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Lupo Clymer

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07-13-2005 11:24

French Help

I remember once being told the French have a word for “he/she/it” I don’t know what it is and would like to know if some one can help he out. Came up at lunch my Colleague English Professor wanted us to use Shit for he/she/it.

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elka Lehane

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07-13-2005 11:29

Greetings!

My primary langage is french

There is not ONE word for these. There are many. AND it also depends a lot on what you're going to talk about. Like...

For you, a dog is "it". For us, it's either female or male (she/he).

Very basic would be:

he : il

she: elle

it: doesn't really exist, but if you're pointing at something to show it, for an exemple, you're going to say: cela (or ça, for a more slang version)

If you want to explain me more what is needed to be said, more details etc, then I can help you. I always loooooove to teach french and learn english.
You can either send me private, reply here, or IM me ingame.

Good luck!

elka-da-frenchiepoo

Lupo Clymer

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07-13-2005 11:32

From: elka Lehane

Greetings!

My primary langage is french

There is not ONE word for these. There are many. AND it also depends a lot on what you're going to talk about. Like...

For you, a dog is "it". For us, it's either female or male (she/he).

Very basic would be:

he : il

she: elle

it: doesn't really exist, but if you're pointing at something to show it, for an exemple, you're going to say: cela (or ça, for a more slang version)

If you want to explain me more what is needed to be said, more details etc, then I can help you. I always loooooove to teach french and learn english.
You can either send me private, reply here, or IM me ingame.

Good luck!

elka-da-frenchiepoo

My English professor told us that the French have a word that is a generic pronoun meaning basically he/she/it if you don’t know if what you are talking about is male or female or even if its none human like a dog.

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Moxie Grumby

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07-13-2005 12:12

I think the word you might be looking for is "on".

elka Lehane

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mmmhhh

07-13-2005 12:23

Well I did not understand it as he/she/it ALL TOGETHER.

But if so, if you want to use them all at once in one word, then yes, Lupo was right,

you say: on.

There you go.

elka

Lupo Clymer

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07-13-2005 12:30

Thank you all for the help.

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07-13-2005 14:23

Ha ha ha ha

The French Insulted!

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Siggy Romulus

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07-13-2005 14:45

In an retort, the Ambassador was overheard telling Mr Shintaro Ishihara that he would 'wave his private parts at him' and 'call his daughter of ill repute silly things'..

As he drove away he could be heard yelling something about 'Dirty Ki-nig-its'

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Garoad Kuroda

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07-13-2005 15:38

Was that just yelled randomly, or was it in his "general direction"?

From: elka Lehane

For you, a dog is "it". For us, it's either female or male (she/he).

Most people use he/she for dogs too mainly if they know which to use, otherwise sometimes "it" if there's uncertainty. But any "pet person" will not call an animal "it", I'd rather guess and be wrong than say "it".

So, since the thread is done anyway, I'm hijacking it... who here calls animals IT? Comeon, confess, so we pet owners can stone you!

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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

Cocoanut Koala

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07-13-2005 15:47

The interesting thing about French is that EVERYTHING is either male or female. Books, breadboxes, everything. Wonder if a computer is a "le" or a "la?"

coco

Garoad Kuroda

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07-13-2005 15:57

Well that's just weird. Inanimate objects = it. Living things (with exception of bugs and crap like that) = he/she.

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BTW

WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

Leilany LaFollette

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07-13-2005 20:03

Not weird, just English

I believe all the romance languages make gender distinctions regardless of animation capabilities

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Lupo Clymer

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07-14-2005 09:27

From: Garoad Kuroda

So, since the thread is done anyway, I'm hijacking it... who here calls animals IT? Comeon, confess, so we pet owners can stone you!

Dogs: Stud or Bitch. He/she works.

Cats: Cat

Rodents: it

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elka Lehane

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more french from elka!!

07-14-2005 22:11

From: Cocoanut Koala

The interesting thing about French is that EVERYTHING is either male or female. Books, breadboxes, everything. Wonder if a computer is a "le" or a "la?"

coco

You would say *one computer* we say *un ordinateur*.
Computer is male for us.
Female would have been *une*.

Or, if you're pointing it or something you say *this computer*.
We say *cet ordinateur*.
Female would have been *cette*.

If you're just plain talking about it you say *the computer*.
That's where we usually use *le* for male, or *la* for female.
But with *ordinateur* (computer) we don't use any of those.
We will use *l'* --> *l'ordinateur*.
Because it starts with "o". Vowel.

But that would become maybe a tad too deep and could require a whole class, LOL

But I'll be happy if this helped you a little.

*hugs*

elka -xx-

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07-14-2005 22:18

Spanish and Italian also make gender distinctions for pretty much everything. And those that are indeterminate are given the male article.

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07-14-2005 22:23

From: Siggy Romulus

In an retort, the Ambassador was overheard telling Mr Shintaro Ishihara that he would 'wave his private parts at him' and 'call his daughter of ill repute silly things'..

As he drove away he could be heard yelling something about 'Dirty Ki-nig-its'

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French Help
Lupo Clymer The Lost Pagan Join date: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 778	07-13-2005 11:24 French Help I remember once being told the French have a word for “he/she/it” I don’t know what it is and would like to know if some one can help he out. Came up at lunch my Colleague English Professor wanted us to use Shit for he/she/it. _____________________ --------------------------------------- Hate is not a family Value! --------------------------------------- I am a pagan, I vote! Do you? ---------------------------------------
elka Lehane WOWAWIWA Join date: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 983	lil class 07-13-2005 11:29 Greetings! My primary langage is french There is not ONE word for these. There are many. AND it also depends a lot on what you're going to talk about. Like... For you, a dog is "it". For us, it's either female or male (she/he). Very basic would be: he : il she: elle it: doesn't really exist, but if you're pointing at something to show it, for an exemple, you're going to say: cela (or ça, for a more slang version) If you want to explain me more what is needed to be said, more details etc, then I can help you. I always loooooove to teach french and learn english. You can either send me private, reply here, or IM me ingame. Good luck! elka-da-frenchiepoo
Lupo Clymer The Lost Pagan Join date: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 778	07-13-2005 11:32 From: elka Lehane Greetings! My primary langage is french There is not ONE word for these. There are many. AND it also depends a lot on what you're going to talk about. Like... For you, a dog is "it". For us, it's either female or male (she/he). Very basic would be: he : il she: elle it: doesn't really exist, but if you're pointing at something to show it, for an exemple, you're going to say: cela (or ça, for a more slang version) If you want to explain me more what is needed to be said, more details etc, then I can help you. I always loooooove to teach french and learn english. You can either send me private, reply here, or IM me ingame. Good luck! elka-da-frenchiepoo My English professor told us that the French have a word that is a generic pronoun meaning basically he/she/it if you don’t know if what you are talking about is male or female or even if its none human like a dog. _____________________ --------------------------------------- Hate is not a family Value! --------------------------------------- I am a pagan, I vote! Do you? ---------------------------------------
Moxie Grumby the errant Miss Cupcake Join date: 29 Apr 2005 Posts: 48	07-13-2005 12:12 I think the word you might be looking for is "on".
elka Lehane WOWAWIWA Join date: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 983	mmmhhh 07-13-2005 12:23 Well I did not understand it as he/she/it ALL TOGETHER. But if so, if you want to use them all at once in one word, then yes, Lupo was right, you say: on. There you go. elka
Lupo Clymer The Lost Pagan Join date: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 778	07-13-2005 12:30 Thank you all for the help. _____________________ --------------------------------------- Hate is not a family Value! --------------------------------------- I am a pagan, I vote! Do you? ---------------------------------------
Lo Jacobs Awesome Possum Join date: 28 May 2004 Posts: 2,734	07-13-2005 14:23 Ha ha ha ha The French Insulted! _____________________ http://churchofluxe.com/Luster
Siggy Romulus DILLIGAF Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,711	07-13-2005 14:45 In an retort, the Ambassador was overheard telling Mr Shintaro Ishihara that he would 'wave his private parts at him' and 'call his daughter of ill repute silly things'.. As he drove away he could be heard yelling something about 'Dirty Ki-nig-its' Siggy. _____________________ The Second Life forums are living proof as to why it's illegal for people to have sex with farm animals. From: Jesse Linden I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	07-13-2005 15:38 Was that just yelled randomly, or was it in his "general direction"? From: elka Lehane For you, a dog is "it". For us, it's either female or male (she/he). Most people use he/she for dogs too mainly if they know which to use, otherwise sometimes "it" if there's uncertainty. But any "pet person" will not call an animal "it", I'd rather guess and be wrong than say "it". So, since the thread is done anyway, I'm hijacking it... who here calls animals IT? Comeon, confess, so we pet owners can stone you! _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Cocoanut Koala Coco's Cottages Join date: 7 Feb 2005 Posts: 7,903	07-13-2005 15:47 The interesting thing about French is that EVERYTHING is either male or female. Books, breadboxes, everything. Wonder if a computer is a "le" or a "la?" coco
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	07-13-2005 15:57 Well that's just weird. Inanimate objects = it. Living things (with exception of bugs and crap like that) = he/she. _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Leilany LaFollette Not old, just older Join date: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 686	07-13-2005 20:03 Not weird, just English I believe all the romance languages make gender distinctions regardless of animation capabilities _____________________ Es el libertador. Es el océano, lejos, allá, en mi patria, que me espera...
Lupo Clymer The Lost Pagan Join date: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 778	07-14-2005 09:27 From: Garoad Kuroda So, since the thread is done anyway, I'm hijacking it... who here calls animals IT? Comeon, confess, so we pet owners can stone you! Dogs: Stud or Bitch. He/she works. Cats: Cat Rodents: it _____________________ --------------------------------------- Hate is not a family Value! --------------------------------------- I am a pagan, I vote! Do you? ---------------------------------------
elka Lehane WOWAWIWA Join date: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 983	more french from elka!! 07-14-2005 22:11 From: Cocoanut Koala The interesting thing about French is that EVERYTHING is either male or female. Books, breadboxes, everything. Wonder if a computer is a "le" or a "la?" coco You would say one computer we say un ordinateur. Computer is male for us. Female would have been une. Or, if you're pointing it or something you say this computer. We say cet ordinateur. Female would have been cette. If you're just plain talking about it you say the computer. That's where we usually use le for male, or la for female. But with ordinateur (computer) we don't use any of those. We will use l' --> l'ordinateur. Because it starts with "o". Vowel. But that would become maybe a tad too deep and could require a whole class, LOL But I'll be happy if this helped you a little. hugs elka -xx-
Madame Maracas Not who you think I am... Join date: 7 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,953	Romance-ing the Men & Women of Linguistics 07-14-2005 22:18 Spanish and Italian also make gender distinctions for pretty much everything. And those that are indeterminate are given the male article. !Tres Machos! And yes I know that's awful! lol _____________________ RadioRadio - http://radioradiosl.com M 6 Hobbes Abattoir T 7 Sezmra Svorag W 4 Brian Mason W 6 Moira Stern W 8 Nala Galatea Th 6 Chet Neurocam F 6 Vertigo Paris F 9 Madame Maracas S 5 Madame Maracas S 8 TriNala Su 6 Trinity Serpentine http://madamemaracas.wordpress.com - Madame Maracas Blaaagh Plurk - http://www.plurk.com/user/MadameMaracas
Vincent Cinquetti Happy-go-lucky scamp Join date: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 134	07-14-2005 22:23 From: Siggy Romulus In an retort, the Ambassador was overheard telling Mr Shintaro Ishihara that he would 'wave his private parts at him' and 'call his daughter of ill repute silly things'.. As he drove away he could be heard yelling something about 'Dirty Ki-nig-its' Siggy. You gotta be british with all these british comedy quotes You should wash your beard, then shave it off, nail it to a Frisbee and fling it over a rainbow. _____________________ Canceled my products as there is no interest. Abashed, the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is.

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