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Enoch Lameth
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01-04-2006 11:57
Fun, but about as much sense as putting braille on a cash machine 
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Kris Ritter
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01-04-2006 11:59
From: Enoch Lameth Fun, but about as much sense as putting braile on a cash machine  lol. yes. I thought it kinda missed the point a bit too to do a braille graphic  And I remember that a bank in the UK DID have Braille on the buttons of their ATM's. Which always puzzled the shit out of me.
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Chance Abattoir
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Road Braille
01-04-2006 11:59
You know those bumps they put on the side of the road sometimes... What did you think it was for? There was already plenty of reason to put braille on drive-thru atm's.
Btw, road braille has saved my life on several occasions.
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Stankleberry Sullivan
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01-04-2006 12:03
From: Kris Ritter lol. yes. I thought it kinda missed the point a bit too to do a braille graphic  And I remember that a bank in the UK DID have Braille on the buttons of their ATM's. Which always puzzled the shit out of me. They use the same ATM machines for walk up and drive up.
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Phoenix Psaltery
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01-04-2006 12:13
From: Kris Ritter And I remember that a bank in the UK DID have Braille on the buttons of their ATM's. Which always puzzled the shit out of me. OMG! Discrimination! You are insinuating that the blind can't drive? Or have bank accounts? Or spend money????? You will hear from my high powered attorney about this! I am filing a discrimination lawsuit on behalf of all the poor oppressed blind people who have been deprived of the right to a normal life because of attitudes like this! If we ignore the rights of the blind, next it will be the deaf, and ultimately the stupid, and then ALL of us will be in trouble! As I said, you will be hearing from my attorney... as soon as he's released from prison. (He's the same attorney that Amy Weebler uses.)  P2
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Enoch Lameth
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01-04-2006 12:15
From: Chance Abattoir Btw, road braille has saved my life on several occasions.
Haha! Those things have woken me up more times than I care to think about after painfully dull workdays.
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Kris Ritter
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01-04-2006 12:17
huh? what? Now I'm more confused. My point was this: apart from the numeric keypad, the buttons on an ATM refer dynamically to whatever options are available on the current screen. And since the options change depending on all sorts of factors - hell I don't even get the same options in the same order every time I go use one - I don't see how the hell you can track where you are or what the options are. Just my ignorance, I'm sure. But if someone can enlighten me then that'll be one less thing I'm confused about in life 
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Stankleberry Sullivan
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01-04-2006 12:21
From: Kris Ritter huh? what? Now I'm more confused. My point was this: apart from the numeric keypad, the buttons on an ATM refer dynamically to whatever options are available on the current screen. And since the options change depending on all sorts of factors - hell I don't even get the same options in the same order every time I go use one - I don't see how the hell you can track where you are or what the options are. Just my ignorance, I'm sure. But if someone can enlighten me then that'll be one less thing I'm confused about in life  I'm sure the braille is on there because some idiots whined about discrimination without considering what they were whining about. Whiners do that a lot.
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Torley Linden
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01-04-2006 12:21
It would be kewl to see bumps come out of your monitor and be able to feel them. Maybe a primitive stuff towards petting your screen because it's like a jungle rug.
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Enoch Lameth
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01-04-2006 12:22
From: Kris Ritter huh? what? Now I'm more confused. My point was this: apart from the numeric keypad, the buttons on an ATM refer dynamically to whatever options are available on the current screen. And since the options change depending on all sorts of factors - hell I don't even get the same options in the same order every time I go use one - I don't see how the hell you can track where you are or what the options are. Just my ignorance, I'm sure. But if someone can enlighten me then that'll be one less thing I'm confused about in life  I'm pretty sure the ATMs featuring Braille are a damned good indication that rules and regulations have gotten out of hand. I mean, it isn't possible for the blind to follow the user inferfaces I've seen either. Maybe the manufacturers are exploiting a loophole so they don't have to spend money redesigning everything.
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Chance Abattoir
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01-04-2006 12:27
From: Stankleberry Sullivan I'm sure the braille is on there because some idiots whined about discrimination without considering what they were whining about. Whiners do that a lot. It's probably because it's cheaper to print one set of buttons than to print a braille-less one for drive-thrus. You have a very unusual whining complex.
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Stankleberry Sullivan
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01-04-2006 12:29
From: Chance Abattoir It's probably because it's cheaper to print one set of buttons than to print a braille-less one for drive-thrus. You have a very unusual whining complex. You didn't read the whole thread!!! I don't have a complex, I just don't like whiners.
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Chance Abattoir
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01-04-2006 12:32
From: Kris Ritter huh? what? Now I'm more confused. My point was this: apart from the numeric keypad, the buttons on an ATM refer dynamically to whatever options are available on the current screen. And since the options change depending on all sorts of factors - hell I don't even get the same options in the same order every time I go use one - I don't see how the hell you can track where you are or what the options are. Just my ignorance, I'm sure. But if someone can enlighten me then that'll be one less thing I'm confused about in life  I've seen brailled atm's with an option for audio.
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Chance Abattoir
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01-04-2006 12:35
From: Stankleberry Sullivan You didn't read the whole thread!!!
I did. If you were trapped on a deserted island, I have a feeling that you'd entertain yourself by imagining what perils would have befallen all those whiners if they were in your situation. Those whiners wouldn't last ten minutes, would they?
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Gabe Lippmann
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01-04-2006 12:36
How about....
Louis Braille — Date of Birth: 4 January 1809
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Kris Ritter
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01-04-2006 12:38
From: Torley Torgeson It would be kewl to see bumps come out of your monitor and be able to feel them. Maybe a primitive stuff towards petting your screen because it's like a jungle rug. Well not quite what you're suggesting, but you need a Braille Screen Reader.  And they do actually have ATM's with them on! I fitted one for a friend to his PC (not hard - it plugged into the parallel port and auto setup). It's like a big slab with little pins arranged just like pixels making up characters to form the braille symbols, translating the text on the screen line by line. Kinda like this: 
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Kris Ritter
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01-04-2006 12:39
From: Chance Abattoir I've seen brailled atm's with an option for audio. That makes more sense. But isn't that kinda a security risk?
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Gabe Lippmann
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01-04-2006 12:39
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Stankleberry Sullivan
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01-04-2006 12:40
From: Chance Abattoir I did.
If you were trapped on a deserted island, I have a feeling that you'd entertain yourself by imagining what perils would have befallen all those whiners if they were in your situation. Those whiners wouldn't last ten minutes, would they? You have quite an imagination.
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Gabe Lippmann
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01-04-2006 12:41
From: Kris Ritter That makes more sense. But isn't that kinda a security risk? No more so than just using an ATM. There is a input plug for a hearing device and it doesn't announce your pin code out loud or the fact that you're flat broke.
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Chance Abattoir
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01-04-2006 12:42
From: Kris Ritter That makes more sense. But isn't that kinda a security risk? I don't think it reads your code to you.
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Kris Ritter
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01-04-2006 12:48
From: Chance Abattoir I don't think it reads your code to you. I was thinking more along the lines of getting mugged right after it announces 'you have 1200 bucks. do you require another service?'  But I figured it was what Gabe said anyway. 
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Rose Karuna
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01-04-2006 13:33
Sight impared and blind people can ask their bank for a set of head phones that can be plugged into the ATM and used along with the braille keys. The reason that they have braille keys on drive up ATM's is that many sight impared people use taxi cabs to get where they need to go and those people also need cash. The drive up ATM's are used with head phones in the same manner that the walk up ATM's are used. .
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Joy Honey
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01-04-2006 13:39
From: Rose Karuna Sight impared and blind people can ask their bank for a set of head phones that can be plugged into the ATM and used along with the braille keys.
The reason that they have braille keys on drive up ATM's is that many sight impared people use taxi cabs to get where they need to go and those people also need cash. The drive up ATM's are used with head phones in the same manner that the walk up ATM's are used.
. Ohhhhh, I always wondered why the drive-ups had them. Der. 
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