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Just Curious... If you were a dentist

Rose Karuna
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04-07-2006 09:33
Just curious, if you were a dentist and you were asked to remove the dental work for Uncle Sam, would you? I mean, these guys only stand "accused", they have not even been tried or convicted yet.

From: someone
Feds try to seize gold-capped teeth from drug suspects' mouth

Associated Press
Posted April 7 2006, 12:25 PM EDT


TACOMA, Wash. -- Talk about taking a bite out of crime.

Government lawyers tried to confiscate the gold tooth caps known as ``grills'' from the mouths of two men facing drug charges, saying the dental work qualified as seizable assets. They had them in a vehicle headed to a dental clinic by the time defense attorneys persuaded a judge to halt the procedure.

``I've been doing this for over 30 years and I have never heard of anything like this,'' said Richard J. Troberman, a past president of the Washington Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. ``It sounds like Nazi Germany when they were removing the gold teeth from the bodies, but at least then they waited until they were dead.''

Prosecutors had a warrant to seize the gold dental work, according to documents and lawyers involved in the case. But they eventually abandoned the effort, saying they mistakenly thought the grills were removable.

The customized tooth caps, popularized by rappers such as Nelly, are made of precious metals and jewels and can cost thousands of dollars for a full set. Some can be snapped onto the teeth, while others are permanently bonded to the teeth.

Flenard T. Neal Jr. and Donald Jamar Lewis both have permanently bonded grills, their lawyers said.

Neal and Lewis, both charged with several drug and weapon violations, were taken Tuesday from the Federal Detention Center to the U.S. marshal's office, where they were told the government had a warrant to seize the grills. They called their lawyers as they were about to be taken to a dentist, said Miriam Schwartz, Neal's public defender.

A permanent stay of the seizure order was issued that day by U.S. Magistrate J. Kelley Arnold, court documents show.

``Asset forfeiture is a fairly routine procedure, and our attorneys were under the impression that these snapped out like a retainer,'' said Emily Langlie, a spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office in Seattle.

The defense lawyers criticized what they said was a clandestine attempt to have the grills removed.

``It's shocking that this kind of action by the federal government could be sought and accomplished in secret, without anyone being notified,'' said Zenon Peter Olbertz, who represents Lewis. ``It reminds me of the secret detentions'' in terrorist cases.

Langlie and court clerks said seizure warrants are typically sealed to prevent defendants from trying to move or hide valuables and evidence. They become public with the filing of a return that shows what was seized.

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Sally Rosebud
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04-07-2006 09:40
Well, at least it makes sense a little bit...lol Can't really have that kinda stuff in prison ya know. Glad they didn't go ripping anybody's teeth out though.



I don't think this story will qualify as "wtf is wrong with Washington" though. :p
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04-07-2006 09:48
From: Sally Rosebud

I don't think this story will qualify as "wtf is wrong with Washington" though. :p


what if we combine it with this?
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Rose Karuna
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04-07-2006 09:59
From: Taco Rubio
what if we combine it with this?



Awww - poor little Beaver. Seems a lot of critters in Washington State have teeth problems. :p

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Sally Rosebud
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04-07-2006 09:59
That may qualify as a "wtf is wrong with Idaho" since they brought the beaver to a vet school in WA... You know the vets are gonna try to save it! That's what they do!



Oh, and to answer the original question, if I was that dentist, I'd take a look and tell them those "grills" were permanently attached and I wouldn't take them off. :D
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Lorelei Patel
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04-07-2006 10:14
Tempest in a teapot:

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Prosecutors had a warrant to seize the gold dental work, according to documents and lawyers involved in the case. But they eventually abandoned the effort, saying they mistakenly thought the grills were removable.


They thought they could be easily removed. When the judge realized they couldn't, he stayed the order.

I agree though. Wait til they're convicted, then bring out the sadi... er, dentists.

Heck, if prison meant the prospect of facing dental work sans novacaine, that might be a workable deterrant.
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Siobhan OFlynn
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04-07-2006 10:55
If I were a dentist, no, I would not. Because that would require a signed consent and I'm sure the inmates wouldn't sign a consent form. Even if a judge signed a court order permitting the procedure, I'd still say no.
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