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Etain Peregrine

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10-21-2004 15:50

Hi, anyone in the SL community that is fluent in both English and Japanese, or close to, please give me an IM in world, I could use a simple phrase translated. If you feel like doing it on here, the phrase in question is: Building Dreams. Thanks! Don't let me down, SLers!

Talen Morgan

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10-21-2004 16:03

zousaku mugen

Translates to making dreams

Juro Kothari

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10-21-2004 16:14

建物は夢を見る

I don't know how literal it is.. when I translated it back into English I got: The building looks at dream.

It could also be that 'building' doesn't really translate. I'll have to ask my coworker.

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10-21-2004 16:50

私は夢を造っている。 ? :d

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10-21-2004 17:00

Ooh, Cross! Get out that phrase you translated into Japanese. Surely you remember which one!

If not, it's still on my computer somewhere.

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Etain Peregrine

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10-21-2004 17:51

Awesome I knew I could rely on the amassed knowledge of the SL Community! And thanks Talen, I was looking for it in romanji. Can I substitute Yume for Mugen? Or for the other word? Whichever one is dream?

Talen Morgan

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10-21-2004 19:04

From: Etain Peregrine

Awesome I knew I could rely on the amassed knowledge of the SL Community! And thanks Talen, I was looking for it in romanji. Can I substitute Yume for Mugen? Or for the other word? Whichever one is dream?

That I'm not sure of but I could research it some more.....I don't know a lot of Japanese just what a friend taught me .

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10-21-2004 19:28

From: Tikki Kerensky

Ooh, Cross! Get out that phrase you translated into Japanese. Surely you remember which one!

If not, it's still on my computer somewhere.

Which? The one that goes:

Uchi no naka kaidan desu ka?

or the other one that goes:

Watashi wa soujiki desu!

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Tikki Kerensky

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10-21-2004 19:32

I think the first, what's the second? o.o

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10-21-2004 19:36

From: Tikki Kerensky

I think the first, what's the second? o.o

"I am a vacuum-cleaner."

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10-21-2004 19:42

And the first being 'Do you have stairs in your house'?

ps: be in game sometime darnit! I want to see your avs in person. n.n

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Etain Peregrine

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10-21-2004 20:08

Errr actually checking this, I don't think it's right:

Zousaku:
zousaku　雑作
CATEGORY:　architecture / genaral terms
　
Also witten 造作.
All non-permanent parts of a Japanese building in contrast to those parts that are permanent and immovable. The parts of a building installed after the framework and roof are completed. This includes: flooring, yuka 床; ceilings, *tenjou 天; doors and doorways, *toguchi 戸口; kitchen; bath and lavatory; fixtures, cupboards and shelving; verandas; hallways; windows; etc. The materials from which the interior fixtures and verandas are made are called zousakuzai 雑作材.

Mugen:
Looking at my dictionary, Mugen means 'infinity.' Web searches are turning up things like 'without limit' and 'unlimited.'

What I came up with was:

Yume wa watashitachi ga tateru.

This is literally correct ("We build dreams"

but I'm not sure on the finer points.... Can anyone give me anything closer than this? Not sure if this is going to get read over on this forum.

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10-21-2004 21:00

From: Etain Peregrine

What I came up with was:

Yume wa watashitachi ga tateru.

This is literally correct ("We build dreams"

but I'm not sure on the finer points.... Can anyone give me anything closer than this? Not sure if this is going to get read over on this forum.

Wouldn't it be the other way around, roughly?

"Watashitachi wa yume ga tateru"?

Otherwise, wouldn't you be saying that the dreams built us?

Mind, I don't really know that much about Japanese... I just watch a lot of Ghost in the Shell.

Handy sites I've stumbled on:

Jeffrey's Japanese-English Dictionary Server

Keith Smillie's Japanese Grammar Page

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Etain Peregrine

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10-21-2004 21:26

From: Cross Lament

Wouldn't it be the other way around, roughly?

"Watashitachi wa yume ga tateru"?

Otherwise, wouldn't you be saying that the dreams built us?

Mind, I don't really know that much about Japanese... I just watch a lot of Ghost in the Shell.

Handy sites I've stumbled on:

Jeffrey's Japanese-English Dictionary Server

Keith Smillie's Japanese Grammar Page

Actually done other way around it would be "Watashitachi wa yume o tateru."
"ga" refers to the action performer, "o" refers to to the action receiver. and "wa" refers to the 'topic' of the sentence. most of the time, this is the action performer, but the word 'we' isn't even in the English version! wa can be on something else, so I put it on Yume, because that's the real topic.

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10-22-2004 00:54

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10-22-2004 09:33

From: Etain Peregrine

Actually done other way around it would be "Watashitachi wa yume o tateru."
"ga" refers to the action performer, "o" refers to to the action receiver. and "wa" refers to the 'topic' of the sentence. most of the time, this is the action performer, but the word 'we' isn't even in the English version! wa can be on something else, so I put it on Yume, because that's the real topic.

Well, the particle "o" is indicative of the direct object in sentences, isn't it? Wouldn't that make it along the lines of "I'm building dreams"? Then again, that kinda IS what you were trying for, isn't it? Okay, I'll shut up, I dunno what I'm talking about.

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Aurens Czukor

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10-22-2004 10:39

The simplest way to say it would be,
"yume wo tsukuteiru"
It literally means "making dreams"

tsukuru=make/build

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Etain Peregrine

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10-22-2004 15:03

Wow Aurens that's a little scary. Late last night I decided to change it to:

Yume wa tsukute imasu.

From what I can tell (from Japanese for Dummies and a Japanese English Dictionary, le sigh) that means more "we make dreams all the time" instead of "we are making dreams right now." Do you think your version is better?

Help with an English-japanese Translation
Etain Peregrine Registered User Join date: 1 Dec 2003 Posts: 166	10-21-2004 15:50 Hi, anyone in the SL community that is fluent in both English and Japanese, or close to, please give me an IM in world, I could use a simple phrase translated. If you feel like doing it on here, the phrase in question is: Building Dreams. Thanks! Don't let me down, SLers!
Talen Morgan Amused Join date: 2 Apr 2004 Posts: 3,097	10-21-2004 16:03 zousaku mugen Translates to making dreams
Juro Kothari Like a dog on a bone Join date: 4 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,418	10-21-2004 16:14 建物は夢を見る I don't know how literal it is.. when I translated it back into English I got: The building looks at dream. It could also be that 'building' doesn't really translate. I'll have to ask my coworker. _____________________
Cross Lament Loose-brained Vixen Join date: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 1,115	10-21-2004 16:50 私は夢を造っている。 ? :d _____________________ - Making everyone's day just a little more surreal - Teeple Linden: "OK, where did the tentacled thing go while I was playing with my face?"
Tikki Kerensky Insane critter Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 687	10-21-2004 17:00 Ooh, Cross! Get out that phrase you translated into Japanese. Surely you remember which one! If not, it's still on my computer somewhere. _____________________ Pudding takes away the pain, the pain of not having pudding.
Etain Peregrine Registered User Join date: 1 Dec 2003 Posts: 166	10-21-2004 17:51 Awesome I knew I could rely on the amassed knowledge of the SL Community! And thanks Talen, I was looking for it in romanji. Can I substitute Yume for Mugen? Or for the other word? Whichever one is dream?
Talen Morgan Amused Join date: 2 Apr 2004 Posts: 3,097	10-21-2004 19:04 From: Etain Peregrine Awesome I knew I could rely on the amassed knowledge of the SL Community! And thanks Talen, I was looking for it in romanji. Can I substitute Yume for Mugen? Or for the other word? Whichever one is dream? That I'm not sure of but I could research it some more.....I don't know a lot of Japanese just what a friend taught me .
Cross Lament Loose-brained Vixen Join date: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 1,115	10-21-2004 19:28 From: Tikki Kerensky Ooh, Cross! Get out that phrase you translated into Japanese. Surely you remember which one! If not, it's still on my computer somewhere. Which? The one that goes: Uchi no naka kaidan desu ka? or the other one that goes: Watashi wa soujiki desu! _____________________ - Making everyone's day just a little more surreal - Teeple Linden: "OK, where did the tentacled thing go while I was playing with my face?"
Tikki Kerensky Insane critter Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 687	10-21-2004 19:32 I think the first, what's the second? o.o _____________________ Pudding takes away the pain, the pain of not having pudding.
Cross Lament Loose-brained Vixen Join date: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 1,115	10-21-2004 19:36 From: Tikki Kerensky I think the first, what's the second? o.o "I am a vacuum-cleaner." _____________________ - Making everyone's day just a little more surreal - Teeple Linden: "OK, where did the tentacled thing go while I was playing with my face?"
Tikki Kerensky Insane critter Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 687	10-21-2004 19:42 And the first being 'Do you have stairs in your house'? ps: be in game sometime darnit! I want to see your avs in person. n.n _____________________ Pudding takes away the pain, the pain of not having pudding.
Etain Peregrine Registered User Join date: 1 Dec 2003 Posts: 166	10-21-2004 20:08 Errr actually checking this, I don't think it's right: Zousaku: zousaku　雑作 CATEGORY:　architecture / genaral terms 　 Also witten 造作. All non-permanent parts of a Japanese building in contrast to those parts that are permanent and immovable. The parts of a building installed after the framework and roof are completed. This includes: flooring, yuka 床; ceilings, tenjou 天; doors and doorways, toguchi 戸口; kitchen; bath and lavatory; fixtures, cupboards and shelving; verandas; hallways; windows; etc. The materials from which the interior fixtures and verandas are made are called zousakuzai 雑作材. Mugen: Looking at my dictionary, Mugen means 'infinity.' Web searches are turning up things like 'without limit' and 'unlimited.' What I came up with was: Yume wa watashitachi ga tateru. This is literally correct ("We build dreams" but I'm not sure on the finer points.... Can anyone give me anything closer than this? Not sure if this is going to get read over on this forum.
Cross Lament Loose-brained Vixen Join date: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 1,115	10-21-2004 21:00 From: Etain Peregrine What I came up with was: Yume wa watashitachi ga tateru. This is literally correct ("We build dreams" but I'm not sure on the finer points.... Can anyone give me anything closer than this? Not sure if this is going to get read over on this forum. Wouldn't it be the other way around, roughly? "Watashitachi wa yume ga tateru"? Otherwise, wouldn't you be saying that the dreams built us? Mind, I don't really know that much about Japanese... I just watch a lot of Ghost in the Shell. Handy sites I've stumbled on: Jeffrey's Japanese-English Dictionary Server Keith Smillie's Japanese Grammar Page _____________________ - Making everyone's day just a little more surreal - Teeple Linden: "OK, where did the tentacled thing go while I was playing with my face?"
Etain Peregrine Registered User Join date: 1 Dec 2003 Posts: 166	10-21-2004 21:26 From: Cross Lament Wouldn't it be the other way around, roughly? "Watashitachi wa yume ga tateru"? Otherwise, wouldn't you be saying that the dreams built us? Mind, I don't really know that much about Japanese... I just watch a lot of Ghost in the Shell. Handy sites I've stumbled on: Jeffrey's Japanese-English Dictionary Server Keith Smillie's Japanese Grammar Page Actually done other way around it would be "Watashitachi wa yume o tateru." "ga" refers to the action performer, "o" refers to to the action receiver. and "wa" refers to the 'topic' of the sentence. most of the time, this is the action performer, but the word 'we' isn't even in the English version! wa can be on something else, so I put it on Yume, because that's the real topic.
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	10-22-2004 00:54 Lip my stockings! _____________________ Help us document Second Life history at http://slhistory.org!
Cross Lament Loose-brained Vixen Join date: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 1,115	10-22-2004 09:33 From: Etain Peregrine Actually done other way around it would be "Watashitachi wa yume o tateru." "ga" refers to the action performer, "o" refers to to the action receiver. and "wa" refers to the 'topic' of the sentence. most of the time, this is the action performer, but the word 'we' isn't even in the English version! wa can be on something else, so I put it on Yume, because that's the real topic. Well, the particle "o" is indicative of the direct object in sentences, isn't it? Wouldn't that make it along the lines of "I'm building dreams"? Then again, that kinda IS what you were trying for, isn't it? Okay, I'll shut up, I dunno what I'm talking about. _____________________ - Making everyone's day just a little more surreal - Teeple Linden: "OK, where did the tentacled thing go while I was playing with my face?"
Aurens Czukor Waster of Prims Join date: 3 Oct 2004 Posts: 60	10-22-2004 10:39 The simplest way to say it would be, "yume wo tsukuteiru" It literally means "making dreams" tsukuru=make/build _____________________ t('.' t) t('.' t) t('.' t) t('.' t) t('.' t) t('.' t) t('.' t) t('.' t) t('.' t) ... Kirby does not like you.
Etain Peregrine Registered User Join date: 1 Dec 2003 Posts: 166	10-22-2004 15:03 Wow Aurens that's a little scary. Late last night I decided to change it to: Yume wa tsukute imasu. From what I can tell (from Japanese for Dummies and a Japanese English Dictionary, le sigh) that means more "we make dreams all the time" instead of "we are making dreams right now." Do you think your version is better?

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