Can you go too far defending free speech?

Free speech is great and part of what makes America great.

When someone uses that right to speak out about what they consider morally wrong that their argument is often depreciated by others who declare that since all of Secondlife is a form of expression that it is all therefore protected by the first amendment...

You also have the right to Freedom of silence, you have no duty to defend things that you consider morally wrong.
Without going into the law -- which really doesn't apply here anyway -- freedom of speech has limitations.

I say we should discuss points based on merit. The over usage of "My opinion beats yours because I can say you can't say that." is a big part of the reason Americans are considered total morons abroad.

How do you edit a post.. I saw a grammatical typo after posting. It hould read:


Free speech is great and part of what makes America great.

When someone uses that right to speak out about what they consider morally wrong, their argument is often depreciated by others who declare that since all of Secondlife is a form of expression that it is all therefore protected by the first amendment...

You also have the right to Freedom of silence. You have no duty to defend things that you consider morally wrong.
Without going into the law -- which really doesn't apply here anyway -- freedom of speech has limitations.

I say we should discuss points based on merit. The over usage of "My opinion beats yours because I can say you can't say that." is a big part of the reason Americans are considered total morons abroad.

To edit a post you usually see an "edit" button at the bottom right of your posts, where you usually see a quote button for other peoples. But I see your forum title shows you as a guest (which I know you're not ), but it may be stopping you.

Alot of us don't live in America.

The right of speech is the right to think. This is the point of free speech. You cannot blame the quality of thought, however, on the system-only the speaker. If Americans speak from ignorance, it is because they choose to be so: they do not pay attention in school, do not choose to think critically and understand beyond that which they are told by media, and they choose to say I don't need to know anything else.

Ignorance is a choice, and it is one we make as a society. So be it. But do not compromise a good principle-freedom of speech-because you do not like to hear the cacophony of opinion.

Huh?

Stoopid GD USAers. Scroo them!

Noooo, I believe there's a bit more to it than that.

Along with free speech, goes responsibilty for what you say. The problem I see a lot, is a person will say something stupid and then hide behind freedom of speech.

Just because somebody says something I disagree with doesn't mean I don't want them to say it. I do have the freedom to not listen

I think it goes too far when people start injuring or killing people just because they don't like or agree with what the other person says.

is free as long you don't dare say anything against the current administration....

*talk amongst yourselves*



Troy

PS. Come on I am just trying to sustain the supply of drama for those who are in need. Don't hate the messenger hate the operating system.

Moved to Off-Topic

I think that law only applies in Texas

There's a key problem with your arguement.

In America you are indeed given the right to say whatever you want (baring a few restrictions on enciting violence, defamation of character or shouting 'Fire' when there is none).

And LL is entirely within their rights not to let you use their platform to do it. Just as a newspaper is within it's rights to not let you write for it, or a book publisher, ISP/Server and any other private company is allowed to not let you use their services to say certain things.

You can always go build your own version of SL though.

oooo Burn. Girl, you're feisty but hey, I hear ya. You're good, you're good.

And PS. Double Burn for getting the thread moved to Off topic.

And PPS. User named Webpage, I think you've reached your daily quota of new threads by a non-premium user. ;-p

As Tom Cruise says,

Much love,

Troy

You not only have the freedom not to listen, you have the freedom to tell them you think they're full of shit. And its that last one that that more frequently gets trampled on I think.





Indeed...or even for the cartoons they draw.

True enough. SL is under no legal obligation to requirement to ensure free speech or expression on the forums. I would suggest, however, its probably better for business to try to accomodate ideal that as best they can (as best their lawyers feel comfortable with letting them more specifically ).

The problem as I see it is that people often think that freedom of speech includes freedom from speech. People actually think they have the right to not read or hear something. As I see it, everyone has the right to express themselves and everyone has the obligation to behave like adults when they hear things they don't like.

What? You mean I DON'T have the right to not read things? You mean that I HAVE TO read things or listen to things someone else believes I should? Who gets to decide if not me?

I think you need to go to the "necessarium", sit on the throne, and think this out again. Be sure to take some reading material with you - something really disgusting - and your iPod with some music that normally makes you nauseous. Don't come out until the reading material and audio no longer affects you. Shake. Stir. Repeat.

See the error of your argument now?

You must listen and read what I say, because I have special powers that will force you. Look around, notice all the posters who can't stand some threads but always post to those threads? That's my special powers at work. Be very careful, or you might be affected too.

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live

A more accurate translation of the original Greek (IIRC) would be "poisoner", instead of "witch".

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