Vatican Official Refutes Intelligent Design

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I would like to take this opportunity to gloat at those who were supporting ID just days ago. Your tears of sorrow taste so sweet.

~Ulrika~

For Catholics, this should not be surprising. The Catholic Church has been fairly supportive of the theory of evolution. In 1996 John Paul II said that evolution is more than a hypothesis. In fact, going back to 1950, Pius XII in his encyclical Humani Generis already proclaimed that there is "no opposition between evolution and the doctrine of the faith."

Wow.

I'm astonished that the Vatican even has a chief astronomer and observatory, much less issue a statement like this. After all, these are the same folks that issued an apology about their treatment of Galileo a mere 359 years after his trial for his unpopular heliocentric views.

Er, Ulrika?

Keep in mind an awful lot of Christians in the US don't really give a damn what the Catholics think.

And, by extension, I'd assume many ID supporters are the same.

The pope has long known the importance of technology... For good reason...

Quick someone tell that guy who keeps posting that HIS religion ought to be taught in public schools. But you know what? He hasn't listened to anyone but himself so far so why should he listen to the Pope.

Ulrika,

Why would you listen to the Catholic church? Not long ago, in an earlier thread you said....




And now you are quoting them, as if you care what they think? hmmm

Gloat away Ulrika

Just know one (OK, maybe two) thing(s)... The Pope does not speak for all Christians (probably fewer than you think), and, not all proponents of ID are Christians.

That being said, continue to gloat on!

I won't lie. It's profoundly satisfying.

~Ulrika~

I do not know of any people who support Creationism er Pardon me, Re-Hashed Creationism in the form of ID except Radicals

And its very interesting that Dover Pennsylvania voted the bums out who supported ID and put in some sensiable people who supported Science.

Hahaha... OMG... that cracked me up... Johnny Number 5... another favorite from my childhood.

I was impressed that the electorate came together to oust the ID radicals.

It seems to me though, that the board of education shouldn't be chosen by citizens from a pool of citizens rather it should be chosen by teachers (and other educational professionals) from a group of those who have experience and advanced degrees in the field of education. Currently, it's kind of like having board of directors for a company being voted in from a pool of citizens by the general public instead of from a group of businessmen by the shareholders.

~Ulrika~

I would venture to guess that you know few scientist, and even fewer Creationist. While I do not agree that it should be taught in class rooms as fact, I certainly do agree with Creationism. I have a hard time with many things being taught as fact in science class, but they were when I went to school, and I assume they still are.

In Maryland? You find it "very interesting", as you didn't expect it to happen? If it was in Georgia, I might tend to agree with you, but Maryland? You have to be kidding.

Honestly?

I don't know if you have any children (you have not mentioned it in any threads I have read), but I find that you would espouse this hard to believe.

You would be in effect turning over the aspect of voting to a panel you had no voice in putting in place. Or are you suggesting that the general public be allowed to vote on the teachers hiring as well?

Better yet, I think it would be right that every year the teachers AND board are elected by the citizens who actually have their children going to those districts.

But, since everyone pays for these services through taxes (even those that send their children to private school), should they not have a hand in the voting?

Would it be fair if you were forced to relocate for your job to a district that had a large religious population of teachers, who voted in ID? You would have no recourse except to send your child to a private school (are there any of those that are not religious in nature?), quit your job and move somewhere else, or home school.

If you chose to put up a fight with the school district, but by the time your case was settled, your children would most likely have already come and gone through that district.

It is important to note that they are not saying ID is not the one true way and the light (repent, sinners!) only that it isn't science and shouldn't be taught as such. Big difference.

Me saying Skinny Puppy isn't Rap doesn't mean I don't believe in or support Skinny Puppy, only that it shouldn't be marketed with Snoop Dog.

Ywans... save yer gloating for something worth it... who gives a rats ass what this guy says? Most Christians don't. Oh... and what Jonquille said too.

Nothing to see here peeps... move along now.