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07-01-2005 08:16

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O'Connor serves as a moderating influence and a bridge on a court that is divided along ideological lines. If an immoderate justice replaces her, the dynamics of the court could get ugly.

It throws a curve at all the groups on both sides who were gearing up for battle when Rhenquist retires.

Bush could surprise everyone and nominate another moderate conservative to replace O'Conner; a well-respected jurist more interested in the law than grinding partisan axes. Such a nominee could win quick approval with a minimum of acrimony and political posturing.

Any bets on that actually happening?

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07-01-2005 08:20

Bush will nominate a hardcore anti-abortion pro-funademantalism christian partisan. When Rhenquist goes in the next year or so he'll nominate another one.

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07-01-2005 08:27

*agrees with Chip* Unfortunately.

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07-01-2005 08:29

Pardon me while I weep silently and pray for Justice, a concept which is now terminally ill.

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07-01-2005 08:30

Heh. Ardith, I was trying to figure out the easiest route to Canada for when both of them are gone and we have new Bush candidates in their places.

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07-01-2005 08:43

From: Katja Marlowe

Heh. Ardith, I was trying to figure out the easiest route to Canada for when both of them are gone and we have new Bush candidates in their places.

I'm not sure it's quite that dire yet. While Rehnquist is a pragmatist willing to listen to reason, he also leans pretty far right. I'm not sure replacing him with another right-winger means any real change in the status quo. Losing O'Connor's moderate seat hurts more, but with Kennedy as a moderate swing vote, neither conservatives nor liberals would have an unassailable majority.

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07-01-2005 08:52

From: Arcadia Codesmith

Bush could surprise everyone and nominate another moderate conservative to replace O'Conner; a well-respected jurist more interested in the law than grinding partisan axes. Such a nominee could win quick approval with a minimum of acrimony and political posturing.

Monkeys could also fly outta my butt

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07-01-2005 09:01

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Monkeys could also fly outta my butt

I know, I know. It's not likely this is going to turn out well.

But stranger things have happened.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a certain ritual to prepare...

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07-01-2005 09:19

Wow - I'm so sad to see this, of all the Justices; I admired and respected her the most. With regard to who will be appointed to take her place, unfortunately, I agree with Chip. The right wing fundamentalists have been salivating for just such an opportunity and I doubt that Bush will disappoint them. Particularly with his ratings so low.

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07-01-2005 09:20

*grins* I know it won't be as dire as I said. And probably even if it was, I'd feel the need to stay where I am to be a dissenting voice no matter the consequence. But it's nice to dream eh?

(see, practicing those ehs)

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07-01-2005 10:13

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Wow - I'm so sad to see this, of all the Justices; I admired and respected her the most. With regard to who will be appointed to take her place, unfortunately, I agree with Chip. The right wing fundamentalists have been salivating for just such an opportunity and I doubt that Bush will disappoint them. Particularly with his ratings so low.

Hmmm. Do you think his rating would gain a boost from nominating a polarizing Justice? Personally, considering that Bush actually wants to get things *done* this term, I would think he'd be smart enough to nominate a moderate candidate for O'Connor. If he tries to pack the Court with right-wingers, just watch as the Congress slows down to a crawl while the political war rages over it.

Of course, bullies are not known for their diplomacy...

And this particular bully does seem fond of war.

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07-01-2005 10:33

http://www.draftprado.com/

Prado is a moderate that Bush and the rest of the Republicans could place on the bench and not suffer for doing so.

He is a true moderate man of the law.

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07-01-2005 11:12

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Hmmm. Do you think his rating would gain a boost from nominating a polarizing Justice?

This is the guy who nominated Bolton for the UN and appointed Wolfowitz to the World Bank

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07-01-2005 11:22

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Prado is a moderate that Bush and the rest of the Republicans could place on the bench and not suffer for doing so.

He is a true moderate man of the law.

He's... interesting. I found this quote on Independent Judiciary:

From: someone

During the high-profile murder trial of Allen Blackthorne, a wealthy businessman charged with hiring a hitman to kill his ex-wife, Judge Prado turned on a CD player and blasted a song entitled "Appointed Forever" (to the tune of "Happy Together"

from 29 courtroom speakers:

Imagine me as God, I do
I was appointed by the president
Appointed forever
My decisions cannot be questioned by you
I'm always right. 30

While I do like a sense of humor in my public officials, maybe a murder trial isn't the best time?

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07-01-2005 11:31

From: Arcadia Codesmith

While I do like a sense of humor in my public officials, maybe a murder trial isn't the best time?

Personally, I think murder trials need more humor in them. Maybe we could have a Court Jester who makes fun of the DA behind his back.

I do think his message was appropriate. In an age of people who think they can push things thru the law based solely on their fame, it's nice to know there are judges who will forcibly remind such people that they are not intimidated by their celebrity, money, or status.

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07-01-2005 13:30

I doubt the cout can be any worse than it has been for the past 30 years or so.

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Editorial Hare Second Life Resident Join date: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 116	07-01-2005 07:45 AP Link CNN Link _____________________ Please see my alternate account disclaimer here The world tolerates conceit from those who are successful, but not from anybody else. - John Blake
Arcadia Codesmith Not a guest Join date: 8 Dec 2004 Posts: 766	07-01-2005 08:16 From: Editorial Hare AP Link CNN Link O'Connor serves as a moderating influence and a bridge on a court that is divided along ideological lines. If an immoderate justice replaces her, the dynamics of the court could get ugly. It throws a curve at all the groups on both sides who were gearing up for battle when Rhenquist retires. Bush could surprise everyone and nominate another moderate conservative to replace O'Conner; a well-respected jurist more interested in the law than grinding partisan axes. Such a nominee could win quick approval with a minimum of acrimony and political posturing. Any bets on that actually happening?
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	07-01-2005 08:20 Bush will nominate a hardcore anti-abortion pro-funademantalism christian partisan. When Rhenquist goes in the next year or so he'll nominate another one. _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
Katja Marlowe Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 421	07-01-2005 08:27 agrees with Chip Unfortunately.
Ardith Mifflin Mecha Fiend Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,416	07-01-2005 08:29 Pardon me while I weep silently and pray for Justice, a concept which is now terminally ill.
Katja Marlowe Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 421	07-01-2005 08:30 Heh. Ardith, I was trying to figure out the easiest route to Canada for when both of them are gone and we have new Bush candidates in their places.
Arcadia Codesmith Not a guest Join date: 8 Dec 2004 Posts: 766	07-01-2005 08:43 From: Katja Marlowe Heh. Ardith, I was trying to figure out the easiest route to Canada for when both of them are gone and we have new Bush candidates in their places. I'm not sure it's quite that dire yet. While Rehnquist is a pragmatist willing to listen to reason, he also leans pretty far right. I'm not sure replacing him with another right-winger means any real change in the status quo. Losing O'Connor's moderate seat hurts more, but with Kennedy as a moderate swing vote, neither conservatives nor liberals would have an unassailable majority.
Red Mars What? Join date: 5 Feb 2004 Posts: 469	07-01-2005 08:52 From: Arcadia Codesmith Bush could surprise everyone and nominate another moderate conservative to replace O'Conner; a well-respected jurist more interested in the law than grinding partisan axes. Such a nominee could win quick approval with a minimum of acrimony and political posturing. Monkeys could also fly outta my butt _____________________
Arcadia Codesmith Not a guest Join date: 8 Dec 2004 Posts: 766	07-01-2005 09:01 From: Red Mars Monkeys could also fly outta my butt I know, I know. It's not likely this is going to turn out well. But stranger things have happened. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a certain ritual to prepare...
Rose Karuna Lizard Doctor Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,772	07-01-2005 09:19 Wow - I'm so sad to see this, of all the Justices; I admired and respected her the most. With regard to who will be appointed to take her place, unfortunately, I agree with Chip. The right wing fundamentalists have been salivating for just such an opportunity and I doubt that Bush will disappoint them. Particularly with his ratings so low. _____________________ I Do Whatever My Rice Krispies Tell Me To
Katja Marlowe Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 421	07-01-2005 09:20 grins I know it won't be as dire as I said. And probably even if it was, I'd feel the need to stay where I am to be a dissenting voice no matter the consequence. But it's nice to dream eh? (see, practicing those ehs)
Liona Clio Angel in Disguise Join date: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 1,500	07-01-2005 10:13 From: Rose Karuna Wow - I'm so sad to see this, of all the Justices; I admired and respected her the most. With regard to who will be appointed to take her place, unfortunately, I agree with Chip. The right wing fundamentalists have been salivating for just such an opportunity and I doubt that Bush will disappoint them. Particularly with his ratings so low. Hmmm. Do you think his rating would gain a boost from nominating a polarizing Justice? Personally, considering that Bush actually wants to get things done this term, I would think he'd be smart enough to nominate a moderate candidate for O'Connor. If he tries to pack the Court with right-wingers, just watch as the Congress slows down to a crawl while the political war rages over it. Of course, bullies are not known for their diplomacy... And this particular bully does seem fond of war. _____________________ "Well, my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle."
Neehai Zapata Unofficial Parent Join date: 8 Apr 2004 Posts: 1,970	07-01-2005 10:33 http://www.draftprado.com/ Prado is a moderate that Bush and the rest of the Republicans could place on the bench and not suffer for doing so. He is a true moderate man of the law. _____________________ Unofficial moderator and proud dysfunctional parent to over 1000 bastard children.
Chip Midnight ate my baby! Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 10,231	07-01-2005 11:12 From: Liona Clio Hmmm. Do you think his rating would gain a boost from nominating a polarizing Justice? This is the guy who nominated Bolton for the UN and appointed Wolfowitz to the World Bank _____________________ My other hobby: www.live365.com/stations/chip_midnight
Arcadia Codesmith Not a guest Join date: 8 Dec 2004 Posts: 766	07-01-2005 11:22 From: Neehai Zapata http://www.draftprado.com/ Prado is a moderate that Bush and the rest of the Republicans could place on the bench and not suffer for doing so. He is a true moderate man of the law. He's... interesting. I found this quote on Independent Judiciary: From: someone During the high-profile murder trial of Allen Blackthorne, a wealthy businessman charged with hiring a hitman to kill his ex-wife, Judge Prado turned on a CD player and blasted a song entitled "Appointed Forever" (to the tune of "Happy Together" from 29 courtroom speakers: Imagine me as God, I do I was appointed by the president Appointed forever My decisions cannot be questioned by you I'm always right. 30 While I do like a sense of humor in my public officials, maybe a murder trial isn't the best time?
Liona Clio Angel in Disguise Join date: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 1,500	07-01-2005 11:31 From: Arcadia Codesmith While I do like a sense of humor in my public officials, maybe a murder trial isn't the best time? Personally, I think murder trials need more humor in them. Maybe we could have a Court Jester who makes fun of the DA behind his back. I do think his message was appropriate. In an age of people who think they can push things thru the law based solely on their fame, it's nice to know there are judges who will forcibly remind such people that they are not intimidated by their celebrity, money, or status. _____________________ "Well, my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle."
Eboni Khan Misanthrope Join date: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 2,133	07-01-2005 13:30 I doubt the cout can be any worse than it has been for the past 30 years or so. _____________________

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