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GENEVA Conventions to be rewritten?

paulie Femto
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04-04-2006 11:45
GENEVA Conventions to be rewritten to be more "torture friendly?"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=5TJBUQF5LLY3XQFIQMGSFFWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2006/04/04/ngeneva04.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/04/ixnewstop.html

discuss.

And, since this is coming from the UK, let me add this prophetic lyric from our English friends, PINK FLOYD:

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Floating down, through the clouds,
memories come rushing up to meet me now.
And in the space between the heavens and the corner of some foreign field,
I had a dream. I had a dream:

A place to live. Enough to eat.
Somewhere old heroes shuffle safely down the street.

Where you can speak out loud about your doubts and fears.
And whats more, no one ever disappears,
you never hear their standard issue kicking down your door.

You can relax, on both sides of the tracks. And maniacs dont blow holes
in bandsmen by remote control.

And everyone has recourse to the law.
And no one kills the children anymore.
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Goodnight, England. Goodnight Home Service and V for Victory.
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Lecktor Hannibal
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04-04-2006 12:01
I think they should just be canned. I mean we're the only ones playing.
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Dianne Mechanique
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04-04-2006 12:06
From: Lecktor Hannibal
I think they should just be canned. I mean we're the only ones playing.
You have to be joking, your talking about the USA?
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Siobhan Taylor
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04-04-2006 12:08
From: Dianne Mechanique
You have to be joking, your talking about the USA?
USA and UK I think, from the article.
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Selador Cellardoor
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04-04-2006 12:19
What an utter wanker!

What I find astonishing is how blind some politicians are to the lessons of history.
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04-04-2006 12:25
From: Selador Cellardoor
What an utter wanker!

What I find astonishing is how blind some politicians are to the lessons of history.
While I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment Selador, I don't find it in the least bit astonishing. It's exactly how I expected our wonderful government to act. They should be pulled up before a war crimes tribunal for even thinking it though.
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Lecktor Hannibal
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04-04-2006 12:29
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You have to be joking, your talking about the USA?

No I'm not joking. As a disabled Vet of this current fiasco I am telling you the USA and UK are the only people who even remotely play by the rules set out in Geneva Convention. This is all I intend to say on the matter.
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Siobhan Taylor
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04-04-2006 12:37
From: Lecktor Hannibal
No I'm not joking. As a disabled Vet of this current fiasco I am telling you the USA and UK are the only people who even remotely play by the rules set out in Geneva Convention. This is all I intend to say on the matter.
And even those two don't really... apart from "lip service". But even if we're the only ones even looking at the Geneva convention, that's no reason to get rid of it. In the end, it's what seperates the goodies from the badies.
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Lecktor Hannibal
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04-04-2006 12:46
From: Siobhan Taylor
And even those two don't really... apart from "lip service". But even if we're the only ones even looking at the Geneva convention, that's no reason to get rid of it. In the end, it's what seperates the goodies from the badies.

I'll remind you that all of those charged in the Abu Ghraib scandal are currently serving time. Is that 'lip service'? I know I said I wouldn't comment further, but being a combat veteran of 3 different conflicts rather gives me an inside perspective.
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04-04-2006 12:51
From: Lecktor Hannibal
I'll remind you that all of those charged in the Abu Ghraib scandal are currently serving time. Is that 'lip service'? I know I said I wouldn't comment further, but being a combat veteran of 3 different conflicts rather gives me an inside perspective.


I'll still totally kick you ass. :D
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Lecktor Hannibal
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04-04-2006 12:53
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I'll still totally kick you ass. :D

WTG, picking a fight with a disabled veteran! Douche :mad:

:p
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04-04-2006 12:53
I'll readily agree that not many countries that do go to war, do pay any attention to the geneva conventions.

But before canning it outright, a viable alternative should be agreed upon.
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04-04-2006 12:54
:D
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Siobhan Taylor
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04-04-2006 12:56
From: Lecktor Hannibal
I'll remind you that all of those charged in the Abu Ghraib scandal are currently serving time. Is that 'lip service'?
Yes. They should be serving time, but that was just one thing amongst many. I know there are a lot of good people out there fighting, so I don't mean to disrespect them... but amongst the good are a lot of bad apples too. And let's face it, it's our governments that are the worst of the lot.
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04-04-2006 13:38
From: Lecktor Hannibal
WTG, picking a fight with a disabled veteran! Douche :mad:

:p
Depends on *just* how disabled, eh? :p


(Yes, I know Leck could probably make me crumble with a mean look in RL if he chose to, so thems ain't fighting words)
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04-04-2006 13:40
From: Siobhan Taylor
Yes. They should be serving time, but that was just one thing amongst many. I know there are a lot of good people out there fighting, so I don't mean to disrespect them... but amongst the good are a lot of bad apples too. And let's face it, it's our governments that are the worst of the lot.

And they should be serving time right along next to that lot. Instead they get interviews on Geraldo about how disserviced they were by being relieved of command etc etc.
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04-04-2006 13:41
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Depends on *just* how disabled, eh? :p


(Yes, I know Leck could probably make me crumble with a mean look in RL if he chose to, so thems ain't fighting words)

LMAO :D
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04-04-2006 13:41
From: Lecktor Hannibal
And they should be serving time right along next to that lot. Instead they get interviews on Geraldo about how disserviced they were by being relieved of command etc etc.
Agreed, 100% ...
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