Timeline of pre 9/11 to Christmas of 2005
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Blueman Steele
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12-14-2005 00:16
I challenge anyone to give a good timeline of what happened from before 9/11 to today's situation in Iraq.
Let's see what memory holes, newspeak, and such exists.
Let's see who can even remember
1. The bombing of the Trade Center before 9/11
2. The twarted set of in-air bombings before 9/11
3. Who was involved with those (Osma Hussen or Sadam Bin Laden?)
4. When was Saddam doing those horrid things we accuse him of (yes they are true)
5. When was the US turning a blind eye and rewarding his behavior (hmmm when WHEN)
6. Our missions in Afganistan, uhm looking for terrorists.
If you see any of these and are like "that didn't happen" or the more likely "huh?" then we have a great place for you in Washington.
Also curious as to what we thought was true that later turned out to be WRONG. People remember the initial story, but not the later retraction even if it was by the president.
Of course facts just get in most people's way..... to all of those I apologize in advance.
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Jeffrey Gomez
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12-14-2005 00:56
1. Basement bomb if I recall. It was a failed attempt I only saw, briefly, on the news.
2. Clinton era saw some rather harrowing stories of hijackers and planes. Though at the time, these were far from a "hot topic"
3. No comment on your little funny... ... .....
4. Of course they're true. We kept him in power in many respects after Operation Desert Storm.
5 & 6. ...
Fact is, the current administration knows that fear tactics work. The War on Terror is this era's Communist Witchhunt and, as with the earlier regimes that brought that, it's a phase.
Either it goes downhill after this administration, or it doesn't. Fear tactics only go so far before people get tired and go on with their lives. Hopefully.
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12-14-2005 00:56
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Hiro Pendragon
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12-14-2005 01:06
You're close. From: Jeffrey Gomez 1. Basement bomb if I recall. It was a failed attempt I only saw, briefly, on the news. 1993. Al Quaida was named as the organization behind it, one "mastermind" of the bombing was targetted, but Clinton did not go after Al Quaida. From: someone 2. Clinton era saw some rather harrowing stories of hijackers and planes. Though at the time, these were far from a "hot topic" Don't forget the foiled attempt to bomb the Lincoln Tunnel into Midtown Manhattan right after (1). That would have been worse than 9/11 potentially. Clinton is, in my opinion, just as culpable as the Bushes in letting 9/11 happen. From: someone 4. Of course they're true. We kept him in power in many respects after Operation Desert Storm. XXXXXXXXX Sorry, the correct answer was a two-parter. Chemical Weapons, part I is: "The Iran/Iraq War, 1980's, under Reagan". Chemical Weapons, part II is: "Post Gulf War, after we lied to the Kurds and said we'd back them in a revolution." under Clinton. No idea? Ask Donald Rumsfeld who he arms brokered with in the 80's. ... So we've had 25 years of Presidents who've helped Saddam and/or have ignored Al Quaida. BRAVO! I'd like to thank the Average American Voter for being a complete f***ing apathetic idiot. `
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Lianne Marten
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12-14-2005 01:11
"I think that the proposition of going to Baghdad is also fallacious. I think if we were going to remove Saddam Hussein we would have had to go all the way to Baghdad, we would have to commit a lot of force because I do not believe he would wait in the Presidential Palace for us to arrive. I think we'd have had to hunt him down. And once we'd done that and we'd gotten rid of Saddam Hussein and his government, then we'd have had to put another government in its place. What kind of government? Should it be a Sunni government or a Shi'i government or a Kurdish government or a Ba'athist regime? Or maybe we want to bring in some Islamic fundamentalists? How long would we have had to stay in Baghdad to keep that government in place? What would happen to the government once the U.S. forces withdrew? How many casualties should the United States accept in that effort to try to create clarity and stability in a situation a situation that is inherently unstable? I think it is vitally important for a president to know when to use military force. I think it is also very important for him to know when not to commit U.S. military force. And it's my view that the President got it right both times, that it would have been a mistake for us to get bogged down in the quagmire inside Iraq."
-Dick Cheney, the Washington Institute's Soref Symposium, April 29, 1991
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Jeffrey Gomez
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12-14-2005 01:19
Eh. It's more a matter of not understanding the question than not knowing/being able to access the answer, Hiro. "..." is because I didn't see a question on my first pass. Also, you have a hanging quote at the end of your post there. 
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Hiro Pendragon
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12-14-2005 01:25
From: Jeffrey Gomez Eh. It's more a matter of not understanding the question than not knowing/being able to access the answer, Hiro. "..." is because I didn't see a question on my first pass. Also, you have a hanging quote at the end of your post there.  Ah, I wasn't trying to put you down. I was trying to put down our f***tard politicians who've destroyed this country. And thanks about the /quote. I swear I killed that, but ... yeah.
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Blueman Steele
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12-14-2005 02:30
From: Jeffrey Gomez 1. Basement bomb if I recall. It was a failed attempt I only saw, briefly, on the news.
2. Clinton era saw some rather harrowing stories of hijackers and planes. Though at the time, these were far from a "hot topic"
3. No comment on your little funny... ... .....
4. Of course they're true. We kept him in power in many respects after Operation Desert Storm.
5 & 6. ...
Fact is, the current administration knows that fear tactics work. The War on Terror is this era's Communist Witchhunt and, as with the earlier regimes that brought that, it's a phase.
Either it goes downhill after this administration, or it doesn't. Fear tactics only go so far before people get tired and go on with their lives. Hopefully. That's not a timeline.. dates facts.... lets see 'em
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Jeffrey Gomez
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12-14-2005 02:49
From: Blueman Steele That's not a timeline..
dates facts.... lets see 'em Look. It's 6AM here. Are you really going to make me Wikipedia all of the above? 
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Chip Midnight
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12-14-2005 03:27
From: Hiro Pendragon 1993. Al Quaida was named as the organization behind it, one "mastermind" of the bombing was targetted, but Clinton did not go after Al Quaida. Not in 1993. He did in 1998 after the US embassies in eastern Africa were bombed. Cruise missiles were launched against several targets in Afghanistan and Sudan. The targets in Afghanistan were Al Qaeda training camps. The target in Sudan was a pharmacuetical factory that we accused of manufacturing chemical weapons.
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Hiro Pendragon
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12-14-2005 03:39
From: Chip Midnight Not in 1993. He did in 1998 after the US embassies in eastern Africa were bombed. Cruise missiles were launched against several targets in Afghanistan and Sudan. The targets in Afghanistan were Al Qaeda training camps. The target in Sudan was a pharmacuetical factory that we accused of manufacturing chemical weapons. You're talking cruise missile attacks. I was talking targeting as in "started a criminal investigation targeting the people involved."
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Bill Diamond
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12-14-2005 10:12
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