Ghost Town
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Ryen Jade
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04-06-2004 23:05
First, let me start with a link. http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/This is the site of the infamous "Ghost Town" website. This site documents a young woman's travel through chernobyl. The first thing I felt while viewing this site was true terror. Just the thought of a 50+sq mile area being turned into an inhabitable wasteland because of human error frightens me to the bone. While the chances of this happening in the USA (or canada, or the UK  ) is nill to none (Im guessing about a 0.01% chance) just the thought its POSSIBLE for the end of the world can come VIA humans......... even though it will turn out that way  . ------------------ If you wanna skip the jibba jabba, start here! ------------------ Ok, well here is something that interested me, taken directly from the website (which was taken from a bible verse) From: someone In Ukrainian language ( where we don't like to say "the"  Chernobyl is the name of a grass, wormwood (absinth). This word scares the holy bejesus out of people here. Maybe part of the reason for that among religious people is because the bible mentions Wormwood in the book of the revelatons - which fortells the end of the world.... From: someone REV 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; REV 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. Does that possibly mean that the bible fortold the end of the world via a chernobyl like incident? The connection is clearly there, but, to rephrase, does that mean the bible was stateing the world will end in a nuclear disaster? Im basically putting up a debate, and here we go! Question 1:What are your view on the "Ghost Town" site? Question 2: Is there a connection between the bible verses and chernobyl? ------------------ If you skipped the jibba jabba, start reading here ------------------ 1: Pure Terror (as described above), but some of the pictures also show human spirit (such as the egg picture). 2: Yes, there is a connection. I see the bible verse as a fortelling of the end via a nuclear disaster
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Ryen Jade
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04-06-2004 23:15
Here is something interesting as well! To rephrase this..... From: someone REV 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; REV 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. See attachment......its very, VERY freaky! Look at the red text showing where the rivers are, and the number of each.
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Cyanide Leviathan
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04-07-2004 07:29
The relation between the bible and the incident are very unsetteling, and the school is just plain creepy! Still, i think that everyone whould travel there once, as a reminder to mankind that we still have much to learn and the gift that seperates us from animals will also destroy us
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Selador Cellardoor
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04-07-2004 08:34
There is no correlation between the Bible and the Chernobyl disaster. Not least, the fact that we are all still here tends to support the fact that the world hasn't ended. You might as well say the Biblical version predicts the end of the world because everyone is going to be smashed out of their minds on absinthe.
The important message I got from that chilling article is the fact that the more effect we have on our environment, the more power we can control, the greater will be the effects when things go wrong. And that is something worth considering.
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Dakota Lament
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04-07-2004 09:10
As I read through the pages and looked at the pictures, my sense of curiosity soon changed to anger and then utter sadness at the terrible loss of life.
I really didn't know anything about the Chernobyl disaster, but I do now. The site is indeed chilling. Thanks so much for sharing this.
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Loki Pico
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04-07-2004 09:57
It was a very interesting site, a pleasant surprise. There is so much pointless crap on the web, its nice to see an interesting photo journal like this.
The whole incident was much more interesting to me seeing it from the point of view of the webpage designer. Unfortunately, its easy to shrug off main stream news these days. But from this perspective, I learned more about the Chernobyl incident in the last 20 minutes than I have since it happened.
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Jellin Pico
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04-07-2004 10:16
What scares me most is how powerless we are to repair this kind of damage. We do our best to bottle the sun, we congratulate ourselves on how brilliant we are, toast ourselves on our accomplishments, and yet when the worst happens, all we can do is jury-rig a giant burial and run like rabbits.
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Ryen Jade
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04-07-2004 10:54
Im not saying the bible was stateing that due to the chernobyl incident the world would end. I feel the bible was stateing that chernobyl would be the beginning of the end, that an incident similar to chernobyl WILL destroy us.
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Chip Midnight
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04-07-2004 11:31
The bible also stated that the sky is an upside down metal bowl with holes cut in it for the water to come through.
If you were to write a cryptic verse today with vague references to geographical features, a plant name or two thrown in, and dire words about some sort of calamity, I guarantee that within 2000 years something will happen that seems to fit your prediction.
If the bible didn't try to scare the bejesus out of you would you feel the same incentive to be "saved?" It's a tactic that hasn't changed in 2000 years. The Bush administration uses it too. Want people to swear allegience to you? Convince them that they're doomed and only you can save them. Works like a charm.
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Taun Patel
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04-07-2004 11:59
1: It reminds me of a place in Connecticut that we aren't allowed to go, called Dudleytown. It wasn't radiation but lead that poisoned this place. The people of Dudleytown went insane and died because of the extreme levels of lead. The town is totally gone now but it lives in legend with the locals (and you can find some info on it by doing a Google search). A quick trip to Mapquest reveals Dudleytown but no roads going in, nothing around it. It's just dead. The thought that something like that could be nearby freaks me out, and I never even once thought of going there. I think this girl is incredibly brave. Throughout her account, seeing her so close to things that were literally radiating death I wanted to say "no! get out of there!" The cemetary especially speaks to me. It echoes of the Old West and the makeshift burials they would have to put together after being attacked. 1a: (since I totally didn't answer the question) the site made me feel not only horror and fear at such an event ever happening, and ever happening again (there is a nuclear plant within 50 miles of me, as well as the naval submarine base, all ships of which happen to be reactor-powered) but also a sense of loss for that area, the people, the gov't there, the economy. All those barges were just sitting there. They could have been loaded up with freight, oil, who knows? Oh. And i feel bad for the wild boars, since they are probably mutating as we speak. 2: The Bible connection that was drawn by Ryen is very eerie. This disaster definitely fits a lot of the description in the Bible verse, but I do not think it is a sign of the end of times. I think God knows we humans have some more growing up to do, and to do that we need to make mistakes. If you don't let a child prick his finger with a needle, he never knows that the needle is sharp. We learn from our mistakes, it's human. Infintely unfortunate disasters such as Chernobyl, 9/11, Hindenberg, Titanic, etc do lead to better, safer things. After Chernobyl, all nuclear sites were practically scrubbed raw of any problems to prevent such a horror from happening again. In the US, there were/are preventative measures that keep failures of this magnatude from happening, partly because of the partial meltdown of the Three Mile Island plant. Soviet laws did not require these provisions be in place. this link explains why Chernobyl happened. Anyway, I'm getting off the topic. While the circumstances around what happened at Chernobyl are frighteningly coincidental to what the Bible says will happen, we're still here. If God was going to destroy the world, I would think He would do it in a fashion that took far less time than at least 13 years to do it. Then again, it's been theorized that the Creation didn't happen in 6 days (and rest the 7th) but that the 6 days were periods in the creation of the universe and that creation took indeed billions/millions of years to come to pass. the 7th day could indeed be our era, and maybe the 8th day will be the demise of our world. Perhaps God will grow bored with watching His little ants in their ant farm known as Earth, but I do not think that day is today. Ryen, awesome philisophical debate you've started here, and the afterlife thread as well. You are much more multi-dimensional than I originally thought (running around with guns in Cordova)  Goes to show that people are so much more than what's on the surface, even in SL. TP
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Mac Beach
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04-07-2004 12:01
If any of you have a copy of The Orb album "Orblivion" 7th cut, named "S.A.L.T" covers this, as well as a few other things, with a rather clever ending that might even relate to something like SL (well, maybe).
The Orb of course rely heavily on dubbing sound bites from all over the place into something that remotely sounds like music, so I suspect the words are from a real speech given somewhere. I just listened for the amateurish drum solo at the end.
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Selador Cellardoor
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04-07-2004 14:41
To me, it is an insight into the religious mind when so many people feel they have found connexions between the Revelations account and the Chernobyl disaster.
<<REV 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; REV 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.>>
Ok. What or who was the third angel? The star from heaven sounds like a meteorite, but I don't think we've had any lately; particularly around the time of the Chernobyl accident.
The Revelations account seems to be indicating that much of the water of the earth became poisoned. Wormwood is used, because of its bitter taste, to signify the poison. "The name of the star is called Wormwood" is still referring to an asteroid, not an earthly phenomenon.
If an asteroid hit the earth and poisoned much of the water, I would think about nipping down the local church to pray for my sins. But in this account the only connection is that wormwood is mentioned, and Chernobyl, where there was a nuclear accident, means wormwood.
I would hardly call that a portent or even a coincidence.
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Kex Godel
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04-07-2004 15:49
What I wonder about is the part of the story where people said they saw the "glow" of the radiation.
I've always been told if you ever actually personally witnessed a radiation glow with your own eyes, then you're most likely less than a few hours from meeting your maker.
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Ryen Jade
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04-07-2004 17:24
I was also thinking about creating a chernobyl sim, simply to show the horrors of just what happened that day.
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Maxx Monde
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04-08-2004 06:28
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