Someone tell me what should have been done???

I'm sure many of us have been in these kinds of situations Della and I'm sorry you had to go through this.

Lindens can be very overwhelmed dealing with multiple situations but remember you can still fill an abuse report today.

OH, Merwan, I really, really wanted to shoot him so bad. Blue Linden let me shoot him the other day of course he shot me first but WOW it felt so good. hehe

Anyhow, I would rather shoot people while having fun and not out out anger. I feel we will see these guys again. My security team told me that the G-Spot sent them. Not sure if the guys were telling the truth or not but if they were why???? I don't even know the owners. I went to their club one time and quickly left after I realized what kind of place that was.

Yes, I realize the Lindens are overworked computer droids. lol

Ssgoku is quickly making a friendly name for himself. So far, even as a hermit, I've had occasion to neg rate him one night, and then two nights later, file an abuse report on him.

I doubt very much that he is even 18, and in his own words, "I don't care if you report me, I have three accounts and hardly ever play SL. I have a real life unlike you losers".

On my first meeting with him, he was IM'ing all the female AVs at a small gathering, offering them L$1,000 to have AV sex with him. When one of the ladies played along in a sarcastic way and tp'd him back to the gathering, he called her such romantic names as , "bitch" and "whore".

Then, while building on a private sim, Vida de Sol, he appeared, and after a bizarre series of questions and sudden (AWAY)'s, he proceeded to shoot a women standing next to me with a push gun, and then later, when I was trying to place a prim, he shot me with the same pushgun.

Of course, I filed an abuse report.

OMG, he offered Susie $10,000L to leave Jonathan, Sir.

With a name like SSGOKU, from a cartoon my 12 year old son used to like when he was YOUNGER .. id also agree it would be reasonable to wonder if this person is a minor.

Still maybe this player is over 18 and acts immature.

Im not sure this is all correct to put on the forums, however I did notice SSgoku had to be ejected from one of my friend's land yesterday also.

People who call other players losers and claim to be better than others, for whatever reason, really are inconsiderate and show a lack of basic respect for other people.

So their own real lifes must not be so great after all to have been raised so poorly.

This goes for griefers and others that call their fellow players "losers" and whatnot.

It is frustrating as hell not to be able to defend one's self. I had far better weaponry and could have blasted him to hell, but instead just sat down (to keep from being pushed again) and proceeded to fill out an abuse report while he shot me repeatedly and fire bombed the area I was building.

I'm sorry, Della. It sucks that anyone's online experience should be soured by assholes like that. But, as Stormy noted in another thread, sometimes karma actually works.

I just wanted to note that, though I realize there's a reason player names aren't supposed to be used on the board, this is a case where I'm glad to know who this person is. I will be careful to avoid them, and most of all careful to not feed back into his juvenile, twisted need for negative attention. I've seen players like him before, going back to UOL (Griefer Central). Their need to harrass others will always be a mystery to me.

It troubles me that you were told these griefers were sent by a club, regardless of the type of club that may be. I'd think that any business establishment would realize that their own viability relied on maintaining a good image in the player community. Even strip joints and escort services. Or maybe especially strip joints and escort services.

But there's no accounting for people's thought processes sometimes.

Cindy

Yep, I was there when that happened. What an idiot.

LL simply does not have the ability to deal with malicious alts. It has been proven time and time again. Any statement to the contrary ignores the overwhelming evidence.

Alts should either be publicly tied to the owner, or should be forbidden. Period. This is not "punishing the innocent". It is being realistic about a situation that the Lindens have failed to find a solution to for almost three years. By refusing to take meaningful and effective action, LL is very much in fact "punishing the innocent". Just read this, and numerous other, threads regarding the matter.

People say "privacy privacy I don't want people knowing who my alts are". However, you can not stop me from obtaining that information in world and publishing it externally. People do it in the forums all the time and do not get banned. Again, the evidence is available if you look around for it, however, you are of course free to ignore it.

My case in point: a resident threatened my physically. I reported him. After quite some time, the resident was apparently banned. That resident started an alt and came into game, and informed me that I, and several other residents, was responsible for the suicide of the original resident. Suffice to say it did not make my day. Or week. LL in the meantime sends me an email stating "be assured you are secure within the SL environment". They then permit people to use portions of their software to publish my account name and unique user key.

Sorry, but my sense of security is all but gone. I do not feel my SL presence is confined to SL, and I do not feel secure.

And it can happen again. And again. And LL can't do a thing about it. As long as that person finds the resources to start an alt, it is unavoidable.

I remind you that I have seen this exact same state of affairs, without any effective measures implemented whatsoever, for almost THREE YEARS.

This is the state of LLs policy, and SL.

I'm curious, Tcoz, how you would tell the difference between a legitimate second account (such as a spouse) and an alt? If you claim it doesn't matter, then perhaps you'd like to suggest whether it should be all the Husbands who are kicked off, or all of the Wives. I'm sure LL would love to have someone else make that choice for them.

And if you're actually suggesting that you'll disclose peoples' alts on a third party website, after the huge temper tantrums you threw about a list of keys being published, then I have a Hypocrite Of The Year Award for you.

Jonq, don't start implying lies, or perhaps you will get an award of some kind that you deserve. And no, that will not involve hurting you, or anybody, or publishing your RL info, or eating babies, or Al Queda activity. So stifle it.

I never said I would do any such thing. However, I can point you to at least one non-SL fansite where this activity occurs frequently.

It is interesting that my concerns for security and privacy within the SL environment are now a community target for attempting to prove me as a hypocrite. It is as if the entire community is waiting for me to slip up so that somehow these breaches can be validated and this activity can be justified.

Good luck, it'll never happen. Apparently, unlike a great deal of the community, I respect users privacy to the extreme. Though that won't prevent people from stating or implying that it has or will. I remind you I have never been issued a warning or suspension of any kind in almost three years, and am still a mentor in good standing.

Stating, "there is no way to tell alts" throws up your hands and admits defeat.

It also strengthens my point that when 40k emails hit the SL network from a spam list, LL will be powerless to find the offender. Or if they do, will be powerless to prevent it from happening again.

LL just needs to give the land owners and users of SL more tools such as an anti-push land setting or Avatar settings. We need things like that not more rules/policing/anti-privacy.

First, what lies did I imply? You stated in your own post that you could out alts on another web site, and I stated that I certianly hoped you weren't implying that you would. I know, reading is hard, but give it a shot.

Second, I'm not the SL community out to get you and wait for you to slip up, you poor, poor dear. I'm one resident who directed a post to you. How you people manage to get that last nail in yourself always puzzles me.

Third, You never answered the question. How would you distinguish between an ALT and a legitimate second account?

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