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Guys, seriously. Would you let a woman steal it?
Ladies, would you steal it?
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MadamG Zagato
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02-02-2006 21:49
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Guys, seriously. Would you let a woman steal it? Ladies, would you steal it? |
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Gabe Lippmann
"Phone's ringing, Dude."
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02-02-2006 22:01
If it's free how can anyone steal it?
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MadamG Zagato
means business
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Free love...LOL
02-03-2006 04:35
Let me rephrase that...
Would you force another person to "arouse" you? Would you force yourself on another person? |
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Siobhan OFlynn
Evildoer
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02-03-2006 04:54
Let me rephrase that... Would you force another person to "arouse" you? Would you force yourself on another person? No. I was a single mother for 9 years, I never felt the need to "force" myself on an unwilling man. Most men are happy to "shoplift the pootie" (to steal a quote from "Jerry Macguire" ._____________________
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Introvert Petunia
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02-03-2006 05:20
Was it Lenny Bruce who said "men will fuck mud"?
(note: posted by a guy who turned down a "do me baby" because he thought she might not be pleased with her decision come morning and was prolly correct; okay, I'm a pervert, so sue me ) |
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nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
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02-03-2006 05:59
Wow, the poll results are quite.... opposite from the men and women.
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MadamG Zagato
means business
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02-03-2006 06:26
Yes, I noticed that too. I wonder if a man was held at knife point or gun point by a woman and raped if he would report it to the police, or dismiss it as a "rough sex" session and carve another notch in his bed post?
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Nyx Divine
never say never!
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02-03-2006 06:48
Umm the article is about a child being sexually abused by a teacher!!!! Yes a female teacher and a male student but that doesn't mean shit.
Please tell me UR not seriously suggesting that this 13yr old should in someway be 'grateful' for her attention..... And it's not a common occurrance but there are GROWN men who INDEED are sexually molseted and forced to perform. And often do NOT report the incident possibly because of this kind of attitude that he was lucky to 'tap that ass'. Pfft _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
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02-03-2006 06:56
One thing stood out about the article...
The delicate problem even reached the United Nations! UN official Karina Perelli known for her key role in organizing elections in Iraq was accused of putting up with the indecent conduct of employees in her office. An inspection in the office revealed that jokes on sex issues, sexual insinuations and frivolous behavior were rather popular there. Ok, aside from sounding like the entire damn article was wrote by a third grader... Oh noes!!!!! She was accused of *putting up with jokes!* OMGWTFBBQW/JEBUS! Christ, I'd kill for a working environment with a little humor... Most work places are so sterile anymore, your co-workers are afraid to speak because you might sue them unless you're already friends with them. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Leilany LaFollette
Not old, just older
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02-03-2006 07:17
Christ, I'd kill for a working environment with a little humor... Most work places are so sterile anymore, your co-workers are afraid to speak because you might sue them unless you're already friends with them. Sad, but true... one of my co-workers (a very nice lady, btw) apologized repeatedly this morning because she said *crap* Good grief Leilany _____________________
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Csven Concord
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02-03-2006 07:38
Yes, I noticed that too. I wonder if a man was held at knife point or gun point by a woman and raped if he would report it to the police, or dismiss it as a "rough sex" session and carve another notch in his bed post? If you truly wonder this, you might want to research some related independent statistics on domestic abuse perpetrated by... women. Prior to my own unfortunate experience, I believed what is probably commonly held to be true about such cases. Afterward, I was dismayed to learn some other things that are much less known and quite disturbing. Dismayed not so much for my sake as the sake of my former partner who is, by virtue of social gender stereotypes and attitudes and assumptions, almost certain to never receive the help she needs (and to repeat her mistakes a third or perhaps - by now - fourth time; I was the second). I believe men truly held against their will would realize such an incident isn't about sex, it's about power and control. Men don't casually dismiss acts of violence and aggression; especially if they're the target. Under those circumstances, there is no "notch" to be carved and suggesting that there would be is part of the general problem (no offense intended toward you here). I suspect any man truly in fear of his life at "knife point or gun point by a woman" would have to deal first hand with society's stereotypical gender-based bias. In the previously-mentioned circumstance, I certainly got an education. And I came through my situation. Many men commit suicide. |
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Dark Korvin
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02-03-2006 08:41
Why do people assume that a 13 year old boy needs to be at knife point, gun point, or attacked to be convinced to have sex with a woman. Granted, a 34 year old woman should have enough common sense to not believe she fell in love with a 13 year old boy leading her to have sex with him, but I think people are underestimating the sexual drive of a junior high and high school boy. Isn't it a common boy fantasy to have the teacher seduce you?
As for grown men being forced into sex. Most men I've known would sleep with anything, but then again I was in the Army. I have met men that actually talk about waiting till marriage, and I know I personally don't sleep around when I have a girlfriend. Not all men are the same, just like not all women are against finding a man for a one night stand. I will say there probably is some truth in the fact that most men want sex and don't care what woman it comes from, where most women seem to care more about finding a man they can fall in love with. It isn't true for everyone though. A knife though? When fighting someone that has a knife when you don't, the first thing you instinctually do is get close to them and get them to ground. It is better to force them to only be able to cut what they can manage in the collision. It is better than letting them stay on their feet and choose the vital spots you don't want them to hit. If you really are a man who doesn't want sex, and she has you close and on the ground, you kind of are in the perfect position to defend yourself. Ecspecially since you most likely are the stronger one, just keep her moving and struggling so she doesn't have a chance to put the knife where she wants it easily. Its hard for me to picture a woman overpowering a man with just a knife. |
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Reitsuki Kojima
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02-03-2006 08:43
A knife though? It is not the big of a deal when you fight a person with a knife to get stabbed. When they have a knife you just realize your going to get cut, and try to get close and get them to the ground. It hurts like hell, but you do what you have to. If you really are a man who doesn't want sex, and she has you close and on the ground, you kind of are in the perfect position to defend yourself. Ecspecially since you most likely are the stronger one. Its hard for me to picture a woman overpowering a man with just a knife. I have news for you regarding how effective a knife can be. I have stitches in a couple of interesting spots to back that up, too. None, thankfully, from a life-or-death fight... Just accidents. Intentionaly... Thats even more risky. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Willow Zander
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02-03-2006 08:43
Sad, but true... one of my co-workers (a very nice lady, btw) apologized repeatedly this morning because she said *crap* Good grief Leilany LOL! Man good job she doesn't work in my office where the cries of OMFG THOSE B*STARDS, WHAT THE F*CK, WHAT A BUNCH OF F*CKTARDS, and I AM F*CKING FUMING are daily, if not hourly (and thats just from me and my office mate! theres only four of us in here!) XD _____________________
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Billy Grace
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02-03-2006 08:50
Rape in any form, man on woman, woman on man... is sick. Somehow that gets lost when you are talking about a woman raping a man.
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Dark Korvin
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02-03-2006 09:05
I have news for you regarding how effective a knife can be. I have stitches in a couple of interesting spots to back that up, too. None, thankfully, from a life-or-death fight... Just accidents. Intentionaly... Thats even more risky. Case in point, you've had stitches. If they cut you on the forearms, the upperarms, the gut, the outer or lower legs because they don't get a chance to get you in the neck or chest, then you'll need to go to the hospital, but you'll live. As long as you live, and they don't die, you're golden. |
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Reitsuki Kojima
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02-03-2006 09:09
Case in point, you've had stitches. If they cut you on the forearms, the upperarms, the gut, the outer or lower legs because they don't get a chance to get you in the neck or chest, then you'll need to go to the hospital, but you'll live. As long as you live, and they don't die, you're golden. "live" has nothing to do with it. A moderate-to-severe wound will incapacitate just fine without being immedietly lethal. Further, as you point out - There are a lot of spots that are very vulnerable to a knife wound. Gut. Neck. Head. Under the armpits. Between the ribs. Upper thighs. A knife *is* a very deadly weapon. Particularly if the person on the pointy end has no idea how to defend themselves - and knife fighting is not exactly taught in highschool these days. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Dark Korvin
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02-03-2006 09:33
"live" has nothing to do with it. A moderate-to-severe wound will incapacitate just fine without being immedietly lethal. Further, as you point out - There are a lot of spots that are very vulnerable to a knife wound. Gut. Neck. Head. Under the armpits. Between the ribs. Upper thighs. A knife *is* a very deadly weapon. Particularly if the person on the pointy end has no idea how to defend themselves - and knife fighting is not exactly taught in highschool these days. Gut I know you can survive, I'm not sure about the armpits, but your probably right. I think the groin is probably deadly too. The wrist will just incapacitate you if they cut the tendons, but I've seen someone with their wrist cut to the bone make it through just fine. They needed pins to reattach the tendons to the bone, but they lived. They weren't in a fight, they just couldn't take things anymore, but still they lived. Getting the person on the ground is instinctual. You do it without thinking about it, and then realize its what saved you. You still can die yes, but if you're being threatened by a knife, you want them close and you want them on the ground. If she is raping you, she already is in a position that you have a chance. There is another problem now that I think about it. I was thinking you don't want her dead if she is woman, because I doubt a court will believed she attacked you. Now I think about it, there is still the problem with assault and battery. Pretty bad situation, but you have a chance. Not sure what I would do with a gun. Guess I would just be happy that society will kill them for me later. |
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Reitsuki Kojima
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02-03-2006 09:46
Gut I know you can survive, I'm not sure about the armpits, but your probably right. I think the groin is probably deadly too. The wrist will just incapacitate you if they cut the tendons, but I've seen someone with their wrist cut to the bone make it through just fine. They needed pins to reattach the tendons to the bone, but they lived. They weren't in a fight, they just couldn't take things anymore, but still they lived. Getting the person on the ground is instinctual. You do it without thinking about it, and then realize its what saved you. You still can die yes, but if you're being threatened by a knife, you want them close and you want them on the ground. If she is raping you, she already is in a position that you have a chance. Gut is variable. It depends on how quick you get help, how much skin was penetrated, how badly the intestines were damaged, if the kidnies were punctured, and how qualified the team working on you is. Armpit will give you some major bloodloss (and is a right chancy thing to stop... tourniquete is out and pressure doesn't always work right (Since most people aren't aware of where and in what direction the pressure needs to be applied) and probably permanant nerve damage to the arm. Groin is, again, iffy... but NEVER pleasant Anyhow, the point isn't really how easy it is to kill with a knife - it's easy - or how easy it is to incapacitate - also easy, but simply that discounting being threatened by a knife because the attacker is a woman is a damnfool thing to do that would get you killed. Underestimation is fatal. I would take a woman with a knife as seriously as I would take a man with a knife. There is another problem now that I think about it. I was thinking you don't want her dead if she is woman, because I doubt a court will believed she attacked you. Now I think about it, there is still the problem with assault and battery. Pretty bad situation, but you have a chance. Not sure what I would do with a gun. Guess I would just be happy that society will kill them for me later. That's a whole 'nother issue, but I'll say two things. I'm a firm believer in the saying "Better to be tried by twelve men then carried by six". And yes, I'll agree that the legal and societal perceptions of male/female domestic violence issues is disturbing to say the least. Obscene is a better word. Women can do no wrong without a smoking gun, and even then they can get off in the right court. _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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MadamG Zagato
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02-03-2006 11:39
Umm the article is about a child being sexually abused by a teacher!!!! Yes a female teacher and a male student but that doesn't mean shit. Please tell me UR not seriously suggesting that this 13yr old should in someway be 'grateful' for her attention..... And it's not a common occurrance but there are GROWN men who INDEED are sexually molseted and forced to perform. And often do NOT report the incident possibly because of this kind of attitude that he was lucky to 'tap that ass'. Pfft I am not suggesting anything personally. Just found the title of the article interesting enough and wondered what others thought. LOL _____________________
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