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Ulrika Zugzwang
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11-07-2005 21:38
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Lianne Marten
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11-07-2005 21:44
The last one made me giggle more than all the others ^_^
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Jamie Bergman
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11-07-2005 21:48
Its funny and all... but kinda over the top to imply that this nation was founded by terrorists. The USA was founded by Patriots.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
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11-07-2005 21:55
Its funny and all... but kinda over the top to imply that this nation was founded by terrorists. ![]() ~Ulrika~ _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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11-07-2005 21:55
Its funny and all... but kinda over the top to imply that this nation was founded by terrorists. The USA was founded by Patriots. George Washington arguably invented what we now term guerilla warfare. _____________________
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Jamie Bergman
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11-07-2005 21:57
George Washington arguably invented what we now term guerilla warfare. I thought William Wallace did? Or was Braveheart just pooping me? |
Lianne Marten
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11-07-2005 21:57
Its funny and all... but kinda over the top to imply that this nation was founded by terrorists. The USA was founded by Patriots. Because we won, and it's been 200 years. In the opinion of the British at the time? Terrorists. _____________________
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Mulch Ennui
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11-07-2005 21:59
Its funny and all... but kinda over the top to imply that this nation was founded by terrorists. The USA was founded by Patriots. You don't understand the nature of propoganda Jamie Please answer my question in ask Jamie anything. it is meant to illustrate how linguistics can distort the whole story by careful use of words "You have to understand that many people are not ready to be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it." I am sorry, I know the red pill is a very bitter pill _____________________
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Seth Kanahoe
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11-08-2005 05:29
George didn't invent guerrilla warfare. He hated it, and couldn't understand how to do it. But he recognized its value, so he put the man who did invent guerrilla warfare in charge of it: Nathaniel Greene.
Greene practiced it most successfully against Cornwallis in the American South - in the campaign that led up to Yorktown. Later on, Trotsky, Mao, Ho, Che, and others would credit Greene with their own strategies and tactics. As for terrorism and the Founding Fathers of the United States, ask the British what they thought of Greene, the Adamses, Hancock, Henry, and the others. _____________________
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Liona Clio
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11-08-2005 08:08
Let's not lose perspective as we chuckle over the anvils that Fox News like to drop....
Most people define a patriot as someone who fights passionately for his beliefs, usually in the service of a country. Most people define terrorists as people who use tactics like death and destruction to scare the populace and the government into capitulating to their demands. Yes, sometimes someone who qualifies as a patriot has used terrorist methods. That doesn't make terrorist methods right, nor does it make the beliefs the patriot as wrong. Most patriots are fighting against tyranny...fighting against a regime that oppressively controls their life. Freedom is usually the goal; the opportunity to live their life via choices they make, rather than the choices someone dictates to them. I agree with this idea of patriotism. Terrorist methods involve fear, murder, destruction, and a lack of caring for one's fellow man. The slaughering of innocents, the bombing of civilians, the instilling of fear...These are not ideas I approve of. In fact, I usually think of these actions as wrong. What does this mean? Patriotism is a good ideal, that is tarnished by terrorism, a bad ideal. We need to make sure we separate the two when we wade though the complexities of world events. _____________________
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Dianne Mechanique
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11-08-2005 08:14
Its funny and all... but kinda over the top to imply that this nation was founded by terrorists. The USA was founded by Patriots. If the current "terrorists" were to blow up the US and take everything over, in the new resultant Islamic World order, the "terrorists" of today would become the founding fathers of the state. This is quite literally true of the U.S. as well as Israel and a whole bunch of other countries. History is written by the victors. ![]() _____________________
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Dark Korvin
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11-08-2005 09:26
George Washington arguably invented what we now term guerilla warfare. What Seth said, and I'd like to add my favorite Francis Marion the "swamp fox." Another intelligent American that decided to hassle the British with expert use of raid, ambush, and reconnaissance. Not to mention he used a very small group of highly trained high moral men to harrass a very large army throughout an entire state. The modern day has to realize that ground warfare isn't just about how many men you have. Hopefully we will perfect lethal robots soon anyway, and our blood thirsty presidents will be able to conquer the world without Americans getting upset (they seem to care about U.S. casualties anyway *sarcasm included for free*). Oh well, till then we'll just have to rely on the smaller forces of C.A.G., Special Forces, Marines, and Rangers to do what the huge Army would screw up if they tried to participate. We still rely on guerilla warfare. Now adays the conventional army is only bait to draw the enemy out of their holes so the air force can get their shot. |
Kendra Bancroft
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11-08-2005 09:29
George didn't invent guerrilla warfare. He hated it, and couldn't understand how to do it. But he recognized its value, so he put the man who did invent guerrilla warfare in charge of it: Nathaniel Greene. Greene practiced it most successfully against Cornwallis in the American South - in the campaign that led up to Yorktown. Later on, Trotsky, Mao, Ho, Che, and others would credit Greene with their own strategies and tactics. As for terrorism and the Founding Fathers of the United States, ask the British what they thought of Greene, the Adamses, Hancock, Henry, and the others. I stand corrected ![]() _____________________
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11-08-2005 10:48
Hilarious, funny, and frightening all at once. <3 Ulrika!
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