National Embarrasment
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Jamie Bergman
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11-06-2005 16:16
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Jsecure Hanks
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11-06-2005 16:36
Hey come on, go easy on them... They're having a hard week...
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paulie Femto
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11-06-2005 16:39
Holy cr*p
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Schwanson Schlegel
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11-06-2005 16:53
Angry muslim youths with bombs, who would have thought?
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Dark Korvin
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11-06-2005 16:53
Sounds like the L.A. Riots to me. America has their own problems with racism in the police force. Maybe America should see what it has led to in France and start working on cleaning up our own police force.
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Jamie Bergman
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11-06-2005 17:09
From: Dark Korvin Sounds like the L.A. Riots to me. America has their own problems with racism in the police force. Maybe America should see what it has led to in France and start working on cleaning up our own police force. I didnt realize the LA riots spread throughout the nation. |
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Dark Korvin
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11-06-2005 17:34
From: Jamie Bergman I didnt realize the LA riots spread throughout the nation. Hmm, did the riots in France spread throughout the nation, or was there a list of cities it said were not frequented by tourist. Are these cities bigger than L.A when combined? |
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Dark Korvin
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11-06-2005 18:11
From: Jamie Bergman I didnt realize the LA riots spread throughout the nation. Just because it hasn't been that big here, doesn't mean it can't get that big. We certainly have rough times ahead thanks to George Bush and mother nature hitting us with costly things at the same time. Its not a huge leap of imagination to think about what may happen to America as taxes raise and poverty increases combined with the problems similar to the ones described in France with our police forces. Just because our incident was smaller in the past, doesn't mean a bigger one couldn't occur here in the future. On a side note, with the extended tours of duty, men being called back to duty after being discharged, and purple hearts going through court martials in the military today; do you think that more deranged people are in society than say during the time of Timothy McVeigh. |
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Ellie Edo
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11-06-2005 18:14
My third son moved to Paris in September. Ten days ago he was singing its praises as the safest most harmonious capital he has ever seen, with absolutely no drunken behaviour or violence or conflict on the streets.
Now HE's embarassed. He lives and teaches in a nice bit (international school).
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Leilany LaFollette
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11-06-2005 20:00
Riots can happen anywhere :  hrug::
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Lordfly Digeridoo
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11-06-2005 20:06
From: Leilany LaFollette Riots can happen anywhere : hrug:: Yeah, but this one seems to be a direct result of French society being rather hostile to "foreigners". From the accounts I've read it seems that French society doesn't really assimilate new cultures/ideas very well, as opposed to the US, which, while far from perfect, does a decent job of (eventually) assimilating people and absorbing their take on the world. Within a generation or two, people are more likely to call themselves Americans, regardless of their grandparents (or parents)' heritage, while still keeping a lot of traditions and cultural marks from the "old country". Almost everything in American culture is borrowed. This is a result of a society politely ignoring the problems it faces, and the result is apparently pretty violent. Also pretty shocking that this is going on 2 weeks of constant rioting... LF
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Lo Jacobs
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11-06-2005 20:13
I don't understand how this would be a national embarrassment, other than the possibility that you hate the French irrationally like the rest of the US?
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Leilany LaFollette
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11-06-2005 20:19
From: Lordfly Digeridoo Yeah, but this one seems to be a direct result of French society being rather hostile to "foreigners". True, but still not surprising. The French have never hidden their distaste of almost everybody else, even if they are 3rd. generation French. From: Lordfly Digeridoo From the accounts I've read it seems that French society doesn't really assimilate new cultures/ideas very well, as opposed to the US, which, while far from perfect, does a decent job of (eventually) assimilating people and absorbing their take on the world. I'm afraid I don't agree with you there  There's a lot of hostility in this country towards foreigners. Even before 9/11. Which is stupid... considering everybody here comes from somewhere else, except for the natives. From: Lordfly Digeridoo Within a generation or two, people are more likely to call themselves Americans, regardless of their grandparents (or parents)' heritage, while still keeping a lot of traditions and cultural marks from the "old country". True But americans still see them as *something else / americans*, so there's always that feeling of not quite fitting in  Leilany
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Mickey Valentino
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11-06-2005 20:43
Well our own National embarrassment lives right in the White House. Since we're on the topic of France lets not forget how a great world leading assembly renamed French Toast and French Fries, "Freedom Toast" and "Freedom Fries" because a certain country wouldn't buy into our now proven pack of lies to go into an unjustified war. I'm just glad there are still a few countries with the courage and dignity to stand up for what is right and not follow along like sheople.
If you want more relevant comparisons lets look at the OJ Simpson riots (may as well call them what they were) and how we overturned an official judgement to appease the active few.
I hope all ends well in France as I still have a great admiration for their integrity and willingness to do whats right. Much like another great leader, on the rise, in South America.
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These are very sad times to be an American but where is the rage among the citizenry? Where are the flag wavers who so laud the freedoms symbolized by a flag and written by quill pens in our constitution? Why are we not rallying in the streets against this sort of attrocity? Why because we are gluttonous lazy bastards who say it won't happen to me so who cares. --Ishtar Pasteur
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Richie Waves
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11-06-2005 20:46
France protects its culture.. wat the hell is wrong with that????
has there never been rioting in america??
reaction to Katarina.. a national disgrace..
Bush.. a national disgrace
Richest country in the world with an internal 3rd world country a national disgrace..
Riots in france.. a problem.
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Enabran Templar
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11-06-2005 20:49
From: Mickey Valentino Much like another great leader, on the rise, in South America. I really hope you're not talking about Hugo Chavez.
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Lo Jacobs
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11-06-2005 20:54
From: Richie Waves France protects its culture.. wat the hell is wrong with that???? That is exactly the angle that some white supremacists take. I agree that this sucks for France, but give me a break. Some of their laws do suck fantastically for their immigrants and minorities. I'm no great scholar of French law though, only going on what I have read.
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Lordfly Digeridoo
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11-06-2005 20:56
From: Mickey Valentino
If you want more relevant comparisons lets look at the OJ Simpson riots (may as well call them what they were) and how we overturned an official judgement to appease the active few.
Rodney King called. He wants his riots back.
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Enabran Templar
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11-06-2005 20:58
From: Lordfly Digeridoo Rodney King called. He wants his riots back. Don't be like that, Lordfly. Respect the alternate universe in which he was born.
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Jamie Bergman
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11-06-2005 21:46
From: Lo Jacobs I don't understand how this would be a national embarrassment, other than the possibility that you hate the French irrationally like the rest of the US? Ha ha ha... yeah, I mean, its totally cool when a bunch of hoodlums come to my neighborhood and tear sh*t up and firebomb it. La dee da... yeah, its a non-event. |
