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Jon Marlin

Builder, Coder, RL & SL

Join date: 10 Mar 2005

Posts: 297

07-27-2005 13:26

http://secondage.blogsome.com/

From: someone

...associating with adults on the teen grid is BAD NEWS.

How is it possible for this to even happen?

- Jon

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Lash Xevious

Gooberly

Join date: 8 May 2004

Posts: 1,348

07-27-2005 16:02

Dunno either, but I'm most intrigued by the Babbage Linden person. He/she makes techno music? Into cyberpunk?! Coolest Linden since Cory? Who is Cory? But oh well. Must be fun to have a grid that's still small townsy compared to ours.

Beau Perkins

Second Life Resident.

Join date: 25 Dec 2003

Posts: 1,061

07-27-2005 17:11

Jon, by that short little Linden message. It really seems like no one would have enough knowledge about this to have an opinion of value. There is no way any of us know the facts.

Just like banning on the main grid, most the times there are facts not being told. I would have to guess the majority of the time the people really do know full well why they were banned.

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Cristiano Midnight

Evil Snapshot Baron

Join date: 17 May 2003

Posts: 8,616

07-27-2005 17:16

I agree with what Beau said - there is too little to go on to know what really happened. The one thing I do know is that a TOS violation that is possible to get banned for is the use of keys to communicate between grids via script. The main and teen grid share the same asset server. This may have nothing to do with this situation, just offering it as a potential scenario of what might have happened.

PS - that techno creating happy Linden seems a bit familiar...

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Schwanson Schlegel

SL's Tokin' Villain

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 2,721

07-27-2005 17:28

From: Cristiano Midnight

PS - that techno creating happy Linden seems a bit familiar...

/me throws a watermelon at Cris.

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Roberta Dalek

Probably trouble

Join date: 21 Oct 2004

Posts: 1,174

07-27-2005 17:37

From: Cristiano Midnight

I agree with what Beau said - there is too little to go on to know what really happened. The one thing I do know is that a TOS violation that is possible to get banned for is the use of keys to communicate between grids via script. The main and teen grid share the same asset server. This may have nothing to do with this situation, just offering it as a potential scenario of what might have happened.
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If they share the same asset server then wouldn't MG keys work in the TG and vice versa? As they have content vetting I presume this isn't possible.

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Pendari Lorentz

Senior Member

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 4,372

07-27-2005 17:43

From: Cristiano Midnight

PS - that techno creating happy Linden seems a bit familiar...

Gadz! I'm glad I"m not the only one that had wheels spinning off that description!

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Adam Zaius

Deus

Join date: 9 Jan 2004

Posts: 1,483

07-27-2005 17:51

From: Roberta Dalek

If they share the same asset server then wouldn't MG keys work in the TG and vice versa? As they have content vetting I presume this isn't possible.

I believe they share the same asset and DB servers; but LL logs all communication between TG and MG users, so LL will respond 'hard and fast'.

-Adam

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Jesrad Seraph

Nonsense

Join date: 11 Dec 2004

Posts: 1,463

07-28-2005 02:04

I don't think they can log everything that goes between the two. I could use an email relay for communication between two prims on seperate grids, for example. That's just one method, also think about a cross-grid Nexcom: can LL monitor all XML-RPC communications and check if the same data sent through one connection goes back in the other grid through another ? And even then it could be encrypted on a per session-basis.

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Catherine Cotton

Tis Elfin

Join date: 2 Apr 2003

Posts: 3,001

07-28-2005 02:45

rent o matics lol no comment on the rest.

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Leb Raven

Registered User

Join date: 7 Jun 2005

Posts: 6

07-28-2005 04:39

He was approached by someone he believed to be under 18, but turned out to be an adult. Unfortunately, the wording of the conversation means that he could have meant one of two things.

I'm his father, I should know

Or at least I SHOULD, I don't think he tells me everything. Keep reading his blog, it shocks me how much more mature he is than me 0_0

Ghoti Nyak

καλλιστι

Join date: 7 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,078

07-28-2005 05:58

Name2Key database coming back to bite LL on the ass? Hmmm who would have guessed.

-Ghoti

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Weird stuff in the TG
Jon Marlin Builder, Coder, RL & SL Join date: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 297	07-27-2005 13:26 http://secondage.blogsome.com/ From: someone ...associating with adults on the teen grid is BAD NEWS. How is it possible for this to even happen? - Jon _____________________ Come visit Marlin Engineering at Horseshoe (222, 26) to see my line of flying vehicles.
Lash Xevious Gooberly Join date: 8 May 2004 Posts: 1,348	07-27-2005 16:02 Dunno either, but I'm most intrigued by the Babbage Linden person. He/she makes techno music? Into cyberpunk?! Coolest Linden since Cory? Who is Cory? But oh well. Must be fun to have a grid that's still small townsy compared to ours.
Beau Perkins Second Life Resident. Join date: 25 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,061	07-27-2005 17:11 Jon, by that short little Linden message. It really seems like no one would have enough knowledge about this to have an opinion of value. There is no way any of us know the facts. Just like banning on the main grid, most the times there are facts not being told. I would have to guess the majority of the time the people really do know full well why they were banned. _____________________
Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616	07-27-2005 17:16 I agree with what Beau said - there is too little to go on to know what really happened. The one thing I do know is that a TOS violation that is possible to get banned for is the use of keys to communicate between grids via script. The main and teen grid share the same asset server. This may have nothing to do with this situation, just offering it as a potential scenario of what might have happened. PS - that techno creating happy Linden seems a bit familiar... _____________________ Cristiano ANOmations - huge selection of high quality, low priced animations all $100L or less. ~SLUniverse.com~ SL's oldest and largest community site, featuring Snapzilla image sharing, forums, and much more.
Schwanson Schlegel SL's Tokin' Villain Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,721	07-27-2005 17:28 From: Cristiano Midnight PS - that techno creating happy Linden seems a bit familiar... /me throws a watermelon at Cris. _____________________
Roberta Dalek Probably trouble Join date: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 1,174	07-27-2005 17:37 From: Cristiano Midnight I agree with what Beau said - there is too little to go on to know what really happened. The one thing I do know is that a TOS violation that is possible to get banned for is the use of keys to communicate between grids via script. The main and teen grid share the same asset server. This may have nothing to do with this situation, just offering it as a potential scenario of what might have happened. . If they share the same asset server then wouldn't MG keys work in the TG and vice versa? As they have content vetting I presume this isn't possible. _____________________ See my stuff on SL Boutique!
Pendari Lorentz Senior Member Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,372	07-27-2005 17:43 From: Cristiano Midnight PS - that techno creating happy Linden seems a bit familiar... Gadz! I'm glad I"m not the only one that had wheels spinning off that description! _____________________ hugs everyone
Adam Zaius Deus Join date: 9 Jan 2004 Posts: 1,483	07-27-2005 17:51 From: Roberta Dalek If they share the same asset server then wouldn't MG keys work in the TG and vice versa? As they have content vetting I presume this isn't possible. I believe they share the same asset and DB servers; but LL logs all communication between TG and MG users, so LL will respond 'hard and fast'. -Adam _____________________ Co-Founder / Lead Developer GigasSecondServer
Jesrad Seraph Nonsense Join date: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,463	07-28-2005 02:04 I don't think they can log everything that goes between the two. I could use an email relay for communication between two prims on seperate grids, for example. That's just one method, also think about a cross-grid Nexcom: can LL monitor all XML-RPC communications and check if the same data sent through one connection goes back in the other grid through another ? And even then it could be encrypted on a per session-basis. _____________________ Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
Catherine Cotton Tis Elfin Join date: 2 Apr 2003 Posts: 3,001	07-28-2005 02:45 rent o matics lol no comment on the rest. _____________________
Leb Raven Registered User Join date: 7 Jun 2005 Posts: 6	07-28-2005 04:39 He was approached by someone he believed to be under 18, but turned out to be an adult. Unfortunately, the wording of the conversation means that he could have meant one of two things. I'm his father, I should know Or at least I SHOULD, I don't think he tells me everything. Keep reading his blog, it shocks me how much more mature he is than me 0_0
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	07-28-2005 05:58 Name2Key database coming back to bite LL on the ass? Hmmm who would have guessed. -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft

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