Proving the Tooth Fairy Exists! :D
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Kevn Klein
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11-07-2005 17:26
Ok, we hear some compare the notion of a creator to the notion of the tooth fairy. So, I thought we should try to either prove or disprove the tooth fairy.
First, we need an hypothesis or a theory.... All childrens teeth are changed into money by a force we will call the tooth fairy force.
The evidence we have is as follows... as a child I left a tooth under my pillow, and in the morning there was money and no tooth. Now we need some extra evidence.. well, I tested it several times, and each time I did it, money was found under my pillow in the morning.
Ok, now we need coo borating evidence. After reading many first hand accounts, it seems millions of other kids also have verified this data to be correct. Now we are onto something, millions have experienced the same evidence and agree with the hypothesis/theory.
We are trying to determine where the money comes from, apparently it's a law of nature that causes the money to appear, since we know it arrives, but we can't understand how. Which is kind of like gravity, we know it happens, but we don't know why. So we could call it the law of tooth fairy.
Older people deny the tooth fairy exists, but we think it's because they aren't looking at the data. Can millions and millions of kids be wrong? Do teeth of children turn to money over night? That's a new theory we will explore next week.
Thank you, and have a nice evening.
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Cliffy Palmerstone
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11-07-2005 17:29
Drug induced or insanity? Or what? /me just wondered...
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Kevn Klein
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11-07-2005 17:30
From: Cliffy Palmerstone Drug induced or insanity? Or what? /me just wondered... What, you never got money from the tooth fairy force?
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11-07-2005 17:31
From: Kevn Klein What, you never got money from the tooth fairy force? No.
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Kevn Klein
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11-07-2005 17:34
Hmmm, I heard of people like you. There were a few kids in the study who also didn't feel the force. We are working on it, it may be the force is limited to only certain children. We noticed the force is also absent in many other countries, so we think it may be the tooth fairy force only resides in this part of the world.
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11-07-2005 17:43
However, upon further testing and examination, we learn that the tooth fairy is a collective fiction perpetrated on unusupecting children by parents. It has become a tradition obversation and ceremony of the passing of a body part. We establish scinetifically how the teeth get under the pillow, and we are able to discern the forces at work and the motive for the phenomena observed by the children.
No mattter how many children disagree, we have a scientific theory as to how the money gets under the the pillow.
It is not the number of beleivers that make evolution scientific, nor is it just the number s of observations made, but it is the methodology by which the observations are carried out. It is the tesatbility and falsfiability of the theory.
For example, if I could prove to you beyond all doubt that evolution is a fact. Would you give up your faith in god? I doubt it. Thus the theory of creationism is flawed because you cannot ever establish or deny gods existence in any observable method. I would venture to say your response to that question is somethign along the lines that "you could never prove evolution to me beyond all doubt, becaused the bible says god crfeated the world in 6 days."
To me, if science makes you give up your faith, then your faith is weak. If your faith makes you argue against foolish, then your science is ignorance.
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Kevn Klein
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11-07-2005 17:48
From: Jake Reitveld However, upon further testing and examination, we learn that the tooth fairy is a collective fiction perpetrated on unusupecting children by parents. It has become a tradition obversation and ceremony of the passing of a body part. We establish scinetifically how the teeth get under the pillow, and we are able to discern the forces at work and the motive for the phenomena observed by the children.
No mattter how many children disagree, we have a scientific theory as to how the money gets under the the pillow.
It is not the number of beleivers that make evolution scientific, nor is it just the number s of observations made, but it is the methodology by which the observations are carried out. It is the tesatbility and falsfiability of the theory.
For example, if I could prove to you beyond all doubt that evolution is a fact. Would you give up your faith in god? I doubt it. Thus the theory of creationism is flawed because you cannot ever establish or deny gods existence in any observable method. I would venture to say your response to that question is somethign along the lines that "you could never prove evolution to me beyond all doubt, becaused the bible says god crfeated the world in 6 days."
To me, if science makes you give up your faith, then your faith is weak. If your faith makes you argue against foolish, then your science is ignorance. Thank you very much for falsifying my theory. Now we can tell those who compare faith in God to faith in the tooth fairy that we can prove there is no tooth fairy. We should have asked Jake to start with 
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Kevn Klein
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11-07-2005 18:01
Jake,
I have never said 6 days = 24 hours * 6. In fact, my faith doesn't hinge on any of science's theories or laws. All science is of God to me. If we learn something new about nature, we are learning more about God through the physical manafestations of His creation. Should science reveil proof life came from dust (all the links were matched up, clearly proving abiogenisis and evolution of the species), my faith would say, well of course it did, 'from dust, to dust' as the Bible says. I have no reason to deny reality either way. Both models fit my faith.
So there is no point trying to change my faith in God.
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11-07-2005 18:01
From: someone Can millions and millions of kids be wrong? Yes. From: someone Do teeth of children turn to money over night? No.
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11-07-2005 18:11
I was raised by an Oral Surgeon and the daughter of a Dentist. The notion of a tooth fairy was debunked for me at my earliest memory.
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11-07-2005 18:33
From: Kevn Klein Thank you very much for falsifying my theory. Now we can tell those who compare faith in God to faith in the tooth fairy that we can prove there is no tooth fairy. We should have asked Jake to start with  Uhhh.. what exactly was proved? That they're both manifestations of humans elaborate imagination?
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Kevn Klein
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11-07-2005 18:35
From: Juro Kothari Uhhh.. what exactly was proved? That they're both manifestations of humans elaborate imagination? No, we proved the tooth fairy is a fable, and doesn't pretend to be real as far as adults are concerned.
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11-07-2005 18:38
From: Kevn Klein No, we proved the tooth fairy is a fable, and doesn't pretend to be real as far as adults are concerned. And - so what? The bible appears to be full of fables.
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11-07-2005 20:17
If there were a grudge match between Jesus and the Tooth Fairy, who would win?
Jesus, with his magical loaves and fish recipe?
Or the Tooth Fairy with her gigantic chainsaw made from the teeth of children?
You decide.
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11-07-2005 20:44
So Kevn, does it take you a big leap of faith not to believe in the tooth fairy?
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11-08-2005 00:20
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11-08-2005 01:11
But the big question is: should we teach young children about the tooth fairy in schools?
We could have an elective for younger children. Say, the top ten: Tooth Fairy
Santa Claus Easter Bunny (Lord High King of the Furries) Boogie Man The Sandman (traditional) The Sandman (Neil Gaiman's version) The Smoking Man (the Truth is Out There) The Vampire Lestat Opera Man The Bigfoot, or Yeti Of course there should be a disclaimer about the reality of all these creatures. I would guess Chip could probably write the most entertaining version. - Desmond Shang
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Kevn Klein
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11-08-2005 06:36
From: Desmond Shang But the big question is: should we teach young children about the tooth fairy in schools?
We could have an elective for younger children. Say, the top ten: Tooth Fairy
Santa Claus Easter Bunny (Lord High King of the Furries) Boogie Man The Sandman (traditional) The Sandman (Neil Gaiman's version) The Smoking Man (the Truth is Out There) The Vampire Lestat Opera Man The Bigfoot, or Yeti Of course there should be a disclaimer about the reality of all these creatures. I would guess Chip could probably write the most entertaining version. - Desmond Shang I personally think lying to children about Santa, the tooth fairy etc etc is wrong. When a child finds the truth, they will think lying is ok. They will also lose some trust in the words of their parents.
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Kevn Klein
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11-08-2005 06:38
From: Chip Midnight So Kevn, does it take you a big leap of faith not to believe in the tooth fairy? No, because the tooth fairy can be falsified, as Jake did.
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11-08-2005 06:47
Dude, lay off the sailing and contemplation bit, I don't think it is helping any. 
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11-08-2005 07:02
This is a truly amusing thread. It hints that God and the Tooth Fairy both have no supporting evidence for their existence, while attempting to do something in the other direction (for one of the subjects anyway) very weakly. (I think.)  Next up. We're going to prove that a house boat is not a boat by having it float in water alongside another boat. ~Ulrika~
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11-08-2005 07:06
We have not proved Tooth Faeries dont exist.
Though we have assumed for 100s of years that The Tooth Faerie engages in the hard labor of actually swapping teeth for coins, it is entirely possible that the Tooth Faerie engages in a subtle form of mind control which forces parents to do its unholy bidding.
I posit that my very likely theory is in FACT the absolute tooth --uhhh--TRUTH!
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11-08-2005 08:41
From: Kendra Bancroft We have not proved Tooth Faeries dont exist. Though we have assumed for 100s of years that The Tooth Faerie engages in the hard labor of actually swapping teeth for coins, it is entirely possible that the Tooth Faerie engages in a subtle form of mind control which forces parents to do its unholy bidding. I posit that my very likely theory is in FACT the absolute tooth --uhhh--TRUTH! Exactly right, Kendra! Children are meant to catch their parents swapping teeth for coins as a test of faith. Only those who have faith in the tooth fairy will be reunited with all their teeth in the afterlife. All others will spend eternity having to eat rocks without any teeth. There will be much wailing and smacking of gums.
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