Second Life Forums Archive - The Big Frame Rate Questionnaire

Jsecure Hanks

Capitalist

Join date: 9 Dec 2003

Posts: 1,451

08-10-2005 04:43

People,

I notice a slow frame rate sometimes, and I just read a thread in here where someone else said they also were with a 3GHz machine on a 1.5mbps machine. So I figured, what is the situation on the ground? How many are fine, and how many have slow frame rates?

Here's a quiz to gather some raw data from the people.

Definitions:

* Slow computer ==> Let's say, a computer that struggles to run a number of 3D type games
* Slow framerate ==> A frame rate which you feel gets in the way of your normal use of Second Life

Eggy Lippmann

Wiktator

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 7,939

08-10-2005 04:52

Define slow. When does this happen?
SL works pretty well on my 4 year old computer, but granted, I'm a scripter, so more often than not I just need to draw my own avatar and a default textured cube

I also keep the draw distance at 64...

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Jesrad Seraph

Nonsense

Join date: 11 Dec 2004

Posts: 1,463

08-10-2005 05:00

With my 2002 laptop and not-so-mighty GeForce4 MX, even the 8 mbps link can't help. Keeping the drawing distance at 96 or 64 m, outfit composite at 3 (soon to be 2), no fog and middle to low detail can, though.

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Richie Waves

Predictable

Join date: 29 Jun 2005

Posts: 1,424

08-10-2005 05:25

I've a 2.8ghz P4 1gb ram, and Rad 9800xt and a 3mbit line, not counting lag the world runs exellently on full gfx.

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Malachi Petunia

Gentle Miscreant

Join date: 21 Sep 2003

Posts: 3,414

08-10-2005 05:56

2GHz P4, 1.5GB RAM, nVidia 6800, intel PSEV845 mobo, 1600x1200 res windowed, 768 Mb DSL 5Mm from Linden Lab, ping times around 100ms, typical 20fps, good 40 fps, 5.8 fps at a 100 avatar love-in last night.

FlipperPA Peregrine

Magically Delicious!

Join date: 14 Nov 2003

Posts: 3,703

08-10-2005 07:36

3.6 ghz P4, gig of PC-4200 ram, 1680x1050, nvidia 6800 ultra 256 meg, laptop, and I regularly get 25-30 fps... sometimes I exceed 60-70 fps in the right areas.

Regards,

-Flip

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Seldon Metropolitan

Zen Taxi Driver

Join date: 20 Jun 2005

Posts: 376

08-10-2005 07:40

I have a 2.27 GHz pentium4, a Raedon 9200 128, and a connection thats greater than 1Mbpps.

I get a moderately good framerate. it isnt good enough to keep me happy all the time, but its bearable, even under heavy lag.

there wasn't a medium ground on the poll so I voted other.

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Alondria LeFay

Registered User

Join date: 2 May 2003

Posts: 725

08-10-2005 07:52

Athlon 2800, 768meg ram, nVidia 5200, 6Mbit line.. I average around 15fps, although I have about a trillion other applications running also.

blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

08-10-2005 08:24

Intel Celeron 2.4 GHz 768 Mb of ram, Radeon 9250 (cheap vid card) ~15-20 FPS. My cut is at 128 / 1.2 fog ratio.

I don't think your bandwidth has anything to do with your framerate (or, at least it shouldn't).. someone correct me if I am wrong.

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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Travis Lambert

White dog, red collar

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,819

08-10-2005 08:25

My framerates are around 7-15 FPS, and average around 10.

Athlon 2600+
1.5 GB RAM
GeForce FX 5500 256MB Video Card
3000/768 DSL Connection

In an empty sim, I'll see framerates around 20, and at an event with 30 people, I'll see framerates around 2-3.

Some sims/locations are worse than others, of course. But regardless of where I am, High Framerates and High Attendance seem to be mutually exclusive.

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blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

08-10-2005 08:28

What is your cut at, folks? That's kinda the major determining factor of your framerate.

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

The Big Frame Rate Questionnaire
Jsecure Hanks Capitalist Join date: 9 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,451	08-10-2005 04:43 People, I notice a slow frame rate sometimes, and I just read a thread in here where someone else said they also were with a 3GHz machine on a 1.5mbps machine. So I figured, what is the situation on the ground? How many are fine, and how many have slow frame rates? Here's a quiz to gather some raw data from the people. Definitions: * Slow computer ==> Let's say, a computer that struggles to run a number of 3D type games * Slow framerate ==> A frame rate which you feel gets in the way of your normal use of Second Life
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	08-10-2005 04:52 Define slow. When does this happen? SL works pretty well on my 4 year old computer, but granted, I'm a scripter, so more often than not I just need to draw my own avatar and a default textured cube I also keep the draw distance at 64... _____________________ Help us document Second Life history at http://slhistory.org!
Jesrad Seraph Nonsense Join date: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,463	08-10-2005 05:00 With my 2002 laptop and not-so-mighty GeForce4 MX, even the 8 mbps link can't help. Keeping the drawing distance at 96 or 64 m, outfit composite at 3 (soon to be 2), no fog and middle to low detail can, though. _____________________ Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
Richie Waves Predictable Join date: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,424	08-10-2005 05:25 I've a 2.8ghz P4 1gb ram, and Rad 9800xt and a 3mbit line, not counting lag the world runs exellently on full gfx. _____________________ no u!
Malachi Petunia Gentle Miscreant Join date: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 3,414	08-10-2005 05:56 2GHz P4, 1.5GB RAM, nVidia 6800, intel PSEV845 mobo, 1600x1200 res windowed, 768 Mb DSL 5Mm from Linden Lab, ping times around 100ms, typical 20fps, good 40 fps, 5.8 fps at a 100 avatar love-in last night.
FlipperPA Peregrine Magically Delicious! Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 3,703	08-10-2005 07:36 3.6 ghz P4, gig of PC-4200 ram, 1680x1050, nvidia 6800 ultra 256 meg, laptop, and I regularly get 25-30 fps... sometimes I exceed 60-70 fps in the right areas. Regards, -Flip _____________________ Peregrine Salon: www.PeregrineSalon.com - my consulting company Second Blogger: www.SecondBlogger.com - free, fully integrated Second Life blogging for all avatars!
Seldon Metropolitan Zen Taxi Driver Join date: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 376	08-10-2005 07:40 I have a 2.27 GHz pentium4, a Raedon 9200 128, and a connection thats greater than 1Mbpps. I get a moderately good framerate. it isnt good enough to keep me happy all the time, but its bearable, even under heavy lag. there wasn't a medium ground on the poll so I voted other. _____________________ Solid Foundations, my new craptacular blog.
Alondria LeFay Registered User Join date: 2 May 2003 Posts: 725	08-10-2005 07:52 Athlon 2800, 768meg ram, nVidia 5200, 6Mbit line.. I average around 15fps, although I have about a trillion other applications running also.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	08-10-2005 08:24 Intel Celeron 2.4 GHz 768 Mb of ram, Radeon 9250 (cheap vid card) ~15-20 FPS. My cut is at 128 / 1.2 fog ratio. I don't think your bandwidth has anything to do with your framerate (or, at least it shouldn't).. someone correct me if I am wrong. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Travis Lambert White dog, red collar Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,819	08-10-2005 08:25 My framerates are around 7-15 FPS, and average around 10. Athlon 2600+ 1.5 GB RAM GeForce FX 5500 256MB Video Card 3000/768 DSL Connection In an empty sim, I'll see framerates around 20, and at an event with 30 people, I'll see framerates around 2-3. Some sims/locations are worse than others, of course. But regardless of where I am, High Framerates and High Attendance seem to be mutually exclusive. _____________________ ------------------ The Shelter The Shelter is a non-profit recreation center for new residents, and supporters of new residents. Our goal is to provide a positive & supportive social environment for those looking for one in our overwhelming world.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	08-10-2005 08:28 What is your cut at, folks? That's kinda the major determining factor of your framerate. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

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