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Set Hanner

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07-12-2006 10:18

who's had them?

i decided, today, to make my first martini. in europe, nobody serves martinis, even though james bond somehow found out about them.

well, i mixed 1 shot of vermouth with 3 shots of gin and 3 ice cubes unstrained because i didn't want to take the time to shake the ice.

oh christ, it's bad. drinks that taste worse:
straight gin
straight rum
straight vodka (not by much)
stroh 80 mixed with anything
absynth mixed with anything
chartreuse mixed with anything

so was my slightly altered recipe a recipe for disaster, or should it not really matter? because the end result tasted like slightly watered-down gin mixed with cheap wine.

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07-12-2006 10:22

I don't stray too far from the Bourbon family, myself.

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Matt Newchurch

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07-12-2006 10:42

Waywaywaaaay too much Vermouth. Really, you just want a splash in the shaker or pitcher, or enough to coat the inside of your glass. Some people put vermouth in the shaker with ice, shake it, then dump the vermouth out and then put the in the gin. It tasted watered down because you didn't strain it and the ice melted and/or you over-shook. Vermouth is basically infused wine, and you used a ton.

Set Hanner

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07-12-2006 10:54

so just gin and ice? that sounds even worse.

Ordinal Malaprop

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07-12-2006 11:00

From: Matt Newchurch

Waywaywaaaay too much Vermouth. Really, you just want a splash in the shaker or pitcher, or enough to coat the inside of your glass.

Yah. For some reason a lot of recipes out there seem to quote that amount of vermouth, but it's horrible stuff.

I'm partial to a vodka martini myself, not fond of gin ones; clearly it has to be very good vodka, as you're basically drinking, well, neat vodka with a little flavouring. Stolichnaya and Smirnoff Black are the ones that best combine availability and taste, I find. The vodka is straight from the freezer so no ice is required.

Don't know about this bit about people not making martinis in Europe. I see lots of them in cocktail places in London, traditional as well as all sorts of odd variants, most of them unpleasant (I don't recommend a "saketini" for instance).

I understand, by the way, that you are supposed to stir a vodka martini, not shake it.

Set Hanner

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07-12-2006 11:05

i'm sure london has places that make real martinis, but up north here, and everywhere else in europe, it seems, when you order a martini, they ask what mixer you want. (they only have that martini bianco stuff)

Cazzi Opel

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07-12-2006 11:08

The vermouth should be minimal. You really should just coat the inside of the glass with it and then put the ice and gin in a shaker, shake it, and then pour the cold gin in the glass. Dont forget the Olive

I guess its always cocktail time somewhere in SL. Have a nice day!

Desmond Shang

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07-12-2006 11:10

Might be related to this:

http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/feb2003/nidcd-20.htm

(to sum that up - people taste bitterness at different intensities; it's heritable)

I'm one of those who easily tolerates bitterness - I love martinis, black liquorice, so on and so forth. Clearly not everyone else does.

Strong tolerance of bitterness correlates with odd things like alcoholism, for example:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=35937

(this does not affect me personally, fortunately, or at least not yet)

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Set Hanner Registered User Join date: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 14	07-12-2006 10:18 who's had them? i decided, today, to make my first martini. in europe, nobody serves martinis, even though james bond somehow found out about them. well, i mixed 1 shot of vermouth with 3 shots of gin and 3 ice cubes unstrained because i didn't want to take the time to shake the ice. oh christ, it's bad. drinks that taste worse: straight gin straight rum straight vodka (not by much) stroh 80 mixed with anything absynth mixed with anything chartreuse mixed with anything so was my slightly altered recipe a recipe for disaster, or should it not really matter? because the end result tasted like slightly watered-down gin mixed with cheap wine.
Billybob Goodliffe NINJA WIZARDS! Join date: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 4,036	07-12-2006 10:22 I don't stray too far from the Bourbon family, myself. _____________________ If life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade and try and find someone who's life has given them vodka and have a party! From: Corvus Drake I asked God directly, and he says you're a douchebag. Commander of the Militant Wing of the Salvation Army http://e-pec.info/forum/blog/billybob_goodliffe
Matt Newchurch Registered User Join date: 6 Jan 2006 Posts: 215	07-12-2006 10:42 Waywaywaaaay too much Vermouth. Really, you just want a splash in the shaker or pitcher, or enough to coat the inside of your glass. Some people put vermouth in the shaker with ice, shake it, then dump the vermouth out and then put the in the gin. It tasted watered down because you didn't strain it and the ice melted and/or you over-shook. Vermouth is basically infused wine, and you used a ton.
Set Hanner Registered User Join date: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 14	07-12-2006 10:54 so just gin and ice? that sounds even worse.
Ordinal Malaprop really very ordinary Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,607	07-12-2006 11:00 From: Matt Newchurch Waywaywaaaay too much Vermouth. Really, you just want a splash in the shaker or pitcher, or enough to coat the inside of your glass. Yah. For some reason a lot of recipes out there seem to quote that amount of vermouth, but it's horrible stuff. I'm partial to a vodka martini myself, not fond of gin ones; clearly it has to be very good vodka, as you're basically drinking, well, neat vodka with a little flavouring. Stolichnaya and Smirnoff Black are the ones that best combine availability and taste, I find. The vodka is straight from the freezer so no ice is required. Don't know about this bit about people not making martinis in Europe. I see lots of them in cocktail places in London, traditional as well as all sorts of odd variants, most of them unpleasant (I don't recommend a "saketini" for instance). I understand, by the way, that you are supposed to stir a vodka martini, not shake it.
Set Hanner Registered User Join date: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 14	07-12-2006 11:05 i'm sure london has places that make real martinis, but up north here, and everywhere else in europe, it seems, when you order a martini, they ask what mixer you want. (they only have that martini bianco stuff)
Cazzi Opel Registered User Join date: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 46	07-12-2006 11:08 The vermouth should be minimal. You really should just coat the inside of the glass with it and then put the ice and gin in a shaker, shake it, and then pour the cold gin in the glass. Dont forget the Olive I guess its always cocktail time somewhere in SL. Have a nice day!
Desmond Shang Guvnah of Caledon Join date: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 5,250	07-12-2006 11:10 Might be related to this: http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/feb2003/nidcd-20.htm (to sum that up - people taste bitterness at different intensities; it's heritable) I'm one of those who easily tolerates bitterness - I love martinis, black liquorice, so on and so forth. Clearly not everyone else does. Strong tolerance of bitterness correlates with odd things like alcoholism, for example: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=35937 (this does not affect me personally, fortunately, or at least not yet) _____________________ Steampunk Victorian, Well-Mannered Caledon!

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