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While You Idiots (and Bitches) Cheer About Invading ANOTHER Country Who Didn't Attack

Mulch Ennui
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03-16-2006 13:07
The Real Ball Keeps Rolling

Looks like Your little bully on the block* plan isn't deterring anyone significantly

at least anyone who actually has the means to attack us, unlike certain Muslim nations with antiquated military and less than efficient supply chain, are not deterred

are you guys ready for a war on 4 fronts (and we are significantly outnumbered by China alone)?

I hope that little tax break you got was worth it...

*TM Colin Powell
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Moss Talamasca
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Oh yeah. We're screwed.
03-16-2006 14:37
America in the New Millenium = Rome of the First Millenium

How long before someone realizes you can't own, police, govern, bully, or culturally dominate the entire world?

As for her arms building, all China has to do is call in our debts. They've paid the war in Iraq for us, and now all they have to do is call in the invoices. They own America, it's just all on layaway right now.

Get ready to be a second-world nation, folks. Time to learn some Mandarin.
Almarea Lumiere
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03-16-2006 14:45
> all China has to do is call in our debts

Don't worry too much. China wants Taiwan more than they want us to pay them back.
vivi Odets
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03-16-2006 14:49
... thank goodness we have those communists in Cuba under control...
Mulch Ennui
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03-16-2006 14:52
From: Almarea Lumiere
> all China has to do is call in our debts

Don't worry too much. China wants Taiwan more than they want us to pay them back.


problem is, we told China if they want Taiwan, they have to go thru us 1st

you all see the problem yet?
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Moss Talamasca
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03-16-2006 14:53
From: Almarea Lumiere
> all China has to do is call in our debts

Don't worry too much. China wants Taiwan more than they want us to pay them back.


And they get to tell us to stay out of it. Everybody wins!

I'm sure they'll stop at Taiwan. There's no way they'd want to expand more than that.
Hiro Pendragon
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03-16-2006 15:03
Iraq never threatened us.
Iran has and is threatening us directly and openly.

Iraq never captured hostages from the US.
Iran has captured hostages from the US.

Iraq had no WMDs, was verified by inspectors, and Saddam talked up his capabilities.
Iran is openly processing uranium that will be bomb-grade, has been verified by inspectors.

Iraq was a secular regime.
Iran is a Islamic Extremist ruled regime.

Iraq did not train terrorists.
Iran is known to directly donate money to terrorist organizations.

I'd say the case for war is far more convincing than Iraq, or at least for some tactical airstrikes and economic sanctions.
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Mulch Ennui
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03-16-2006 15:12
From: Hiro Pendragon

I'd say the case for war is far more convincing than Iraq, or at least for some tactical airstrikes and economic sanctions.


you are 100% correct, but I proposition that Iran would not be boldly going this route had our forces not been engaged in needless invasion and occupations

we are now spread out, and distrustful of our leadership to make valid decisions, thatsa big problem

the fact that we are spread out in 2 invasions ATM, contemplating action on a third (and our military is certainly within reach of Iran) while drawing a line in the sand with a fourth country who would give us a run for our money if we only had them as a single opponent (China), I'd say we are stertched too thin and on dangerous, unsecure ground

that is a huge problem

does anyone else see the irony of attacking Iran when we used Iraqs attack on Iran as justification to invade Iraq?
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Hiro Pendragon
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03-16-2006 15:17
From: Mulch Ennui
you are 100% correct, but I proposition that Iran would not be boldly going this route had our forces not been engaged in needless invasion and occupations

Disagree. I think Iran would be doing it more boldly thinking that no one would take action.

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we are now spread out, and distrustful of our leadership to make valid decisions, thatsa big problem

Agreed. I also have this hypothesis that Bush may have thought that taking over Iraq would be a foothold to enable the conquering of Syria and Iran, who, in my opinion, are terrorist sponsoring states. Of course, we see how well his "quick, easy, mission accomplished" war has gone... :\

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does anyone else see the irony of attacking Iran when we used Iraqs attack on Iran as justification to invade Iraq?

I never heard this as part of the justification. Especially since we backed Iraq's attack on Iran. And helped them develop the chemical weapons they used on Iran and probably in the Gulf War. Whoops, I didn't say that. :D


Yes I did. I'm really shocked that when people see photos of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam in the 80s, people don't immediately get it.
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Mulch Ennui
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03-16-2006 15:22
From: Hiro Pendragon

Yes I did. I'm really shocked that when people see photos of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam in the 80s, people don't immediately get it.


the chemical weapons were what I was referring too

that was "proof" he had WMDs

pretty fucked up that the reason we knew they had them is because WE gave it to them

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Mulch Ennui
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03-16-2006 15:30
From: Hiro Pendragon
Agreed. I also have this hypothesis that Bush may have thought that taking over Iraq would be a foothold to enable the conquering of Syria and Iran, who, in my opinion, are terrorist sponsoring states. Of course, we see how well his "quick, easy, mission accomplished" war has gone... :\


Also, along with this point, is with 3 invasions on Muslim nations, the rest of the world will get just a little bit more nervous about us, and make alliances

I have heard quoted somewhere that the EU was created to stop US dominence of Europe...

at some point, someone is gonna put their foot down and tell us to stop

My bets are China and/or Russia

We have already vanquished (and looted) the Muslims for all intents and purposes
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Roxie Marten
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03-16-2006 17:06
From: Mulch Ennui
Also, along with this point, is with 3 invasions on Muslim nations, the rest of the world will get just a little bit more nervous about us, and make alliances

I have heard quoted somewhere that the EU was created to stop US dominence of Europe...

at some point, someone is gonna put their foot down and tell us to stop

My bets are China and/or Russia

We have already vanquished (and looted) the Muslims for all intents and purposes



Europe has never been able to stop anything. If it wasn't for the United States they would be speaking german right now. We have pulled Europe's fat out of the fire two times now. Any bets when we do it the third time?
Eggy Lippmann
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03-16-2006 18:12
From: Roxie Marten
Europe has never been able to stop anything. If it wasn't for the United States they would be speaking german right now. We have pulled Europe's fat out of the fire two times now. Any bets when we do it the third time?

Never mind the fact that the russian front killed far more germans than anything else in WW2.
But why bother with facts eh? It's so much more fun to spout uninformed drivel!