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paulie Femto

Into the dark

Join date: 13 Sep 2003

Posts: 1,098

05-26-2006 16:52

A neat VR project.

http://www.opencroquet.org/index.html

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Pelanor Eldrich

Let's make a deal...

Join date: 8 Feb 2006

Posts: 267

Re: Croquet

05-26-2006 17:46

I've watched many demo movies and have downloaded the SDK and played around, so here are my opinions:

1)It's open source and peer to peer. Both *big* wins, and SL will be moving in that direction.
2)It runs on Windows, Linux and Mac transparently using a single image.
3)It uses squeak which is a Smalltalk port. Very elegant, but I worry that relatively few people are comfortable with this object based language. Good programmers will have no problem learning it.
4)The OpenGL building tools are fairly weak/non-existent. There needs to be the creation of several building tools (such as Brie). I think the building tools in the Spore game are the easiest for newbies. Something like this in addition to more complex ones need to be developed for Croquet.

Very promising and co-developed by a small team of some of the greatest minds in computer science.

Osprey Therian

I want capslocklock

Join date: 6 Jul 2004

Posts: 5,049

05-26-2006 17:50

Every time somebody brings up Croquet I go to see how it's progressing - yes, an interesting project.

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paulie Femto

Into the dark

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Posts: 1,098

croquet

05-26-2006 20:27

Croquet apparently has some neat features like mirrors, ingame voice, ingame HTML browsing, p2p functionality, non Euclidian geometry (portals).

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

05-26-2006 20:44

I've tried Croquet several times and find it confusing.

Has anyone ever seen someone else in a Croquet world?

The avatar movement seems primitive.

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Richard Meiklejohn

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Join date: 15 May 2006

Posts: 45

05-27-2006 06:15

Since Croquet is peer-to-peer, you determine which other machines participate in your spaces, so unless you explicitly set up more than one machine you won't see anyone else in the world. There is no centralised server that everyone is connecting to. In that regard, it is a totally different concept from SL. I see it more as a collaboration tool than a social networking tool or chat environment. I've only just started playing with it, but I can see tremendous possibilities for virtual classroom spaces for training (my core RL business).

Pelanor Eldrich

Let's make a deal...

Join date: 8 Feb 2006

Posts: 267

05-27-2006 07:49

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

I've tried Croquet several times and find it confusing.
Has anyone ever seen someone else in a Croquet world?
The avatar movement seems primitive.

Yes, the avatar legs don't move. It's the 1.0 release from April, so we look to the future for improvement. I did like the webcam on avatar head possibility of Croquet, and the hyperportals. To get many more people into a space there might be some Croquet ISP we could connect our machines to.

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paulie Femto Into the dark Join date: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,098	05-26-2006 16:52 A neat VR project. http://www.opencroquet.org/index.html _____________________ REUTERS on SL: "Thirty-five thousand people wearing their psyches on the outside and all the attendant unfettered freakishness that brings."
Pelanor Eldrich Let's make a deal... Join date: 8 Feb 2006 Posts: 267	Re: Croquet 05-26-2006 17:46 I've watched many demo movies and have downloaded the SDK and played around, so here are my opinions: 1)It's open source and peer to peer. Both big wins, and SL will be moving in that direction. 2)It runs on Windows, Linux and Mac transparently using a single image. 3)It uses squeak which is a Smalltalk port. Very elegant, but I worry that relatively few people are comfortable with this object based language. Good programmers will have no problem learning it. 4)The OpenGL building tools are fairly weak/non-existent. There needs to be the creation of several building tools (such as Brie). I think the building tools in the Spore game are the easiest for newbies. Something like this in addition to more complex ones need to be developed for Croquet. Very promising and co-developed by a small team of some of the greatest minds in computer science.
Osprey Therian I want capslocklock Join date: 6 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,049	05-26-2006 17:50 Every time somebody brings up Croquet I go to see how it's progressing - yes, an interesting project. _____________________ http:www.atomic-raygun.com Combat Cards in Europa [url=http://slurl.com/secondlife/grignano/118/116/]The Photography Studio in Grignano[/url] Mud! Mud! Glorious mud! Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood. So, follow me, follow, down to the hollow, And there let us wallow in glorious mud. Flanders and Swan
paulie Femto Into the dark Join date: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,098	croquet 05-26-2006 20:27 Croquet apparently has some neat features like mirrors, ingame voice, ingame HTML browsing, p2p functionality, non Euclidian geometry (portals). _____________________ REUTERS on SL: "Thirty-five thousand people wearing their psyches on the outside and all the attendant unfettered freakishness that brings."
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	05-26-2006 20:44 I've tried Croquet several times and find it confusing. Has anyone ever seen someone else in a Croquet world? The avatar movement seems primitive. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Richard Meiklejohn Registered User Join date: 15 May 2006 Posts: 45	05-27-2006 06:15 Since Croquet is peer-to-peer, you determine which other machines participate in your spaces, so unless you explicitly set up more than one machine you won't see anyone else in the world. There is no centralised server that everyone is connecting to. In that regard, it is a totally different concept from SL. I see it more as a collaboration tool than a social networking tool or chat environment. I've only just started playing with it, but I can see tremendous possibilities for virtual classroom spaces for training (my core RL business).
Pelanor Eldrich Let's make a deal... Join date: 8 Feb 2006 Posts: 267	05-27-2006 07:49 From: SuezanneC Baskerville I've tried Croquet several times and find it confusing. Has anyone ever seen someone else in a Croquet world? The avatar movement seems primitive. Yes, the avatar legs don't move. It's the 1.0 release from April, so we look to the future for improvement. I did like the webcam on avatar head possibility of Croquet, and the hyperportals. To get many more people into a space there might be some Croquet ISP we could connect our machines to.

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