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Loki Pico

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08-05-2005 23:06

I was searching for .mov files that I could play in SL and I came across this odd one. My question, is she real or computer generated? I am leaning to CG. But, if she is real, I think she sort of creeps me out. Click the video link below and watch, what do you think?

Kaya's Screen Test

I got no clue about the background of this, it just turned up in a random video search.

Jeffrey Gomez

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Join date: 11 Jun 2004

Posts: 3,522

08-05-2005 23:15

CG. The eyes and lighting are exaggerated, and many 3D folks are certainly that good.

The only way that could be real is if "she" dressed up in a rather fake-looking skin before the photo shoot and it was shot in an even faker-looking studio (by the reflections).

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Teeny Leviathan

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08-05-2005 23:15

CG. I have yet to see a CG human whose mouth moves naturally.

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Frostie Flora

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08-05-2005 23:16

She's a real beaute

I'm leaning more towards that she's CG, I got a keen eye, getting into a bit of CG work myself, once I get some more time and find the right programs heh,

if she was real though I would more or less likely have my mind break into 1000 peices,

again she's a Beaute haha,

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Misnomer Jones

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08-05-2005 23:25

CG, the mouth movement & mouth/speech mismatch gives it away

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08-05-2005 23:25

Oh, she's definitely CG. In fact, she's literally a text book example of character modeling. She's on the second page of color pics in "Visual Quickstart Guide, Maya 6 for Windows & Macintosh" by Danny Riddell and Adrian Dimond. Here's a scan:

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Cybin Monde

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easy, but scary..

08-06-2005 00:40

easily spotted as CG.. but what matters here is how believable she is.

imagine the day when we all can look this well in SL?!? or when these CG characters are given an advanced AI and control over their own animations and so forth.. there will come a day when we have no idea if what we're seeing is real or not. scary and exciting at the same time.

remember Running Man? or for the younger generation(s), S1m0ne?

SciFi almost always ends up as SciFact.. it's just a matter of time.

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cool video though

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Jeffrey Gomez

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08-06-2005 02:49

I'm still waiting for my VR Glasses to arrive.

Seriously though, Step One in that direction will be to move to using actual 3D models in Second Life. Cue broken record routine on my part.

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Loki Pico

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Join date: 20 Jun 2003

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08-06-2005 03:18

I figured it was CG, but it is eerie how perception can get distorted. I had the same thoughts about it as Cybin when he said, "there will come a day when we have no idea if what we're seeing is real or not".

The "wag the dog" stuff for politics already exists, but what will it be like in 20 years from now? With advances in CG and special effects, how are we to really believe anything we see as news? Is that quote I am seeing and hearing come out of his mouth authentic? Is that really him?

What about less paranoid uses for this technology? We already see it in use in the movies as entertainment, how far will that go? Will there be a time when there will be no need for an actual human actor? Market surveys could create the perfect movie stars and they could live forever, never needing to learn their lines or demanding pay increases. The job of stuntman will vanish as a profession.

How else will we see CGI routinely applied?

Madame Maracas

Not who you think I am...

Join date: 7 Jun 2004

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08-06-2005 04:13

Well if it were up to G. B. Shaw, the answer would be yes ("If the actors will merely speak the lines as written, I will guarantee the results" or soemthing to that effect). However, acting is much more subtle than that, and I don't see soemthing coming along all that soon that can handle the million characteristics that go into human interaction well enough to cover the "jes nes ce pas" of it all that makes it real and communicates emotion and intent.

If it were that simple, Ray Harryhausen's stop-motion monster roster would have also included more humanistic characters with emotional depth but they didn't. Yoda and other puppet/muppet/mariantte characters that seem to bridge that gap yet have humans directly or indirectly managing their motions, pacing and voice. Animation also has that human element in the process. I seriously doubt a computer would be fed the works of Shakespeare and out would pop Branaugh, Olivier, Gibson, Guinness, Richardson, et al.

I'm sure things will get better, much much better, but the human hand/mind/heart will need to be involved at a more essential level I'm sure. And even if this level is achieved, that a purely computer-driven character(s) are available, that's not going to supercede the NEED that actors have to perform. The reason folks act isn't that it needs to be done, they act because they need to do it. Now, stunts, that might make sense but maybe not. Those folks are probably also fulfilling a need they have too.

We'll see!

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08-06-2005 08:20

From: Loki Pico

I figured it was CG, but it is eerie how perception can get distorted. I had the same thoughts about it as Cybin when he said, "there will come a day when we have no idea if what we're seeing is real or not".

We're already there. Character animation is about the only area where you can usually (not always) spot CG. It comes down to skill of the animators and production budget, but we're already at the point where there are no technical limitations preventing CG from being idistinguishable from live action.

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Neehai Zapata

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08-06-2005 09:21

I am waiting for the day when there are no more human movie stars.

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Lianne Marten

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08-06-2005 10:37

From: Neehai Zapata

I am waiting for the day when there are no more human movie stars.

You could argue that day is already here...

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Garoad Kuroda

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08-06-2005 10:50

Clearly CG, but man that's not bad. I didn't think the sound was quite synced up though, something was wrong there.

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Kathmandu Gilman

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08-06-2005 18:00

CGI and not bad but lots of givaways. Mouth movement and the earrings had it pegged as CGI in the first 5 seconds. Earrings are swaying like they are in motor oil. Real earrings like that jiggle around like epileptic Chihuahua’s on a leash.

The skin doesn't have much subsurface scattering so it looks painted on and the shirt looks like plastic armor just to name a couple other flaws.

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Cybin Monde

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what i meant..

08-06-2005 22:51

i'm not talking about our life times.

when i suppose replacements and indistinguishable CG characters, i'm not thinking in terms of a short period of time.

i believe that in our lifetime we will see CG movie stars, and definitely stuntpeople, not sublimate humans for CG actors, but to join them. we will see CG characters that look and act real.. and contain an AI to rival the human mind, granted.. maybe not quite as developed as our minds in our,ifetime, but eventually.

we are not witnessing something that could merely replace us, we're witnessing the birth of TWO new lifeforms. two new species that are the inherent evolution of mankind. we are nature final result on Earth, but not the only result of life. we are creating a new lifeform in CG characters, that will eventually migrate to "robots". not that i expect this to happen in even our childrens' lifetimes, but simply as an eventuality.

and after that, we'll see androids. yup. seriously. once robot bodies are perfected to mimic humans well enough.. and after the consciousness of an AI imbued CG character is downloaded into said robot brain, we will eventually figure out how to download (or sustain the lifespan of) the human brain into a robot body.. thus, androids become a reality.

at this point, there will be two new evolutions of Homo Sapien. the human-equal robot and the human-powered android. we will no longer need stuntmen, as well as human astronauts to pioneer space travel.

i'll stop now before i melt my brain.. i'm not even close to sober right now (drinking will do that to you

), but i'll end with this...

when is suggest peering into the future of Second Life, i'm not talking anout 10 years down the road.. i'm suggesting, given an infinite time-line, what do you see?

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Cybin Monde

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by the way..

08-06-2005 23:01

did i mention (ok, so i know i didn't, but anyhoo..) that it was this thread that lead to my previous post?

i know, you're saying, "well duh, of course it did".. but wait, there's more... (darn it, i feel like The Quirk, lol..)

i was discussing with a friend that i love SL.. and that part of that reason is due to the conversations and debates that arise here. the intelligence and intelllectual degree at which these forums average is significantly higher than the averge MMO. i then went on to tell her about the "why" of that statement.. explaining this exact thread to her and how we can just as easily be found telling butt jokes as easily as we can be found discussing the future of human evolution due to the hand of our own creation.

i went on to theorize about everything mentioned in my last post (and more) due to the existance of both this thread and the community that we are.

Cheers SLers. Cheers to all of us and to the nature of pure humanity.

Sincerely,
Cybin Monde

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Arcadia Codesmith

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08-08-2005 08:13

From: Cybin Monde

Cheers SLers. Cheers to all of us and to the nature of pure humanity.

Yes, we're at least as brilliant as the average Star Trek convention

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Lance Mirabeau

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08-08-2005 15:18

100% sure CGI.

Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

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08-08-2005 17:13

Somebody has to say it...

man... she ugly too.

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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

Ghoti Nyak

καλλιστι

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08-09-2005 13:31

She even says she's CGI, the very first thing she says, "And, eh, even though I'm a digital woman..."

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Taco Rubio

also quite creepy

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08-09-2005 13:50

Real.

Chosen Few

Alpha Channel Slave

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08-09-2005 15:49

From: Taco Rubio

Real.

Please tell me you're kidding, Taco. You did see the Maya textbook page I posted with her on it, right?

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Garoad Kuroda

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08-09-2005 17:17

He's goofing off that's all.

I wasn't though.

She's nasty looking.

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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

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Loki Pico Registered User Join date: 20 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,938	08-05-2005 23:06 I was searching for .mov files that I could play in SL and I came across this odd one. My question, is she real or computer generated? I am leaning to CG. But, if she is real, I think she sort of creeps me out. Click the video link below and watch, what do you think? Kaya's Screen Test I got no clue about the background of this, it just turned up in a random video search.
Jeffrey Gomez Cubed™ Join date: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,522	08-05-2005 23:15 CG. The eyes and lighting are exaggerated, and many 3D folks are certainly that good. The only way that could be real is if "she" dressed up in a rather fake-looking skin before the photo shoot and it was shot in an even faker-looking studio (by the reflections). _____________________ ---
Teeny Leviathan Never started World War 3 Join date: 20 May 2003 Posts: 2,716	08-05-2005 23:15 CG. I have yet to see a CG human whose mouth moves naturally. _____________________ The Default Avatars were created by Linden Lab They evolved. They rebelled. There are many copies. And they have a plan.
Frostie Flora Dilly-Dally Shilly-Shally Join date: 27 May 2004 Posts: 526	08-05-2005 23:16 She's a real beaute I'm leaning more towards that she's CG, I got a keen eye, getting into a bit of CG work myself, once I get some more time and find the right programs heh, if she was real though I would more or less likely have my mind break into 1000 peices, again she's a Beaute haha, _____________________ (\ /) (o.o) (>< /_\|_\
Misnomer Jones 3 is the magic number Join date: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 1,800	08-05-2005 23:25 CG, the mouth movement & mouth/speech mismatch gives it away _____________________
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	08-05-2005 23:25 Oh, she's definitely CG. In fact, she's literally a text book example of character modeling. She's on the second page of color pics in "Visual Quickstart Guide, Maya 6 for Windows & Macintosh" by Danny Riddell and Adrian Dimond. Here's a scan: _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Cybin Monde Resident Moderator (?) Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,468	easy, but scary.. 08-06-2005 00:40 easily spotted as CG.. but what matters here is how believable she is. imagine the day when we all can look this well in SL?!? or when these CG characters are given an advanced AI and control over their own animations and so forth.. there will come a day when we have no idea if what we're seeing is real or not. scary and exciting at the same time. remember Running Man? or for the younger generation(s), S1m0ne? SciFi almost always ends up as SciFact.. it's just a matter of time. - cool video though _____________________ "We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it." - Philip Linden "There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971) SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
Jeffrey Gomez Cubed™ Join date: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,522	08-06-2005 02:49 I'm still waiting for my VR Glasses to arrive. Seriously though, Step One in that direction will be to move to using actual 3D models in Second Life. Cue broken record routine on my part. _____________________ ---
Loki Pico Registered User Join date: 20 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,938	08-06-2005 03:18 I figured it was CG, but it is eerie how perception can get distorted. I had the same thoughts about it as Cybin when he said, "there will come a day when we have no idea if what we're seeing is real or not". The "wag the dog" stuff for politics already exists, but what will it be like in 20 years from now? With advances in CG and special effects, how are we to really believe anything we see as news? Is that quote I am seeing and hearing come out of his mouth authentic? Is that really him? What about less paranoid uses for this technology? We already see it in use in the movies as entertainment, how far will that go? Will there be a time when there will be no need for an actual human actor? Market surveys could create the perfect movie stars and they could live forever, never needing to learn their lines or demanding pay increases. The job of stuntman will vanish as a profession. How else will we see CGI routinely applied?
Madame Maracas Not who you think I am... Join date: 7 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,953	08-06-2005 04:13 Well if it were up to G. B. Shaw, the answer would be yes ("If the actors will merely speak the lines as written, I will guarantee the results" or soemthing to that effect). However, acting is much more subtle than that, and I don't see soemthing coming along all that soon that can handle the million characteristics that go into human interaction well enough to cover the "jes nes ce pas" of it all that makes it real and communicates emotion and intent. If it were that simple, Ray Harryhausen's stop-motion monster roster would have also included more humanistic characters with emotional depth but they didn't. Yoda and other puppet/muppet/mariantte characters that seem to bridge that gap yet have humans directly or indirectly managing their motions, pacing and voice. Animation also has that human element in the process. I seriously doubt a computer would be fed the works of Shakespeare and out would pop Branaugh, Olivier, Gibson, Guinness, Richardson, et al. I'm sure things will get better, much much better, but the human hand/mind/heart will need to be involved at a more essential level I'm sure. And even if this level is achieved, that a purely computer-driven character(s) are available, that's not going to supercede the NEED that actors have to perform. The reason folks act isn't that it needs to be done, they act because they need to do it. Now, stunts, that might make sense but maybe not. Those folks are probably also fulfilling a need they have too. We'll see! _____________________ RadioRadio - http://radioradiosl.com M 6 Hobbes Abattoir T 7 Sezmra Svorag W 4 Brian Mason W 6 Moira Stern W 8 Nala Galatea Th 6 Chet Neurocam F 6 Vertigo Paris F 9 Madame Maracas S 5 Madame Maracas S 8 TriNala Su 6 Trinity Serpentine http://madamemaracas.wordpress.com - Madame Maracas Blaaagh Plurk - http://www.plurk.com/user/MadameMaracas
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	08-06-2005 08:20 From: Loki Pico I figured it was CG, but it is eerie how perception can get distorted. I had the same thoughts about it as Cybin when he said, "there will come a day when we have no idea if what we're seeing is real or not". We're already there. Character animation is about the only area where you can usually (not always) spot CG. It comes down to skill of the animators and production budget, but we're already at the point where there are no technical limitations preventing CG from being idistinguishable from live action. _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
Neehai Zapata Unofficial Parent Join date: 8 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,970	08-06-2005 09:21 I am waiting for the day when there are no more human movie stars. _____________________ Unofficial moderator and proud dysfunctional parent to over 1000 bastard children.
Lianne Marten Cheese Baron Join date: 6 May 2004 Posts: 2,192	08-06-2005 10:37 From: Neehai Zapata I am waiting for the day when there are no more human movie stars. You could argue that day is already here... _____________________
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	08-06-2005 10:50 Clearly CG, but man that's not bad. I didn't think the sound was quite synced up though, something was wrong there. _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Kathmandu Gilman Fearful Symmetry Baby! Join date: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1,418	08-06-2005 18:00 CGI and not bad but lots of givaways. Mouth movement and the earrings had it pegged as CGI in the first 5 seconds. Earrings are swaying like they are in motor oil. Real earrings like that jiggle around like epileptic Chihuahua’s on a leash. The skin doesn't have much subsurface scattering so it looks painted on and the shirt looks like plastic armor just to name a couple other flaws. _____________________ It may be true that the squeaky wheel gets the grease but it is also true that the squeaky wheel gets replaced at the first critical maintenance opportunity.
Cybin Monde Resident Moderator (?) Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,468	what i meant.. 08-06-2005 22:51 i'm not talking about our life times. when i suppose replacements and indistinguishable CG characters, i'm not thinking in terms of a short period of time. i believe that in our lifetime we will see CG movie stars, and definitely stuntpeople, not sublimate humans for CG actors, but to join them. we will see CG characters that look and act real.. and contain an AI to rival the human mind, granted.. maybe not quite as developed as our minds in our,ifetime, but eventually. we are not witnessing something that could merely replace us, we're witnessing the birth of TWO new lifeforms. two new species that are the inherent evolution of mankind. we are nature final result on Earth, but not the only result of life. we are creating a new lifeform in CG characters, that will eventually migrate to "robots". not that i expect this to happen in even our childrens' lifetimes, but simply as an eventuality. and after that, we'll see androids. yup. seriously. once robot bodies are perfected to mimic humans well enough.. and after the consciousness of an AI imbued CG character is downloaded into said robot brain, we will eventually figure out how to download (or sustain the lifespan of) the human brain into a robot body.. thus, androids become a reality. at this point, there will be two new evolutions of Homo Sapien. the human-equal robot and the human-powered android. we will no longer need stuntmen, as well as human astronauts to pioneer space travel. i'll stop now before i melt my brain.. i'm not even close to sober right now (drinking will do that to you ), but i'll end with this... when is suggest peering into the future of Second Life, i'm not talking anout 10 years down the road.. i'm suggesting, given an infinite time-line, what do you see? _____________________ "We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it." - Philip Linden "There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971) SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
Cybin Monde Resident Moderator (?) Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,468	by the way.. 08-06-2005 23:01 did i mention (ok, so i know i didn't, but anyhoo..) that it was this thread that lead to my previous post? i know, you're saying, "well duh, of course it did".. but wait, there's more... (darn it, i feel like The Quirk, lol..) i was discussing with a friend that i love SL.. and that part of that reason is due to the conversations and debates that arise here. the intelligence and intelllectual degree at which these forums average is significantly higher than the averge MMO. i then went on to tell her about the "why" of that statement.. explaining this exact thread to her and how we can just as easily be found telling butt jokes as easily as we can be found discussing the future of human evolution due to the hand of our own creation. i went on to theorize about everything mentioned in my last post (and more) due to the existance of both this thread and the community that we are. Cheers SLers. Cheers to all of us and to the nature of pure humanity. Sincerely, Cybin Monde _____________________ "We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it." - Philip Linden "There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971) SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
Arcadia Codesmith Not a guest Join date: 8 Dec 2004 Posts: 766	08-08-2005 08:13 From: Cybin Monde Cheers SLers. Cheers to all of us and to the nature of pure humanity. Yes, we're at least as brilliant as the average Star Trek convention _____________________ "I like you better when you start pretending to be the person you want to be" - David Thomas
Lance Mirabeau Pees in the shower Join date: 23 Jul 2005 Posts: 108	08-08-2005 15:18 100% sure CGI.
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	08-08-2005 17:13 Somebody has to say it... man... she ugly too. _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	08-09-2005 13:31 She even says she's CGI, the very first thing she says, "And, eh, even though I'm a digital woman..." -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Taco Rubio also quite creepy Join date: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 3,349	08-09-2005 13:50 Real.
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	08-09-2005 15:49 From: Taco Rubio Real. Please tell me you're kidding, Taco. You did see the Maya textbook page I posted with her on it, right? _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	08-09-2005 17:17 He's goofing off that's all. I wasn't though. She's nasty looking. _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!