working to a point. Keybord is what I see being number one till you group with some one. Then V-Chat. Some one in a different thread yelled at me for even saying Xbox360 would have a keybord, afte all Xbox didn't. PS1 didn't but PS2 did. PS1 and XBox didn't have MMOs and PS2 does and Xbox360 will.

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Arcadia Codesmith

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07-14-2005 10:10

I knew that PS2 supported keyboards, but I thought the XBox was still holding out.

Well... darn. I don't want to buy a console just to play one title, but being a superhero in the Marvel universe? Hrmph.

Lupo Clymer

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07-14-2005 10:11

From: Arcadia Codesmith

I knew that PS2 supported keyboards, but I thought the XBox was still holding out.

Well... darn. I don't want to buy a console just to play one title, but being a superhero in the Marvel universe? Hrmph.

Xbox has some kick ass games. I think it would be worth it for xbox360. ((Also if the rumors are true [I will not state is because that was already a argument on SL fourm] then you will have more then xbox games to play))

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Reitsuki Kojima

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07-14-2005 10:12

From: Arcadia Codesmith

I knew that PS2 supported keyboards, but I thought the XBox was still holding out.

Well... darn. I don't want to buy a console just to play one title, but being a superhero in the Marvel universe? Hrmph.

I'm not aware of anyone having *released* one, but it absolutely could support it... X-Box controllers are simply standard USB cables with an added power line for the force feedback, and a funny shaped plug. I modified one to plug into the PC and it recognises as a standard USB periphrial.

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Cybin Monde

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07-14-2005 10:38

i could see the 360 using a keyboard, easily done with the wireless USB ports and all.. but then again, the Xbox team seems to want to shy away from it, instead trying to enforce the Xbox as a hard-core gamer console instead of a PC hybrid.

on the other hand, as mentioned before, there is speculation about cross-compatibility with a PC.. which was mentioned on G4.. yesterday, i think. they were talking about the possibility of being able to port Oblivion mods from the PC to the 360.. no idea if there's any truth to it, but i bet i know someone who DOES have an idea.. *cough*Tiger*cough*

oh.. and here's another article about the Microsoft/Marvel team-up:

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07-14-2005 10:53

From: Cybin Monde

i could see the 360 using a keyboard, easily done with the wireless USB ports and all.. but then again, the Xbox team seems to want to shy away from it, instead trying to enforce the Xbox as a hard-core gamer console instead of a PC hybrid.

on the other hand, as mentioned before, there is speculation about cross-compatibility with a PC.. which was mentioned on G4.. yesterday, i think. they were talking about the possibility of being able to port Oblivion mods from the PC to the 360.. no idea if there's any truth to it, but i bet i know someone who DOES have an idea.. *cough*Tiger*cough*

oh.. and here's another article about the Microsoft/Marvel team-up:

Gameinformer has also talked about it. EBGames and Gamestop have both been selling preorders with the idea of PC/Xbox360 cross over.

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Marvel/Microsoft MMO
Arcadia Codesmith Not a guest Join date: 8 Dec 2004 Posts: 766	07-14-2005 08:10 Microsoft Inks Deal for Marvel MMO Sooo... can an MMO really work on a console? Can Microsoft's occasionally brilliant but often uneven games division deliver? Is Marvel just lashing out after their City of Heroes lawsuit flopped noisily? Is it wrong to want to dress up in spandex and heels and go kick some criminal butt? What do you think?
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	07-14-2005 08:12 From: Arcadia Codesmith Microsoft Inks Deal for Marvel MMO Sooo... can an MMO really work on a console? Can Microsoft's occasionally brilliant but often uneven games division deliver? Is Marvel just lashing out after their City of Heroes lawsuit flopped noisily? Is it wrong to want to dress up in spandex and heels and go kick some criminal butt? What do you think? MMOs work fine on consoles. I've played Everquest Adventures for years, and Phantasy Star Online had a huge following as well. The City of Heros lawsuit was in preperation for this release, not a lash-out at its failure. _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Arcadia Codesmith Not a guest Join date: 8 Dec 2004 Posts: 766	07-14-2005 08:18 From: Reitsuki Kojima MMOs work fine on consoles. I've played Everquest Adventures for years, and Phantasy Star Online had a huge following as well. How do you communicate? I've used some console game interfaces for entering text, and they're about as much fun as having a tooth yanked. And if you can't communicate, what's the point of doing an MMO over a single-player game? I'm not disputing what you're saying, but I don't understand why it works as well as it apparently does.
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	07-14-2005 09:42 From: Arcadia Codesmith How do you communicate? I've used some console game interfaces for entering text, and they're about as much fun as having a tooth yanked. And if you can't communicate, what's the point of doing an MMO over a single-player game? I'm not disputing what you're saying, but I don't understand why it works as well as it apparently does. Three ways: 1) Voice macros. You can construct communication out of concept fragments with the controller... I haven't played EQ: Adventures since World of Warcraft came out, and I never really used this feature anyways, so I'm rusty, but it's like, need - shaman - for party, cycling through menus. 2) You can enter text with the controller directly, but its slow 3) Keyboards Any modern game console can accept a keyboard. This is how I did it. With the X-Box you should be able to use Voice Chat just like any X-Box Live game, too. _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Lupo Clymer The Lost Pagan Join date: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 778	07-14-2005 10:08 From: Reitsuki Kojima Three ways: 1) Voice macros. You can construct communication out of concept fragments with the controller... I haven't played EQ: Adventures since World of Warcraft came out, and I never really used this feature anyways, so I'm rusty, but it's like, need - shaman - for party, cycling through menus. 2) You can enter text with the controller directly, but its slow 3) Keyboards Any modern game console can accept a keyboard. This is how I did it. With the X-Box you should be able to use Voice Chat just like any X-Box Live game, too. XBox360 will have the voice chat built in, so you will not have to rely on the game putting it in. So I would see teh V-Cat working to a point. Keybord is what I see being number one till you group with some one. Then V-Chat. Some one in a different thread yelled at me for even saying Xbox360 would have a keybord, afte all Xbox didn't. PS1 didn't but PS2 did. PS1 and XBox didn't have MMOs and PS2 does and Xbox360 will. _____________________ --------------------------------------- Hate is not a family Value! --------------------------------------- I am a pagan, I vote! Do you? ---------------------------------------
Arcadia Codesmith Not a guest Join date: 8 Dec 2004 Posts: 766	07-14-2005 10:10 I knew that PS2 supported keyboards, but I thought the XBox was still holding out. Well... darn. I don't want to buy a console just to play one title, but being a superhero in the Marvel universe? Hrmph.
Lupo Clymer The Lost Pagan Join date: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 778	07-14-2005 10:11 From: Arcadia Codesmith I knew that PS2 supported keyboards, but I thought the XBox was still holding out. Well... darn. I don't want to buy a console just to play one title, but being a superhero in the Marvel universe? Hrmph. Xbox has some kick ass games. I think it would be worth it for xbox360. ((Also if the rumors are true [I will not state is because that was already a argument on SL fourm] then you will have more then xbox games to play)) _____________________ --------------------------------------- Hate is not a family Value! --------------------------------------- I am a pagan, I vote! Do you? ---------------------------------------
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	07-14-2005 10:12 From: Arcadia Codesmith I knew that PS2 supported keyboards, but I thought the XBox was still holding out. Well... darn. I don't want to buy a console just to play one title, but being a superhero in the Marvel universe? Hrmph. I'm not aware of anyone having released one, but it absolutely could support it... X-Box controllers are simply standard USB cables with an added power line for the force feedback, and a funny shaped plug. I modified one to plug into the PC and it recognises as a standard USB periphrial. _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Cybin Monde Resident Moderator (?) Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,468	hmm.. 07-14-2005 10:38 i could see the 360 using a keyboard, easily done with the wireless USB ports and all.. but then again, the Xbox team seems to want to shy away from it, instead trying to enforce the Xbox as a hard-core gamer console instead of a PC hybrid. on the other hand, as mentioned before, there is speculation about cross-compatibility with a PC.. which was mentioned on G4.. yesterday, i think. they were talking about the possibility of being able to port Oblivion mods from the PC to the 360.. no idea if there's any truth to it, but i bet i know someone who DOES have an idea.. coughTigercough oh.. and here's another article about the Microsoft/Marvel team-up: _____________________ "We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it." - Philip Linden "There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971) SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
Lupo Clymer The Lost Pagan Join date: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 778	07-14-2005 10:53 From: Cybin Monde i could see the 360 using a keyboard, easily done with the wireless USB ports and all.. but then again, the Xbox team seems to want to shy away from it, instead trying to enforce the Xbox as a hard-core gamer console instead of a PC hybrid. on the other hand, as mentioned before, there is speculation about cross-compatibility with a PC.. which was mentioned on G4.. yesterday, i think. they were talking about the possibility of being able to port Oblivion mods from the PC to the 360.. no idea if there's any truth to it, but i bet i know someone who DOES have an idea.. coughTigercough oh.. and here's another article about the Microsoft/Marvel team-up: Gameinformer has also talked about it. EBGames and Gamestop have both been selling preorders with the idea of PC/Xbox360 cross over. _____________________ --------------------------------------- Hate is not a family Value! --------------------------------------- I am a pagan, I vote! Do you? ---------------------------------------

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