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N.O - Euthanasia reports being quieted ?

Ellie Edo
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09-11-2005 20:53
Here is New Orleans related issue, so controversial I almost hesitate to post.
The British press is carrying a horrific interview with a British nurse just returned from a NO hospital.

It describes how conditions deteriorated as they waited for help that didn't come until Thursday.
It seems to have the ring of truth, despite coming from a tabloid newspaper.

From: someone
A BRITISH nurse last night told of the agonising decisions she was forced to make as she 'played God' with patients in her New Orleans hospital, besieged by armed gangs and under fire from snipers.
From: someone
Although she had to make heartbreaking decisions, she said she never witnessed any incidents of euthanasia that other New Orleans medical staff saw.
'People were dying like flies,' she said.
From: someone
'There were gangs of looters in the chemist's across the street. Some got inside the hospital, put on nurses' uniforms and looked for drugs.'We were surrounded by floodwater 6ft deep. Gunmen in nearby buildings were firing shots through the windows. It was like being in Mogadishu, not the richest country on Earth.
From: someone
I knew there was nothing that could be done. My job was to save the living. It was the hardest decision of my life to walk out and leave them behind, knowing they would die.' She estimates that 25 people died in the hospital, but says: 'It's still hard to talk about it. I didn't sleep, didn't eat. We were just trying to keep people alive.
The sanitary conditions were appalling.
Patients soiled themselves. The smell was unbearable.
'I kept looking out the window waiting for help. Some National Guardsmen came up in a boat but they went away.
One of them, a kid of about 17, shouted up, "We can't stay. It's too dangerous."
From: someone
The snipers were taking potshots through the windows. I was leaning over a patient when a shot went off. I hit the floor. I prayed harder than I've done in my life to let me escape this living hell.
From: someone
Gunmen looted a bank opposite the hospital. 'They were in a boat,' said Sharen. 'They smashed the window and came out with bags of money.
'A doctor dragged in an elderly woman. Her daughter had stabbed her over a bag of ice. My brain could not take it in. How could a child stab her mother?'
From: someone
The snipers were taking potshots at the choppers but those pilots were heroes.
By first light on Thursday, a flotilla of hovercraft, normally used to ferry tourists around the Louisiana swamplands, formed impromptu rescue teams who risked their lives to help while the authorities dithered. The remaining ablebodied patients were loaded in, but two people who were near death had to be left behind.
Sharen was dropped off in downtown New Orleans:'We were wading through water. We waited in the darkness for two hours. The crowd was angry. Men were saying, "We're gonna rape you."' Atruck took her out of town, then she hitched a lift on an ambulance to Baton Rouge.

Here is the link:
http://www.rednova.com/news/health/237136/i_looked_at_patients_and_decided_who_was_to_live/
I don't know what weight we can give to every detail of this, but it seems to carry the ring of truth to me.
Searching more online I find nothing direct from west of the atlantic, referencing yet to the "incidents of euthanasia that other New Orleans medical staff saw.".

Google news, searching for "euthanasia New orleans" and sorting by date gave me
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2005/09/11/gov-blanco-on-august-29_n_7188.html
"Huffington Post,*NY*- 5 hours ago
... In an extraordinary interview with The Mail on Sunday, one New Orleans doctor told ... Euthanasia is illegal in Louisiana, and The Mail on Sunday is protecting the ..."

But when I read the article, the word Euthanasia is nowhere to be found, nor any mention of the interview with the doctor. Something seems to have changed.

I did find this :
"In local hospitals, doctors and nurses trapped with thousands of patients had to decide who got medicine and who got hooked up to life-saving ventilators in hot, dark wards as supplies of water, food and medicine dwindled. By the end of the first week, doctors were forced to decide between intravenously feeding themselves or their patients."
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA091105.1N.katrina_special.cc48182.html

But there is lots from UK and australian sources. There appears to be at least one other entirely independent interview with a doctor.

Can we assume this IS a smoke without fire, arising from sensational journalism, or is there more to come out do you think ? Or to be censored ?

My opinion on the "euthanasia" is that no doctor should be criticised, provided she did the best possible in the circumstances. If others create insane circumstances, it's not their doing.

But the other details - well ! Fits perfectly with what was in the live blog someone gave us a link to.

We all need to learn from this how fragile our societies really are, and how thin the veneer of civilisation. Anyone feeling superior is missing the point.


Note: The italics in the quotes are added by me, in an attempt to identify what is definitely the witness speaking.
Rose Karuna
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09-12-2005 08:15
I found this one and it appears to have been confirmed by another person who was in the hospital as a worker. The thing is, what else could they do? It is not the doctors at fault in this case, they did the merciful thing, it is whatever political system that prevented evacuation of these people BEFORE the hurricane that should be held accountable.

World | U.S.A.

Published: 12/9/2005, 13:36 (UAE)

Doctors euthanised critical patients

Agencies

Baton Rouge: Devastated doctors have revealed that they performed ‘mercy killings’ on patients rather than watching them die in agony in the chaotic aftermath Hurricane Katrina brought to Louisiana.

A New Orleans doctor, who was forced to flee her hospital last week to escape armed looters, told British newspaper The Daily Mail, that patients were divided into three categories. Those who were fit enough to survive, those who needed urgent treatment, and those who were dying.

The harrowed doctor told how she “prayed for God to have mercy on her soul" after she euthanised suffering patients.

"This was not murder, this was compassion. They would have been dead within hours, if not days," she said.

"What we did was give comfort to the end. I had cancer patients who were in agony. In some cases the drugs may have speeded up the death process.”

With the hospital pharmacy under siege by looters, doctors were unable to medicate critically ill patients.

"The pharmacy was under lockdown because gangs of armed looters were roaming around looking for their fix” the New Orleans doctor continued.

"You have to understand these people were going to die anyway," she said.

William McQueen, a utility manager for the town of Abita Springs, half an hour north of New Orleans, told relatives that patients had been 'put down', saying: "They injected them, but nurses stayed with them until they died."

Euthanasia is illegal in the state of Louisiana.
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Camille Serpentine
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09-12-2005 11:04
Took a lot of courage for them to do that.

Now people will say you could have waited it out, help was coming...

But clearly for those patients it wasn't.

Personally I'd rather go quickly and peacefully then have a long lingering painful death.
Zuzu Fassbinder
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09-13-2005 09:45
If Terri Schiavo had been in that hospital congress would have had them evacuated a week sooner.
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