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Rose Karuna
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05-12-2006 09:41
It's like aliens invading or something taking over your body. :eek:

Doctors puzzled over bizarre infection surfacing in South Texas

Web Posted: 05/12/2006 10:51 AM CDT
Deborah Knapp
KENS 5 Eyewitness News

If diseases like AIDS and bird flu scare you, wait until you hear what's next. Doctors are trying to find out what is causing a bizarre and mysterious infection that's surfaced in South Texas.

Morgellons disease is not yet known to kill, but if you were to get it, you might wish you were dead, as the symptoms are horrible.

"These people will have like beads of sweat but it's black, black and tarry," said Ginger Savely, a nurse practioner in Austin who treats a majority of these patients.

Patients get lesions that never heal.

"Sometimes little black specks that come out of the lesions and sometimes little fibers," said Stephanie Bailey, Morgellons patient.

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Patients say that's the worst symptom — strange fibers that pop out of your skin in different colors.


"He'd have attacks and fibers would come out of his hands and fingers, white, black and sometimes red. Very, very painful," said Lisa Wilson, whose son Travis had Morgellon's disease.

While all of this is going on, it feels like bugs are crawling under your skin. So far more than 100 cases of Morgellons disease have been reported in South Texas.

"It really has the makings of a horror movie in every way," Savely said.

While Savely sees this as a legitimate disease, there are many doctors who simply refuse to acknowledge it exists, because of the bizarre symptoms patients are diagnosed as delusional.

"Believe me, if I just randomly saw one of these patients in my office, I would think they were crazy too," Savely said. "But after you've heard the story of over 100 (patients) and they're all — down to the most minute detail — saying the exact same thing, that becomes quite impressive."

Travis Wilson developed Morgellons just over a year ago. He called his mother in to see a fiber coming out of a lesion.

"It looked like a piece of spaghetti was sticking out about a quarter to an eighth of an inch long and it was sticking out of his chest," Lisa Wilson said. "I tried to pull it as hard as I could out and I could not pull it out."

The Wilson's spent $14,000 after insurance last year on doctors and medicine.

"Most of them are antibiotics. He was on Tamadone for pain. Viltricide, this was an anti-parasitic. This was to try and protect his skin because of all the lesions and stuff," Lisa said.

However, nothing worked, and 23-year-old Travis could no longer take it.

"I knew he was going to kill himself, and there was nothing I could do to stop him," Lisa Wilson said.

Just two weeks ago, Travis took his life.

Stephanie Bailey developed the lesions four-and-a-half years ago.

"The lesions come up, and then these fuzzy things like spores come out," she said.

She also has the crawling sensation.

"You just want to get it out of you," Bailey said.

She has no idea what caused the disease, and nothing has worked to clear it up.

"They (doctors) told me I was just doing this to myself, that I was nuts. So basically I stopped going to doctors because I was afraid they were going to lock me up," Bailey said.

Harriett Bishop has battled Morgellons for 12 years. After a year on antibiotics, her hands have nearly cleared up. On the day, we visited her she only had one lesion and she extracted this fiber from it.

"You want to get these things out to relieve the pain, and that's why you pull and then you can see the fibers there, and the tentacles are there, and there are millions of them," Bishop said.

So far, pathologists have failed to find any infection in the fibers pulled from lesions.

"Clearly something is physically happening here," said Dr. Randy Wymore, a researcher at the Morgellons Research Foundation at Oklahoma State University's Center for Health Sciences.

Wymore examines the fibers, scabs and other samples from Morgellon's patients to try and find the disease's cause.

"These fibers don't look like common environmental fibers," he said.

The goal at OSU is to scientifically find out what is going on. Until then, patients and doctors struggle with this mysterious and bizarre infection. Thus far, the only treatment that has showed some success is an antibiotic.

"It sounds a little like a parasite, like a fungal infection, like a bacterial infection, but it never quite fits all the criteria of any known pathogen," Savely said

No one knows how Morgellans is contracted, but it does not appear to be contagious. The states with the highest number of cases are Texas, California and Florida.

The only connection found so far is that more than half of the Morgellons patients are also diagnosed with Lyme disease.

For more information on Morgellons, visit the research foundation's Web site at
www.morgellons.org.
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Lo Jacobs
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05-12-2006 09:52
Jesus christ!







Oh my god!!

That's CREEPY! :eek:
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05-12-2006 10:04
:Throws up a little:
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05-12-2006 10:19
After reading some, I'm skeptical.
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Rose Karuna
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More on these alien freak body snatchers
05-12-2006 10:23
Deborah Altschuler is the president of the National Pediculosis Association in Boston, Massachusetts. The foundation was created to increase awareness about head lice and protect children from pesticides.

Altschuler has been studying a disease that sounds exactly like Morgellons disease.

“People were calling us with very similar symptoms from all over the country,” says Altschuler.

The NPA teamed up with the Oklahoma State Department of Health to study the creepy crawlers.

They took skin samples from 20 patients who claim they have the bugs, but were diagnosed by their doctors as delusional.

Researchers found collembolan, a microscopic critter, in 18 of the 20 patients.

Collembola feed on algae, bacteria and decaying matter. They thrive in wet or damp surroundings, and can be found under leaky kitchen or bathroom sinks, swimming pools, and the soil of potted plants.

The report was published in the journal of the New York Entomological Association. However, it wasn't enough evidence to get the centers for disease control to take action.

The CDC told Altschuler that the collembola was not a danger to humans, even though she says the CDC has shown her no specific study to prove it.

The Morgellons foundation says it was also shot down by the CDC.

If the research on the collembola is right, researchers still have to figure out how serious these critters are to your health, and they have to find out how to kill them



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Chance Abattoir
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05-12-2006 10:46
From: Rose Karuna
The CDC told Altschuler that the collembola was not a danger to humans, even though she says the CDC has shown her no specific study to prove it.


Wikipedia says "Attempts to replicate these results have failed" regarding the collembola. Granted that anyone can edit wikipedia, it doesn't take much logic to also note that the CDC also has no specific study to prove that butterflies don't cause arterial sclerosis.

It all starts seeming very questionable when you look past the Morgellons websites into actual medicine.

*That's not to say that these people might not be sick, but maybe they have something with an actual explanation that has been overlooked.
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05-12-2006 10:51
From: Chance Abattoir
After reading some, I'm skeptical.

I am too, but you decide: http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/2459/
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05-12-2006 10:54
Wikipedia also has something: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons :p
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Lorelei Patel
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05-12-2006 10:54
Germaphobes? Why do you hate the German people? :(

Oh, but the disease thing? I read about it a while back. I think the real disease is delusional paranoia, but... I'm no doctor or anything.
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05-12-2006 10:59
Yep, looks like the latest fad imaginary disease.

Unfortuntately, like the "Audi Sudden Acceleration Incidents" investigated and put to rest as "Pedal misapplications are the likely cause of these incidents" in 1979 the media attention to "Morgellons" will likely cause many more cases to appear just as the TV program "60 Minutes" in 1986 spawned over 1400 claims that Audis were driving themselves.

For those who read the first link, parasites are something that can easily see with a device called a "microscope" and unlike things like Chonic Fatigue Syndrome are either there or not; there really isn't any guesswork involved. That the lone doctor trying to hunt the ellusive "Morgellons" was able to only find Candida tropicalis isn't much of a surprise as it lives on just about every human.

You can take the tissue boxes off your feet now.
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05-12-2006 10:59
Heh, from the Wikipedia article:

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Dr. George Schwartz of Santa Fe, New Mexico believes the cause is the bacterium Stenotrophomonas maltophilia, which he claims is found in bottled water from France.


Damn those frogs!
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Rose Karuna
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05-12-2006 11:26
LOL - it reminded me of that movie I saw where this lady has a bump on her face that looks like acne, but it bursts and a bunch of tiny spiders comes out. Stuff like that really freaks me out.

I just really hate crawly things that can get under the skin, and doubly hate them if they are hairy and multi-colored and make you do crazy shit. :eek:

It sounds to me like this was a case where people who had Lymes disease (a real issue), and had weak immune systems, got a normal bug that all of us get every day and can normally eject from our systems (yes the dreaded household Collembola) and had a bad reaction combined with the already bad things that happened from lymes.

Just my theory anyway. Re-enforces my theory that ticks should be wiped of the face of the earth.

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05-12-2006 12:28
From: Rose Karuna
LOL - it reminded me of that movie I saw where this lady has a bump on her face that looks like acne, but it bursts and a bunch of tiny spiders comes out. Stuff like that really freaks me out.

I just really hate crawly things that can get under the skin, and doubly hate them if they are hairy and multi-colored and make you do crazy shit. :eek:

It sounds to me like this was a case where people who had Lymes disease (a real issue), and had weak immune systems, got a normal bug that all of us get every day and can normally eject from our systems (yes the dreaded household Collembola) and had a bad reaction combined with the already bad things that happened from lymes.

Just my theory anyway. Re-enforces my theory that ticks should be wiped of the face of the earth.

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Yea, I suppose it could be that. However, the simplest answer is generally the most logical.

Extra-terrestrial infection of parasites from another planet that arrived by meteorite.
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05-13-2006 01:00
Yep! This is how it starts- weird lesions, black goo, etc. Then a slow painful death. Next thing ya know Grandma rises from the dead to feed upon the living. Yep! :eek:

*heading to the nearest mall to live* ;)
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05-13-2006 01:14
A REAL story to make your stomach churn.
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05-13-2006 01:18
THIS one's a keeper. For God's sake, "click to view enlarged image."
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05-13-2006 06:16
I recently saw on tv (Discovery probably, but don't exactly recall) a doctor treating a young homeless woman who was dirty and had a large, gaping wound on her arm.

The woman was clearly "touched" and was babbling. She kept telling the doctor "I got worms". They didn't think she knew what was up and went on with their normal protocol.

Eventually, a doctor pulled an earthworm out from under her skin near the wound. I believe there was more than 1, but I had to turn away for a moment.

Woman told them so.
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05-13-2006 07:50
From: Tod69 Talamasca
*heading to the nearest mall to live* ;)

I thought the malls were already overrun with zombies.
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05-13-2006 08:06
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I thought the malls were already overrun with zombies.


That's true. They are taking all our jobs! They should all be put in internment camps "for their own good".
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05-13-2006 08:11
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That's true. They are taking all our jobs! They should all be put in internment camps "for their own good".


I have to express strong antipathy with your position, as I am part-zombie myself. Part-time zombie, anyway. Any hour in the AM, I'm a shambling creature that... might eat your brain accidentally, like if I mistake it for a bagel.
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05-13-2006 20:15
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I have to express strong antipathy with your position, as I am part-zombie myself. Part-time zombie, anyway. Any hour in the AM, I'm a shambling creature that... might eat your brain accidentally, like if I mistake it for a bagel.


I have to express strong antipathy to your fictitious portrayal of the Jewish people.
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05-13-2006 20:22
From: Chance Abattoir
THIS one's a keeper. For God's sake, "click to view enlarged image."

Oh... my... GOD! :eek::eek::eek::eek:
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Ah yes Morgellons disease
05-13-2006 23:02
No worries, only Southern Baptists get this disease. It is thought that the virus may be spreading through Church grounds and services. It is not airborne, yet but definitely can be caught by touch or excessive hatred of others.
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