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got to thinking about the recording industry and their quest to throw people in jail, I see it a different way. They should make it where no band release sucky music. Ever buy a cd and think. wow i really only like 3 songs on this cd and the rest royally sucks. To me if they wanna make up for people simply taking songs, or downloading them, swapping them with others, the musicians should focus on making good music instead of just 3 songs on the entire album that are worth talking about. I fell like I'm getting jipped when i get an album like that. So maybe they should throw the musicians in jail for producing lousy songs. I just don't see what the big deal is with file swapping, recodring movies from videotapes is the exact same thing, but noone is getting chased after for doing it.

Amen!

i think they reason if they spent the extra money to make the other songs well produced, they would make less money because if they spend X dollars in marketing, Y number of people are going to buy the cd regardless of quality or content.

Ok lemme get this strait...

On average there are 12 to 15 songs on one CD

round here average cost of a CD is approximately $12

SO if I use the 12 average and the montary twelve...

I should only actually have to pay $3 for the 3 songs I like right....so in essence I am donating the other 9 to a lost cause of usless banter songs that are of no use to me.

Sounds like typical marketing to me. To give em what they want make em take the crap too...LOL

As online legal downloading becomes more common you'll be able to buy just the songs you want. There are already two services out there doing this... are you using them? The record companies are going way overboard but what do you expect them to do? Should they just stand idly by while everyone robs them blind? I can't blame them for taking action. Somehow I don't think "I only like three of the songs" somehow makes stealing the whole cd okay. The big deal about file swapping is that it's THEFT!

And no, videotaping a show is not the same thing. That's covered under fair use (and you can bet they'll take that right away from us soon if people keep stealing like raving baghdad looters). If you took that video tape and made it available for free to everyone in the world that would be the same as file swapping. All the arguments trying to justify it make me laugh. They all boil down to people trying to justify their "right" to steal music. Not liking a law doesn't exempt you from it.

Sorry, I know you were trying to be funny. But I don't find trying to justify theft amusing.

Amen Chip.

While your opinion that the recording industry's lack to publish anything worth listening to may be amusing from afar, stealing it doesn't quite justify that.

Burning a CD you bought and giving it to your friend is ok. Giving it to your co-workers is alright too. Giving it to hundreds of people you don't know is not.

The anotmity of internet can be a blessing and a curse, and just because the artist have fancy clothes, giving the impression that he/she is rich as hell, remember: one can spend all their money on the window display and have nothing in the store.

I understand you were just kidding, but the opinion behind it is simply one I don't agree with.

gret to have a difference in opinion, I wouldn't want it or dont see it any other way. Glad to see people having different perspectives on things. THeft isn't amusing and that was not my posts intention. You must've read it or misinterpreted it, All I'm saying is paying 12 bucks for a cd that has 3 songs on it that's worth a crap is as much theft to the consumer as people stealing the music in your words. I'm in a metal band and we produce qualtiy music and pour our hearts into what we produce. Every one of our songs is great, not just 2 or 3. We are all music perfectionists and making it sound the way music should sound, from the heart is what making music is all about. Alot of bands choose just a few songs to make good and the rest they make lousy cause they know people will still buy it. To me that is where the contradictory of robbery takes a turn. Playing music like u don't care, is something any idiot can do, playing it right and making it sound right is an entirely different story. That to me is where the recording industry oversteps itself in a huge way.

That's what everyone says.

You proved my point for me. You say 2 or 3 of other people's songs are what you want, and you call that theft to the community. I see you're point, but when you say that everyone of your songs is great, don't you think that someone who may not like heavy metal, but does like 1 song of yours, may dissagree with you? Maybe even someone who likes heavy metal but doesn't like your band would disagree. Yes, in fact, they would! That's my point: to the band realeasing their album, every song is gold. YOU may like two or three songs on that album, but that doesn't mean you have the right to just take them, in my humble opinion.

Civily,
Darwin Appleby

I download massive amounts of music, but I have no delusions about it not being illegal or a theft.

I know what I risk. If they come for me I will do whatever they come up with... (they won't put us all in jail, 30,000,000 downloaders at least).

One thing I think they may be missing though is the powerful marketing that downloading music is.

I still go and buy a CD if I can afford it after i've heard a song or two from downloading it. I never would have done this if I hadn't been able to download the band and check it out first.

Also i've gone to multiple concerts that i wouldn't have if it weren't fore music i've downloaded.

so there is that factor that they may not be looking at.

JV

i know not all people like heavy metal, is absurd to say people do. All I mean is that, for people that only like heavy metal, will like our music and they do, If you dont like heavy metal why u gonna go around saying it sucks just cause you think it sucks? I never do this about other music i don't care for or like, I simply don't listen to it lol. All music has potential to sound great, but i can always tell when someone is out of key, music wise or vocal wise. It's just a matter of working out every part of a song to make it right instead of plopping down a bunch of racket and calling it a song. Whatever.

Okay, now this thread IS funny! It's funny to hear a musician who has so little respect for the value of other people's music. Let me know when your CD is out so I can go steal it. I'm not a big metal fan so I'd probably only like 2 or 3 of your songs. Oh, and I hope you don't mind but I intend to give copies of it away to everyone in the world so they won't have to pay for it. They shouldn't have to pay for your other 9 crappy songs. I mean really. What were you guys thinking with those? It's like you just slapped them together

Can you prove to me that every single person that purchaces your album enjoys every single song on it? I doubt they do. I think some people buy it for just one or two songs, and if they don't they pirate it. Unless you can prove me wrong...

And if you feel this way why don't you think that way for other heavy metal albums?

gosh dern you beat me. well said though

Being a Solo and Group musician, both independent, I realize the USEFULLNESS of P2P file sharing, however the way it is now has MAJOR FLAWS.

Thing is, I have no problem with bands releasing 1 or 2 maybe even 3 Tracks out free, for publick Distribution, however the problem comes when the WHOLE ALBUM, is made avaliable. For someone to say, "Only 1 or 2 tracks on the album are good" sure some albums are like that but I can name countless albums that are great from beginning to end.

Now I want you all to look at this from my perspective.

I am a FULL-TIME MUSICIAN, I do not have time to work a normal job, My love is music, and my desire is in music. I bust my rear 4-6 hours a day 3-4 days a week PRACTICING, then the other 3-4 days of the week, you know what I do? I play SHOWS, this is my whole well-being in life, I RELY ON MY TALENT, AND MY BAND MATES TALENT TO SURVIVE.

Sure i'm guilty of file swapping, I can't justify it, it's taking advantage of what is avaliable, however since I was turned down by SONY for my solo project, since i injured my back, can't perform, I looked at this situation, and decided to stop trading files.

So for some snot nosed punk to tell me that "I GANKED YOUR ALBUM CAUSE ONLY A FEW SONGS WERE GOOD, BUT I LISTEN TO IT ALL, I JUST CAN'T JUSTIFY PAYING MONEY FOR IT" makes me laugh.

You walk down this road I have taken and followed in my life, and tell me how you feel about it.

"Cut open my Veins, and you will see I bleed Music"

Malaer

i laugh at you all.

Which is funny because we're laughing right back at you

good glad we all think something is funny, personally i'd rather just forget this thread was even started. Alas.