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Anna Bobbysocks

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01-30-2006 02:17

http://www.crystalrender.com/

You'll probably want to use OGLE for this

Reitsuki Kojima

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01-30-2006 02:49

Gah.

Now I have to actually dig up a 3D package though to clean up my avatar...

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Gladius Luchador

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01-30-2006 02:53

Cool!

What's OGLE, and how does one take their avatar and create a 3d file with it?

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Anna Bobbysocks

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01-30-2006 03:11

http://ogle.eyebeamresearch.org/

Anna Bobbysocks

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01-30-2006 03:24

Interesting markup:

http://www.lasercrystalworks.com/crystal.htm

VOLUME DISCOUNTS

20 units
-20%
50 units
-35%
100 units
-42%
200 units
Call

KEY CHAIN

Round KC (1.25" Dia. x .5"

22.50
Rectangle, Lighted
(1.25" x 1.5" x .25"

32.50
Round, Lighted (1.25" Dia x .5"

32.50

My guess, they are seeing a 70% markup if they really bought in quantity, ground the wholesaler. That's probably 10$ per keychain in material costs. Now, 49.99 may seem like pure profit, but then you have labour that goes into that. Setting up the preview, dealing with unhappy customers. I'd throw in another 20$ .. that's probably 30$ profit per item.

So, the printer goes for around 160K... I guess you need to markup somewhat. The maintenance fee on that baby is probably going to run your around 20K per year. So, you have sell 20K worth of markup to break even on that alone. Add another 10% interest, and that's 16K.

They're going to have to sell 2000 .. just to break even. *ouch*

They're probably getting time share on a system, would be my guess. So, probably, they are making 10$ profit per item.

They're not getting rich, but if it's just a side business, not bad.

You can probably get a used crystal engraving system for 10-30K

http://www.laserresale.com/categories.asp

Kathmandu Gilman

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01-30-2006 05:21

Also keep in mind unless you have a lot of prim accessories or whatever, you avatar is going to look like every other avatar for the most part. Without textures the SL manaquin looks like a smooth Barbie or Ken doll even though you are clothed, the subtle details are bump mapped (texture) and won't be visible either. On the other hand, prim based avatars like a Luskwood furry might look pretty good. Unfortunatly you will have to build it outside SL so you can create a file to send.

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Anna Bobbysocks

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01-30-2006 05:33

You could probably do objects as well, doesn't look it is reserved for just avatars.

So, your favorite weapon, piece of furniture, whatever..

Anna Bobbysocks

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01-30-2006 06:01

Lame.

Csven Concord

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01-30-2006 06:40

I've been documenting my experiments with OGLE and expect to be meeting with the programmer tomorrow. Feel free to check my blog and the OGLE forum for more information.

Enabran Templar

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01-30-2006 08:33

Uh, how is this off-topic? This is very much on-topic, as it relates to the very specific issue of getting physical versions of SL stuff.

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Schwanson Schlegel

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01-30-2006 08:49

I am going to hold out until they can make a 3D plastic model. I would prefer one w/ kung fu grip. That would be cool.

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01-30-2006 08:57

From: Schwanson Schlegel

I am going to hold out until they can make a 3D plastic model. I would prefer one w/ kung fu grip. That would be cool.

Define "3D plastic model".

Schwanson Schlegel

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01-30-2006 09:41

From: Csven Concord

Define "3D plastic model".

Like this, but with kung fu grip:

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01-30-2006 09:45

That has cloth.

Cory Edo

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01-30-2006 09:51

From: Csven Concord

That has cloth.

Its a PG forum. No nudity allowed.

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Schwanson Schlegel

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01-30-2006 09:58

OK like this than...
Only with kung fu grip, or maybe a pull string that makes fart sounds. That would be cool.

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01-30-2006 10:50

Sorry. With all the profanity I've read lately, I completely forget.

More to the point however, what kind of plastic and process. There's many differents kinds of plastic (pvc, hdpe, pp, abs, san, etc etc). And there are many different kinds of process for creating plastic objects. Hence my request for specifics.

[edit: missed page 2. I guess nudity IS allowed.]

Schwanson Schlegel

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01-30-2006 11:12

From: Csven Concord

Sorry. With all the profanity I've read lately, I completely forget.

More to the point however, what kind of plastic and process. There's many differents kinds of plastic (pvc, hdpe, pp, abs, san, etc etc). And there are many different kinds of process for creating plastic objects. Hence my request for specifics.

[edit: missed page 2. I guess nudity IS allowed.]

I really don't care what type of plastic/process. Kung fu grip is non negotiable however.

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Anna Bobbysocks Registered User Join date: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 373	01-30-2006 02:17 http://www.crystalrender.com/ You'll probably want to use OGLE for this
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	01-30-2006 02:49 Gah. Now I have to actually dig up a 3D package though to clean up my avatar... _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Gladius Luchador Secutor Join date: 8 Feb 2005 Posts: 95	01-30-2006 02:53 Cool! What's OGLE, and how does one take their avatar and create a 3d file with it? _____________________ We who are about to die, salute you!
Anna Bobbysocks Registered User Join date: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 373	01-30-2006 03:11 http://ogle.eyebeamresearch.org/
Anna Bobbysocks Registered User Join date: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 373	01-30-2006 03:24 Interesting markup: http://www.lasercrystalworks.com/crystal.htm VOLUME DISCOUNTS 20 units -20% 50 units -35% 100 units -42% 200 units Call KEY CHAIN Round KC (1.25" Dia. x .5" 22.50 Rectangle, Lighted (1.25" x 1.5" x .25" 32.50 Round, Lighted (1.25" Dia x .5" 32.50 My guess, they are seeing a 70% markup if they really bought in quantity, ground the wholesaler. That's probably 10$ per keychain in material costs. Now, 49.99 may seem like pure profit, but then you have labour that goes into that. Setting up the preview, dealing with unhappy customers. I'd throw in another 20$ .. that's probably 30$ profit per item. So, the printer goes for around 160K... I guess you need to markup somewhat. The maintenance fee on that baby is probably going to run your around 20K per year. So, you have sell 20K worth of markup to break even on that alone. Add another 10% interest, and that's 16K. They're going to have to sell 2000 .. just to break even. ouch They're probably getting time share on a system, would be my guess. So, probably, they are making 10$ profit per item. They're not getting rich, but if it's just a side business, not bad. You can probably get a used crystal engraving system for 10-30K http://www.laserresale.com/categories.asp
Kathmandu Gilman Fearful Symmetry Baby! Join date: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1,418	01-30-2006 05:21 Also keep in mind unless you have a lot of prim accessories or whatever, you avatar is going to look like every other avatar for the most part. Without textures the SL manaquin looks like a smooth Barbie or Ken doll even though you are clothed, the subtle details are bump mapped (texture) and won't be visible either. On the other hand, prim based avatars like a Luskwood furry might look pretty good. Unfortunatly you will have to build it outside SL so you can create a file to send. _____________________ It may be true that the squeaky wheel gets the grease but it is also true that the squeaky wheel gets replaced at the first critical maintenance opportunity.
Anna Bobbysocks Registered User Join date: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 373	01-30-2006 05:33 You could probably do objects as well, doesn't look it is reserved for just avatars. So, your favorite weapon, piece of furniture, whatever..
Anna Bobbysocks Registered User Join date: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 373	01-30-2006 06:01 Lame.
Csven Concord * Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,015	01-30-2006 06:40 I've been documenting my experiments with OGLE and expect to be meeting with the programmer tomorrow. Feel free to check my blog and the OGLE forum for more information.
Enabran Templar Capitalist Pig Join date: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,506	01-30-2006 08:33 Uh, how is this off-topic? This is very much on-topic, as it relates to the very specific issue of getting physical versions of SL stuff. _____________________ From: Hiro Pendragon Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court. Second Life Forums: Who needs Reason when you can use bold tags?
Schwanson Schlegel SL's Tokin' Villain Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,721	01-30-2006 08:49 I am going to hold out until they can make a 3D plastic model. I would prefer one w/ kung fu grip. That would be cool. _____________________
Csven Concord * Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,015	01-30-2006 08:57 From: Schwanson Schlegel I am going to hold out until they can make a 3D plastic model. I would prefer one w/ kung fu grip. That would be cool. Define "3D plastic model".
Schwanson Schlegel SL's Tokin' Villain Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,721	01-30-2006 09:41 From: Csven Concord Define "3D plastic model". Like this, but with kung fu grip: _____________________
Csven Concord * Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,015	01-30-2006 09:45 That has cloth.
Cory Edo is on a 7 second delay Join date: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,851	01-30-2006 09:51 From: Csven Concord That has cloth. Its a PG forum. No nudity allowed. _____________________ www.electricsheepcompany.com
Schwanson Schlegel SL's Tokin' Villain Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,721	01-30-2006 09:58 OK like this than... Only with kung fu grip, or maybe a pull string that makes fart sounds. That would be cool. _____________________
Csven Concord * Join date: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,015	01-30-2006 10:50 Sorry. With all the profanity I've read lately, I completely forget. More to the point however, what kind of plastic and process. There's many differents kinds of plastic (pvc, hdpe, pp, abs, san, etc etc). And there are many different kinds of process for creating plastic objects. Hence my request for specifics. [edit: missed page 2. I guess nudity IS allowed.]
Schwanson Schlegel SL's Tokin' Villain Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,721	01-30-2006 11:12 From: Csven Concord Sorry. With all the profanity I've read lately, I completely forget. More to the point however, what kind of plastic and process. There's many differents kinds of plastic (pvc, hdpe, pp, abs, san, etc etc). And there are many different kinds of process for creating plastic objects. Hence my request for specifics. [edit: missed page 2. I guess nudity IS allowed.] I really don't care what type of plastic/process. Kung fu grip is non negotiable however. _____________________

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