This needs to be addressed, quickly

I am not sure of what the author of this script is trying to accomplish, but we've enough problems with sim crashes, etc. etc. without this kind of destructive product being available.

http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=16622

Please, LL, let's nip this one in the bud quickly.

I really dont think tht you ca


LETS GOT RIDE BIKES

Remind me to aim one of those at its maker.

Ouch. That could easily take down the DB server. I hope LL purges all copies of the device from the asset system.

-Adam

http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=509

It's not a problem any more. Creator has already been permabanned for it.

It is interesting that the maker is selling them for $1 as they won't get access to the money anyway. As long as their magic boxes are in world somewhere then they can continue to sell them via shopping web sites.

If anyone is actually stupid enough to use one then no doubt they'll be permabanned too. In the forum post above the creator says that its use required the restart of the grid and hence counted as a grid attack. There is undoubtably machismo connected with claiming to have taken down the grid but if suicide via dialog box is your thing then...

OMG lol when the creator of that fine object first started SL he stalked me for weeks wanting to be my "pet" and offering to help "tidy up" my garden. I kept telling him to go learn to make something.

Maybe I should have just trussed him up with duct tape and locked him in a closet behind a waterfall

Yeah, someone showed this to me about two weeks ago. I sent a link directly to Char, and I'm sure I wasn't the only one. Glad to hear that they nailed this stupid jackass.

As SL grows, there will be many many more of these.

The only thing SL can do is restrict the technology so that global attacks are impossible. Threatening to ban players who do this sort of thing is utterly pointless.

Yeah, because, you know, giving notecards out via script has absolutely no non-griefer value.

True, turning off functionality is probably going to rarely be the answer.

What the LL team needs to do is build up a clear and compelling throttling architecture with appropiate and meritful ways of creating friction.

1 second delays for example are not compelling. Multithreaded objects can easily subvert these techniques.

I was discussing this earlier. Pretty easy to cap this sort of thing on a per-sim basis at something like 100 items/minute. Might screw some of the e-commerce folks though.

But in general, this will not be a problem in the long, decentralized term. For now... instant permaban.

The disruptive want restrictions. They find freedom scary.

The griefer/troll will find another way of being disruptive. They don't care about the functionality - they only care about the disruption. They will just use another LSL function - how many will you throttle before you realise that they've won?

Er... uh... shouldn't Slexchange remove this? er...

And yes, I hope LL has wiped all of these objects.

SLBoutique.com was contacted by the Lindens to immediately remove all instances of this device. In addition, we have permabanned the creator and all known alts from ever posting ANYTHING on our site. We try to take immediate action in these cases.

We do not in any way condone griefers. People making money off the griefer market are what I would call, "pathetic".

Cheers,

-Flip

Yep! reminds me of Mr Shrub's war on "Tourism"!

If it were a matter of simple griefing, I'd agree.

But, because this is a matter of keeping the asset server(s) stable, measures should be put in place to make sure the whole grid does not pay for it.

Beyond that, there's always the permaban.

personally, I think these sales sites should band together and remove all items that have no other use but to grief people...

here's another one: http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=16581



I mean I'm all for guns in the game... I have a large collection of weaponry myself... but things that are only meant to cause problems are not needed and give the rest of the people who play with their guns responsibly a bad name...

I'm pretty sure both Adam Zaius and I have removed these. Its possible Apotheus and/or Anshe are unaware they're listed. Has anyone tried dropping them a message through SLex?

Take care,

-Flip

This is a response I got from SLexchange.com when I complained about it last week.

Mik

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Hi Mikalias,

I have discussed this issue with such items with Linden Lab back when we
were first getting started and we decided that our stance on such
items is similar to that of Linden Lab's. That is, it is legal to
create them, have them, and sell them, but it can be a violation of
the Second Life TOS to use them, depending on exactly how they are
used.

In order to clarify this point in January we added a paragraph into
our own TOS specifically addressing such items:

4.2: User-Supplied Products and Services. You understand that the
products and services available to you through the Service may include
content or functionality that violates the Second Life Terms of
Service. You agree that your access to and use of such materials is at
your own risk. SLExchange.com hereby disclaims any responsibility for
or control over such materials.


For the sake of consistency we plan to mimic Second Life policy
regarding such content, even if their policy changes in the future.

Regards,

Apotheus Silverman


On 6/12/05, mhaefner <mhaefner@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> How can you allow this item to be sold on you website. I have sent an AR
> about this to the lindens. This is nothing but a malicious virus that spams
> the client of the target and uses up processor time on the SL server which
> will effect the performance of SL. I'm strongly thinking of canceling my
> account because of this abomination.
>
> Mikalias
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Category: Home -> Weapons
> L$1999
>
> [ Purchase as a gift ]
>
>
>
> TrannyPet Barmy
> View all by this merchant
> Contact Seller
> T4 - DBomber - Dialog/Notecard Bomb - ULTRA EVIL NASTY MINE/BOMB !!!
>
> A new style of weapon from T4, the dialog bomb.
>
> Simply rez one of these objects and set the target's name using "/500 target
> name". If that target comes into the same sim and with in 96m of the
> DBomber, the DBomber will send them over 15000 blue dialog boxes, along with
> 15000 notecards. It screws the client, and it doesnt stop when the avatar
> logs out, it will continue to pump notecards to their account even whilst
> logged out, if they come with in 96m of the DBomber, they WILL get 15000
> notecards, and many Dialogs(the dialogs dont conintue after the avatar logs
> out, the notecards do though ).
>
> I've certainly had my testing login severely impaired from DBomber whilst
> testing, and seen quite a few complete lock ups.
>
> Really want to give some one a reason to not return to harrassing you,
> dialog/notecard bomb them with DBomber !!! Lets face it, a Defense System,
> so what, the griefer gets pushed away, thats not really any incentive to not
> return. Having your client/browser screwed/locked-up is though
>
> This is not a push weapon and therefore not susceptible to PVP detection
>
> WARNING: do not take these objects back from the world into your inventory,
> either leave them in world to die after an hour, or delete from the world.
> They don't reset, and therefore will retain state in your inventory. Only
> ever rez from the original.
>
>
>

The creator of these objects does not show up in the finder, thus, I must assume has been permabanned. Once a creator has been permanently banned from SL, perhaps they'll reconsider.

Either way, its their perogative. Thanks for the information.

Regards,

-Flip

Well, it is still for sale at SLExchange, and the creator was oh so kind and sent me a copy in world, which I promptly did NOT accept.

I'm sure if I wander too much around SL today, I'm probably gonna have "issues", doesn't take a 2*4 across my brow to show me how this is already going to be a problem.

Here's the conversation on SLExchange between the creator and I.

http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=1544#1544