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Starax Statosky

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Join date: 23 Dec 2003

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02-21-2006 14:50

Warning:

I just spent a few hours adding a feature to a script and I'd almost finished and the [explitive deleted] thing reverted back to what it was three hours earlier!!.

I'd send a bug report, but that's like telling the fridge that you have cancer. Does it really care? Is it even listening? Who knows?

I've noticed on a few occasions that an object's contents folder can revert back to a previous state for no apparent reason. But on those ocassions I had only lost an object that I had added to the contents folder. This meant that I could just once again drop the missing object back into the contents folder again and life was tolerable. But I can't do that with a script that was edited while inside the contents folder. It's gone!!!

I'm not happy!!! I demand to see Donald [explitive deleted] Duck!! or somebody!!!

* screams like a girl *

Ares Desmoulins

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Join date: 13 Sep 2005

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02-21-2006 14:59

ouch, i've been working on scripts when i crashed; was not fun. Since then, i found using scitez offline, then uploading when done is the safest bet =)

Candide LeMay

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Posts: 538

02-21-2006 15:06

Yeah... I've had notecards reverting their contents on me as well. I just edit text/scripts outside of SL now.

Starax... please stop attacking fridges!

Fridges of the world: (cue in Faith No More tune ...) WE CARE A LOT!

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Starax Statosky

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02-21-2006 15:09

From: Ares Desmoulins

ouch, i've been working on scripts when i crashed; was not fun. Since then, i found using scitez offline, then uploading when done is the safest bet =)

I didn't crash. Or maybe I did and didn't notice. Perhaps I was abducted by aliens, given a good probing.. Whilst all this was going on. They left an alien behind who accidentally crashed my session of Second Life and then relogged for me before the mothership came back with his chums. They then erased my memory and plonked me back down in my chair without me even knowing. Well thanks to Second Life's failings. I think I now know about those little green bastards and their bad ways.

Osgeld Barmy

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Posts: 3,336

02-21-2006 16:31

i dunno if this applys, but i used to have a bad habbit of closing the scripting window before its done saving... 9 out of 10 times it goes about its merry way and does it's job, but that 1 time really is a pisser

Starax Statosky

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02-21-2006 16:43

From: Osgeld Barmy

i dunno if this applys, but i used to have a bad habbit of closing the scripting window before its done saving... 9 out of 10 times it goes about its merry way and does it's job, but that 1 time really is a pisser

Okay. I've calmed down now

As far as I'm aware. It happens with attachments only. The trick is, if you're editing a script in an attachment. Make sure you detach it now and then. It seems that attachments live in some flakey place in a sim's memory. Perhaps this place gets reset/flushed out now and then. Then reset with the original items from your inventory. God knows... or quite possibly Mickey Mouse.

Fenrir Reitveld

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Join date: 20 Apr 2005

Posts: 459

02-21-2006 17:29

Yes, it's best to either port or log out while wearing attachments after modding them. It seems attachments don't get saved with the same frequency as in-world rezzed objects, so be careful modifying the scripts or the prims themselves.

That got me a few times, too.

Strife Onizuka

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Join date: 3 Mar 2004

Posts: 5,887

02-21-2006 18:15

I'm sorry to hear your story of woe Starax.
I've found that dropping attachments and reattach ever so often saves them as well.

I think this thread best belongs in Tech Support...

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Max Case

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02-21-2006 21:25

my sympathies starax - i've had it happen too.
One habit I developed is to keep SciTE or BBEdit open, and regularly do a copy from inworld/ paste & save to my external editor, just to keep a relatively current version backup just in case.

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Ben Bacon

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02-22-2006 05:25

SciTE-ez and lslint - "It's the only way to fly"

From: Starax Statosky

I demand to see Donald Fucking Duck!! or somebody!!!

Welllll, that's probably not gonna happen. Duck is still in the AV industry, but she has changed her stage-name to "Swan" now that she's older than 18. The bigger problem is that Donald has left to pursue "less-artistic" (i.e. commercial) roles. Rumour has it he's hoping to be the next Batman.

Eep Quirk

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Join date: 15 Dec 2004

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detached, copied, modified, taken attachments cause problems

02-22-2006 07:31

From: Fenrir Reitveld

Yes, it's best to either port or log out while wearing attachments after modding them. It seems attachments don't get saved with the same frequency as in-world rezzed objects, so be careful modifying the scripts or the prims themselves.

That got me a few times, too.

It gets me a lot too--and is VERY annoying! When making my smurf avatars, I have to make sure I don't detach a part and rez a copy because if the copy is changed, then worn, and detached (or is that changed and taken--who knows?), the original is deleted or the appears outside of all inventory folders (or is that the copy--who knows?) and SL will most likely crash if that object is attemped to be moved/rezzed. Coming back will either show the original object gone completely or outside of all inventory folders prompting another crash if it is moved/rezzed. Yes, I've bug reported this. No, it's not even on the known issues list.

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Starax Statosky Unregistered User Join date: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,099	02-21-2006 14:50 Warning: I just spent a few hours adding a feature to a script and I'd almost finished and the [explitive deleted] thing reverted back to what it was three hours earlier!!. I'd send a bug report, but that's like telling the fridge that you have cancer. Does it really care? Is it even listening? Who knows? I've noticed on a few occasions that an object's contents folder can revert back to a previous state for no apparent reason. But on those ocassions I had only lost an object that I had added to the contents folder. This meant that I could just once again drop the missing object back into the contents folder again and life was tolerable. But I can't do that with a script that was edited while inside the contents folder. It's gone!!! I'm not happy!!! I demand to see Donald [explitive deleted] Duck!! or somebody!!! * screams like a girl *
Ares Desmoulins Registered User Join date: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 22	02-21-2006 14:59 ouch, i've been working on scripts when i crashed; was not fun. Since then, i found using scitez offline, then uploading when done is the safest bet =)
Candide LeMay Registered User Join date: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 538	02-21-2006 15:06 Yeah... I've had notecards reverting their contents on me as well. I just edit text/scripts outside of SL now. Starax... please stop attacking fridges! Fridges of the world: (cue in Faith No More tune ...) WE CARE A LOT! _____________________ "If Mel Gibson and other cyberspace writers are right, one day the entire internet will be like Second Life." -- geldonyetich
Starax Statosky Unregistered User Join date: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,099	02-21-2006 15:09 From: Ares Desmoulins ouch, i've been working on scripts when i crashed; was not fun. Since then, i found using scitez offline, then uploading when done is the safest bet =) I didn't crash. Or maybe I did and didn't notice. Perhaps I was abducted by aliens, given a good probing.. Whilst all this was going on. They left an alien behind who accidentally crashed my session of Second Life and then relogged for me before the mothership came back with his chums. They then erased my memory and plonked me back down in my chair without me even knowing. Well thanks to Second Life's failings. I think I now know about those little green bastards and their bad ways.
Osgeld Barmy Registered User Join date: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 3,336	02-21-2006 16:31 i dunno if this applys, but i used to have a bad habbit of closing the scripting window before its done saving... 9 out of 10 times it goes about its merry way and does it's job, but that 1 time really is a pisser
Starax Statosky Unregistered User Join date: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,099	02-21-2006 16:43 From: Osgeld Barmy i dunno if this applys, but i used to have a bad habbit of closing the scripting window before its done saving... 9 out of 10 times it goes about its merry way and does it's job, but that 1 time really is a pisser Okay. I've calmed down now As far as I'm aware. It happens with attachments only. The trick is, if you're editing a script in an attachment. Make sure you detach it now and then. It seems that attachments live in some flakey place in a sim's memory. Perhaps this place gets reset/flushed out now and then. Then reset with the original items from your inventory. God knows... or quite possibly Mickey Mouse.
Fenrir Reitveld Crazy? Don't mind if I do Join date: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 459	02-21-2006 17:29 Yes, it's best to either port or log out while wearing attachments after modding them. It seems attachments don't get saved with the same frequency as in-world rezzed objects, so be careful modifying the scripts or the prims themselves. That got me a few times, too.
Strife Onizuka Moonchild Join date: 3 Mar 2004 Posts: 5,887	02-21-2006 18:15 I'm sorry to hear your story of woe Starax. I've found that dropping attachments and reattach ever so often saves them as well. I think this thread best belongs in Tech Support... _____________________ Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey
Max Case Registered User Join date: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 353	02-21-2006 21:25 my sympathies starax - i've had it happen too. One habit I developed is to keep SciTE or BBEdit open, and regularly do a copy from inworld/ paste & save to my external editor, just to keep a relatively current version backup just in case. _____________________ *max case Green(192,167) http://www.maxcase.info http://neighbours.maxcase.info
Ben Bacon Registered User Join date: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 809	02-22-2006 05:25 SciTE-ez and lslint - "It's the only way to fly" From: Starax Statosky I demand to see Donald Fucking Duck!! or somebody!!! Welllll, that's probably not gonna happen. Duck is still in the AV industry, but she has changed her stage-name to "Swan" now that she's older than 18. The bigger problem is that Donald has left to pursue "less-artistic" (i.e. commercial) roles. Rumour has it he's hoping to be the next Batman.
Eep Quirk Absolutely Relative Join date: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 1,211	detached, copied, modified, taken attachments cause problems 02-22-2006 07:31 From: Fenrir Reitveld Yes, it's best to either port or log out while wearing attachments after modding them. It seems attachments don't get saved with the same frequency as in-world rezzed objects, so be careful modifying the scripts or the prims themselves. That got me a few times, too. It gets me a lot too--and is VERY annoying! When making my smurf avatars, I have to make sure I don't detach a part and rez a copy because if the copy is changed, then worn, and detached (or is that changed and taken--who knows?), the original is deleted or the appears outside of all inventory folders (or is that the copy--who knows?) and SL will most likely crash if that object is attemped to be moved/rezzed. Coming back will either show the original object gone completely or outside of all inventory folders prompting another crash if it is moved/rezzed. Yes, I've bug reported this. No, it's not even on the known issues list.