Canada's goverment set to fall

Ahh the other shoe just fell. The country WAS saved because a conservative made a political 180 and crossed the floor. Her boyfriend was in party with her but she switched anyways.

But now....

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/06/06/canada.politics.reut/


Pat O'Brien quit today and will bring down our goverment if we allow gay marriage.

Just out of curiosity, what riding does O'Brien represent?

A note to england from the congress of the united states:

Canada is ours. You can't have it back either...(well maybe quebec).

He's from the London-Fanshawe riding. First elected in '93, won 4 elections a liberal. Guess he thinks he'll lose unless he complains about gay marriage...

There was a time, when I was younger, when the suggestion that people should be denied services because of their sexual preference was taboo. Our conservative revolution is well under way. Thanks Belinda. Skank. Homewrecker slut.

Where's it going to stop? I mean, farming has been around a lot longer than marriage or the church. Traditionally, farms are 1 man and 1 woman growing food. Should we stop gays from running farms? Or maybe let them run farms but call them something else?

I work 5 minutes from the hill, and I never see liberals or conservatives walking around the market for lunch. They hide 'cause they can't handle the guilt.

I really don't get why we need separate legislation for this. Gays have been getting married in most provinces for awhile now as a result of court challenges where the judge found that prohibiting same sex marriage is unconstitutional. So in other words, according to the courts it's already legal and anyone refusing to issue marriage liciences to same sex partners is legally at fault. Boom, done. Granted that in some provinces this hasn't gone to court yet but I'm 99% sure that there has been no Supreme court ruling in any province against gay marriage so it would seem that the interpretation of the law is pretty straightforward. It's unfortunant that a few more gay couples in love may have to go to court in some provinces to prove they have the right to marry but if they already have that right according to the constitution then why do we need new legislation? It's not that I resent it or anything, if there's some issue in Federal law that needs clarifying then somebody let me know, it just seems a bit absurd to make new laws to make something that's already legal more legal somehow.

That was really offensive.

I read about it this morning.

And while this american-apologist movement can feel free to take whatever angle they want, I doubt a single defaction from one single liberal from one riding is going to really tip the scales to a downfall.

Personally, I like where things are right now. I think the liberals have had their run in with sloppiness, but the current minority government is doing well to keep them in-check and on the path with an agenda that I hope pleases most people.

Gay marriage is one of those things I would hardly consider a hot-topic and it saddens me that there are people in power who'd deny others happiness on a technicality of their personal beliefs.

Nevertheless, your personal agenda as a politician in today's modern world has far more importance than the hopes, dreams, and futures of the people you represent.

A jest. In keeping with the revocation of american independence. I had thought sucha ridiculous notion would speak for itself. Of course canadians are free to assert why they should rule the world (and in fact do!) and why both the US and Britain Would be most properly governed by Canada (also not exactly a bad Idea.) But then again I am a Canucks fan and none of us are quite stable, because we know the NHL cancelled our year to win the Stanley cup!

If Canada's goverment set to fall does the USA get to clame it??

In the parlementary system a government can "fall" whenever Parlementary rules force a new election prior to the scheduled ones.

Canada will still be Canada and governed if/when the government is brought down.

(Im guessing the posters making the jests may know this, but a lot of people reading this thread may not)


That all said .. its really unfortunate that people are so divided on gay marriage.

Its been the subject for a lot of threads and posts ad naseum. But really .. why is it so hard to understand what freedom is?

(I had read something about that once been a long time left my goverment stuff behind for a LIFE, LOL thanks for reminding me even though I had a idea and thanks for pointing it out to the others )

Oh come on lets pull all our troops home and invade Canada! 9/11, Canada's falt. Iraq? Canada's fault!

Times have changed,
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents,
They just want to fart and curse. Should we blame the government, or blame society, or should we blame the images on tv No!
Blame Canada! Blame Canada

With all their beady little eyes,
their flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
We need to form a full assault, it's Canada's fault! Don't blame me, for my son Stan, He saw the darn cartoon, and now he's off to
join the klan!> And my boy eric once, had my picture on his shelf, but now when I see him, he tells me to fuck myself>

Well, Blame Canada!

It seems that everything's gone wrong since
Canada came along
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada! They're not even a real country anyway. My son could of been a doctor or a lawyer, it's a true, Instead he burned up like a piggie on a barbecue> Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire, or the doctor who allowed him to expire. Heck no!
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
With all their hockey hubaloo and that bitch Anne Murray too. Blame Canada!
Shame on Canada!

The smut we must stop
The trash we must smash
Laughter and fun
must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming us!

This is sooo not going to happen.
And such a troll on the part of CNN to even imply it.

This guy is just begging for a little publicity and the media is obliging as usual.
Fact is the *majority* of people in Canada *support* gay marriage.

It is also a human rights issue.
Even if the conservatives got in and passed legisaltion outlawing it, the courts would overturn it in a heartbeat.

You can't make "illegal laws" unless you want to bring out the troops, and thankfully Canada has only one "troop" per several thousand people.

You don't necessarily need the troops to make an illegal law. All you need is the notwithstanding clause.
Having said that, the SCC decision on same-sex marriage hasn't come out yet, but I'm sure any government (federal or provincial) that dared to use the notwithstanding clause to overturn a decision favourable to same-sex marriage would be absolutely crucified.

Canada has a government??

Yea but they are aliens with mind control powers.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/groupaction/chretien_statement.html

Jean: Eh, it is only 2 million, these aren't the politicians you should be calling thieves.

Canada: Ohh, look at those golf balls from famous people, let's give him an honourary doctorate.

Nah, they'd screw it up just as bad as it already is. It's easier to govern some countries than others, it's a matter of scale and composition. The insane amount of variety in the US (not that Canada doesn't have some of it too) divides the nation often, and especially the sheer size of the US makes it harder to govern IMO. Increasing the scale of most anything makes the level of challenge harder.

Building a boat, not so hard, building an airplane, tough, building a friggin space shuttle...omgomgomg hard. Ok stupid analogy but I got the point across in the other paragraph.

What is most interesting is this big "scandal" came out a couple days after this was reported:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover042205a.htm




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