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Lance LeFay
is a Thug
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 1,488
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04-21-2004 04:47
Post about neg rates here. Your threads take up too much space otherwise ;P
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Tony Tigereye
Registered User
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
Posts: 165
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04-24-2004 16:28
I'd like to suggest neg rating Kasandra Morgan for using an exploit in one of my gaming machines to drain my bank account of over $80,000 and then telling me she spent all of my money and won't be paying me back.
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Kasandra Morgan
Self-Declared Goddess
Join date: 17 Mar 2004
Posts: 639
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Neg Rate Away, but at least know what happened
04-24-2004 16:51
I was in Tony's casino and I realized that on a game where the odds lowered with each amount if I paid 5k I would win the 10k prize, and I did this. Only thing is after I won the odds didn't reset. So I stood there starting at it, 10k for $50. I am not an immoral person, so I tried telling a Linden. It was explained to me that casino games are an "at your own risk" venture and they would do nothing. So I decided to take the money and hold it until he came back online. I sent him and IM telling him about the game and waited.
A day passed, no Tony.
Two days, no Tony.
Day three, I decide to go to a casino because I am bored, not to play his money, but my own. Well, as most casino owners in SL know, I shouldn't gamble. Heck, I had lost 15k to Tony before any of this ever happened so he should know I have a bit of a compulsion problem. Well, on day three I lost almost all of both our money.
As I was at casino number 436 losing the little I had left, the owner of that casino asked me if I wanted to run Omega Games. Well, I was told that casino owners make at least 5k a day and I believed that considering how much I play and who else can I go by? So I held events and gave away 25k that I had to purchase with RL money. I did not make 5k that day or any day since. I just don't make enough to pay him back and support myself. I offered to spend all my birthday money on Linden (my birthday is in 5 days) and give him 40L but he threw that in my face because its not all I owe him.
I don't owe him anything, I know what I did wasn't the right thing to do by far. But he is the one that scripted the game, he is the one that opened a casino. This is only half my fault. Had he taken simple precautions like:
1. Checking the game to make sure it worked right in the first place, had he done this the Lindens would have refunded his money because the loss would not be his fault.
2. Put a max payout on the game, that way after you reach a certain amount the game shuts down before you lose all your money.
3. Put a chunk of his money on a basic account.
And as a casino owner that can't script I have had that happen to me. And no it was not fun, but I didn't ask for my money back and I definitely didn't try blacklisting the person. I just smiled and fixed my game then whined to my friends about all the money I just lost. Sure, I didn't lose nearly as much as you did, but I took precautions 1 and 2.
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Eggy Lippmann
Wiktator
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 7,939
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04-24-2004 17:10
Hmm well this is a little different from the story you told me Tony. If it really was your code that was broken and not some exploit then I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for you. I've lost a lot of money on broken games before and I didn't whine about it. I banged my head on the wall and fixed my code. Of course if I was the one who found a game where the odds were unusually favorable, I wouldn't drain your account, I would just get the nearest linden and have your game deactivated.
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Chromal Brodsky
ExperimentalMetaphysicist
Join date: 24 Feb 2004
Posts: 243
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Re: Neg Rate Away, but at least know what happened
04-24-2004 17:11
From: someone Originally posted by Kasandra Morgan I don't owe him anything, I know what I did wasn't the right thing to do by far. But he is the one that scripted the game, he is the one that opened a casino. This is only half my fault.
Well, Kasandra, there are no ToS rules against your conduct. So, in "legal" terms you are in the clear. Kind of like driving down a road really fast on a cold February day, seeing an old lady standing near a large puddle with her grandchildren, and swerving out of your way to splash water all over them. Yeah, you didn't break any rules. Just don't be surprised if everyone thinks you acted like an ass anyway. Maybe you need to consider adding some personal rules of conduct.
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Kasandra Morgan
Self-Declared Goddess
Join date: 17 Mar 2004
Posts: 639
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04-24-2004 17:36
Eggy, I did contact the nearest Linden and tried to get them to turn off the game, they wouldn't. I was gonna rezz a block over it so no one would play it and take all his money, couldn't rezz objects. My finally solution was to hold it for him.
And Chrom you are right, that was quite possibly the most unethical thing I have ever done on a game. That is why I offered to give him my birthday money to make up for half of it. But I know I can't pay him back on a payment plan because I can't keep money. In real life the nearest casino is in another state and I have no car. But here they are a tp away, I have already cleaned out my savings for the semester. I am flat broke in RL and SL and while I am not proud of my actions, I am not spending everyday trying to earn this 80k.
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Tony Tigereye
Registered User
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
Posts: 165
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04-24-2004 19:07
Just for the record, Eggy, i am not seeking sympathy. i don't need it, nor do i expect it. i'm just bringing to light what kind a person Kasandra is so that others may be warned before entering into any kind of deals with her.
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