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Einsman Schlegel

Disenchanted Fool

Join date: 11 Jun 2003

Posts: 1,461

06-22-2006 18:43

http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-us&x=3&y=6&p1=6519

With the Windows Updates coming to a close, if you're not upgraded to the next version, you're pretty much in severe risk of being compromised.

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1974813,00.asp

The sleeze strikes again.

There are two sides of the coin in this one.
One side of course, being on the users who can't afford to upgrade to the next OS, the other are the ones who are perfectly content at being where they are and want Windows to be updated.

Are you ready?

Vares Solvang

It's all Relative

Join date: 26 Jan 2005

Posts: 2,235

06-22-2006 19:40

Windows ME was such crap I don't know why anyone would want to still be using it.

Worst. OS. Ever.

Tsukasa Karuna

Master of all things desu

Join date: 30 Jun 2004

Posts: 370

06-22-2006 20:44

From: Vares Solvang

Windows ME was such crap I don't know why anyone would want to still be using it.

Worst. OS. Ever.

Signed and seconded.

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Cory Edo

is on a 7 second delay

Join date: 26 Mar 2005

Posts: 1,851

06-22-2006 21:39

Even extended support for almost 6 years after the release date is more than I would have expected. That said, if you're still plugging away with ME, you probably know more about keeping it running than any of MS's tech support team at this point.

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Tod69 Talamasca

The Human Tripod ;)

Join date: 20 Sep 2005

Posts: 4,107

06-22-2006 22:24

From: Vares Solvang

Windows ME was such crap I don't know why anyone would want to still be using it.

Worst. OS. Ever.

3rd'd

My fiance's mother just installed (ready for this?) Windows ME on her Windows XP system so she can Dual Boot.

Ok, now you're asking: WHY????????

The answer: Her "Boyfriend" told her how to do it & how cool it is. She can't be too smart either since she loves Windows ME.

I still get people asking me to fix their computers running Windows 98. NOT the 2nd edition either!! I really hate trying to stiffle my laughter.

Vares Solvang

It's all Relative

Join date: 26 Jan 2005

Posts: 2,235

06-23-2006 02:17

From: Tod69 Talamasca

3rd'd

My fiance's mother just installed (ready for this?) Windows ME on her Windows XP system so she can Dual Boot.

Ok, now you're asking: WHY????????

The answer: Her "Boyfriend" told her how to do it & how cool it is. She can't be too smart either since she loves Windows ME.

I still get people asking me to fix their computers running Windows 98. NOT the 2nd edition either!! I really hate trying to stiffle my laughter.

Hell I would gladly take 98 over ME any day! They rushed ME in order to make the year 2000, and it showed. I went from 98 to ME and regretted it every single day.

If you are still using ME, upgrade to XP. Trust me it's worth the money. XP isn't perfect, but at least it works!

Billybob Goodliffe

NINJA WIZARDS!

Join date: 22 Dec 2005

Posts: 4,036

06-23-2006 04:21

people still use ME? WTF!

Reitsuki Kojima

Witchhunter

Join date: 27 Jan 2004

Posts: 5,328

06-23-2006 08:42

From: Einsman Schlegel

http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-us&x=3&y=6&p1=6519

With the Windows Updates coming to a close, if you're not upgraded to the next version, you're pretty much in severe risk of being compromised.

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1974813,00.asp

The sleeze strikes again.

How long should microsoft continue to support an out of date OS?

How good is the support for, say, OS8 on a mac?

_____________________

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Billybob Goodliffe

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Join date: 22 Dec 2005

Posts: 4,036

06-23-2006 08:46

From: Billybob Goodliffe

people still use ME? WTF!

let me rephrase that, People got ME to actually work? WTF!!!!

Corvus Drake

Bedroom Spelunker

Join date: 12 Feb 2006

Posts: 1,456

06-23-2006 11:34

Back when I sold Computers for COMPUSA, I was asked "what happened to Windows ME? It looked nice and it only came out like a year or two ago?". I explained to my customer that Windows ME was the equivalent of an unwanted pregnancy, and that Microsoft was the listless teenager that used a coathanger to abort WinME and toss it into a back-alley dumpster.

Remarkably, they bought everything I put in front of them.

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Einsman Schlegel

Disenchanted Fool

Join date: 11 Jun 2003

Posts: 1,461

06-23-2006 11:44

From: Reitsuki Kojima

How long should microsoft continue to support an out of date OS?

How good is the support for, say, OS8 on a mac?

If you make and distribute an OS thats currently under your company's liability, then for sure, they need to patch it up, hence they are liable for security and other updates. Same goes for the Mac.

Now on the other hand, when the lifecycle ends, and the customer has been given reasonable amount of time to prepare themselves for it, then its the customers fault for not updating.

This isn't a question of one's loyalty to a company Microsoft/Apple, this is a question of a companies liability. The above article mentioned they've known about this security issue for a long time, and did not and will not do nothing about it, hence forcing the users to choose where and when to upgrade.

I think that's fair don't you think?

Billybob Goodliffe

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Join date: 22 Dec 2005

Posts: 4,036

06-23-2006 11:54

I think it makes good business sense to stop updating the old OS's after awhile. That will get alot of people to buy the newest one. It seems like sound business strategy to me.

Corvus Drake

Bedroom Spelunker

Join date: 12 Feb 2006

Posts: 1,456

06-23-2006 12:44

Also, good luck getting Windows 95 to use 3GB (or even 2) of DDR memory. Or even supporting half the hardware out there.

Software goes obsolete like anything else. Noone makes Tandy's anymore, you know.

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Seronis Zagato

Verified Resident

Join date: 30 Aug 2005

Posts: 454

06-23-2006 13:44

From: Corvus Drake

Back when I sold Computers for COMPUSA, I was asked "what happened to Windows ME? It looked nice and it only came out like a year or two ago?". I explained to my customer that Windows ME was the equivalent of an unwanted pregnancy, and that Microsoft was the listless teenager that used a coathanger to abort WinME and toss it into a back-alley dumpster.

Remarkably, they bought everything I put in front of them.

Holy @#$%@ that is the single most brilliant description i've ever witnessed.

*applauds*

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Reitsuki Kojima

Witchhunter

Join date: 27 Jan 2004

Posts: 5,328

06-23-2006 14:02

From: Einsman Schlegel

If you make and distribute an OS thats currently under your company's liability, then for sure, they need to patch it up, hence they are liable for security and other updates. Same goes for the Mac.

Now on the other hand, when the lifecycle ends, and the customer has been given reasonable amount of time to prepare themselves for it, then its the customers fault for not updating.

This isn't a question of one's loyalty to a company Microsoft/Apple, this is a question of a companies liability. The above article mentioned they've known about this security issue for a long time, and did not and will not do nothing about it, hence forcing the users to choose where and when to upgrade.

I think that's fair don't you think?

The part I bolded is what I'm getting at. Windows ME's lifecycle has ended. Reasonable time has been given for you to upgrade.

_____________________

I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.

Vares Solvang

It's all Relative

Join date: 26 Jan 2005

Posts: 2,235

06-23-2006 16:12

Do I think Microsoft should still be supporting ME? Ok, 100% serious answer here:

No I don't. What I honestly think they should do at this point is issue an official apology for ME and offer anyone still using ME a free upgrade to XP. (Online update with the option to have disk mailed to you for a small fee.)

Microsoft knew ME wasn't good enough to release but they did it anyway, so now they need to make amends.

ME is what happens when you let the marketing divison make product decisions.

The End of Microsoft Support: Windows ME and Other Outdated OS's
Einsman Schlegel Disenchanted Fool Join date: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,461	06-22-2006 18:43 http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-us&x=3&y=6&p1=6519 With the Windows Updates coming to a close, if you're not upgraded to the next version, you're pretty much in severe risk of being compromised. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1974813,00.asp The sleeze strikes again. There are two sides of the coin in this one. One side of course, being on the users who can't afford to upgrade to the next OS, the other are the ones who are perfectly content at being where they are and want Windows to be updated. Are you ready?
Vares Solvang It's all Relative Join date: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 2,235	06-22-2006 19:40 Windows ME was such crap I don't know why anyone would want to still be using it. Worst. OS. Ever.
Tsukasa Karuna Master of all things desu Join date: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 370	06-22-2006 20:44 From: Vares Solvang Windows ME was such crap I don't know why anyone would want to still be using it. Worst. OS. Ever. Signed and seconded. _____________________ ".. who as of 5 seconds ago is no longer the deliverator.."
Cory Edo is on a 7 second delay Join date: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,851	06-22-2006 21:39 Even extended support for almost 6 years after the release date is more than I would have expected. That said, if you're still plugging away with ME, you probably know more about keeping it running than any of MS's tech support team at this point. _____________________ www.electricsheepcompany.com
Tod69 Talamasca The Human Tripod ;) Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,107	06-22-2006 22:24 From: Vares Solvang Windows ME was such crap I don't know why anyone would want to still be using it. Worst. OS. Ever. 3rd'd My fiance's mother just installed (ready for this?) Windows ME on her Windows XP system so she can Dual Boot. Ok, now you're asking: WHY???????? The answer: Her "Boyfriend" told her how to do it & how cool it is. She can't be too smart either since she loves Windows ME. I still get people asking me to fix their computers running Windows 98. NOT the 2nd edition either!! I really hate trying to stiffle my laughter.
Vares Solvang It's all Relative Join date: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 2,235	06-23-2006 02:17 From: Tod69 Talamasca 3rd'd My fiance's mother just installed (ready for this?) Windows ME on her Windows XP system so she can Dual Boot. Ok, now you're asking: WHY???????? The answer: Her "Boyfriend" told her how to do it & how cool it is. She can't be too smart either since she loves Windows ME. I still get people asking me to fix their computers running Windows 98. NOT the 2nd edition either!! I really hate trying to stiffle my laughter. Hell I would gladly take 98 over ME any day! They rushed ME in order to make the year 2000, and it showed. I went from 98 to ME and regretted it every single day. If you are still using ME, upgrade to XP. Trust me it's worth the money. XP isn't perfect, but at least it works!
Billybob Goodliffe NINJA WIZARDS! Join date: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 4,036	06-23-2006 04:21 people still use ME? WTF!
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	06-23-2006 08:42 From: Einsman Schlegel http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-us&x=3&y=6&p1=6519 With the Windows Updates coming to a close, if you're not upgraded to the next version, you're pretty much in severe risk of being compromised. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1974813,00.asp The sleeze strikes again. How long should microsoft continue to support an out of date OS? How good is the support for, say, OS8 on a mac? _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Billybob Goodliffe NINJA WIZARDS! Join date: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 4,036	06-23-2006 08:46 From: Billybob Goodliffe people still use ME? WTF! let me rephrase that, People got ME to actually work? WTF!!!!
Corvus Drake Bedroom Spelunker Join date: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,456	06-23-2006 11:34 Back when I sold Computers for COMPUSA, I was asked "what happened to Windows ME? It looked nice and it only came out like a year or two ago?". I explained to my customer that Windows ME was the equivalent of an unwanted pregnancy, and that Microsoft was the listless teenager that used a coathanger to abort WinME and toss it into a back-alley dumpster. Remarkably, they bought everything I put in front of them. _____________________ I started getting banned from Gorean sims, so now I hang out in a tent called "Fort Awesome".
Einsman Schlegel Disenchanted Fool Join date: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,461	06-23-2006 11:44 From: Reitsuki Kojima How long should microsoft continue to support an out of date OS? How good is the support for, say, OS8 on a mac? If you make and distribute an OS thats currently under your company's liability, then for sure, they need to patch it up, hence they are liable for security and other updates. Same goes for the Mac. Now on the other hand, when the lifecycle ends, and the customer has been given reasonable amount of time to prepare themselves for it, then its the customers fault for not updating. This isn't a question of one's loyalty to a company Microsoft/Apple, this is a question of a companies liability. The above article mentioned they've known about this security issue for a long time, and did not and will not do nothing about it, hence forcing the users to choose where and when to upgrade. I think that's fair don't you think?
Billybob Goodliffe NINJA WIZARDS! Join date: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 4,036	06-23-2006 11:54 I think it makes good business sense to stop updating the old OS's after awhile. That will get alot of people to buy the newest one. It seems like sound business strategy to me.
Corvus Drake Bedroom Spelunker Join date: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 1,456	06-23-2006 12:44 Also, good luck getting Windows 95 to use 3GB (or even 2) of DDR memory. Or even supporting half the hardware out there. Software goes obsolete like anything else. Noone makes Tandy's anymore, you know. _____________________ I started getting banned from Gorean sims, so now I hang out in a tent called "Fort Awesome".
Seronis Zagato Verified Resident Join date: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 454	06-23-2006 13:44 From: Corvus Drake Back when I sold Computers for COMPUSA, I was asked "what happened to Windows ME? It looked nice and it only came out like a year or two ago?". I explained to my customer that Windows ME was the equivalent of an unwanted pregnancy, and that Microsoft was the listless teenager that used a coathanger to abort WinME and toss it into a back-alley dumpster. Remarkably, they bought everything I put in front of them. Holy @#$%@ that is the single most brilliant description i've ever witnessed. applauds _____________________ From: Johnny Mann Just cause SL redefines what a videogame can be doesnt mean it isnt a game. From: Ash Venkman I beat SL. (The end guy is really hard.)
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	06-23-2006 14:02 From: Einsman Schlegel If you make and distribute an OS thats currently under your company's liability, then for sure, they need to patch it up, hence they are liable for security and other updates. Same goes for the Mac. Now on the other hand, when the lifecycle ends, and the customer has been given reasonable amount of time to prepare themselves for it, then its the customers fault for not updating. This isn't a question of one's loyalty to a company Microsoft/Apple, this is a question of a companies liability. The above article mentioned they've known about this security issue for a long time, and did not and will not do nothing about it, hence forcing the users to choose where and when to upgrade. I think that's fair don't you think? The part I bolded is what I'm getting at. Windows ME's lifecycle has ended. Reasonable time has been given for you to upgrade. _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Vares Solvang It's all Relative Join date: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 2,235	06-23-2006 16:12 Do I think Microsoft should still be supporting ME? Ok, 100% serious answer here: No I don't. What I honestly think they should do at this point is issue an official apology for ME and offer anyone still using ME a free upgrade to XP. (Online update with the option to have disk mailed to you for a small fee.) Microsoft knew ME wasn't good enough to release but they did it anyway, so now they need to make amends. ME is what happens when you let the marketing divison make product decisions.

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