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Horrible lag spikes after visiting casino, please help

Erika DeVinna
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Join date: 12 Dec 2006
Posts: 25
12-16-2006 12:59
Im very new to game only a few days old, but I havent experianced much lag, but today I was going through ads teleporting places and went to a casino that was empty, when I ported in my Prim hair and bracelet appeared below me on my feet and I couldnt move. Then I ported out to another location and now I have huge lag spikes everywhere I go. Its horrible and its not my connection Ive checked.

Is it possible someone has givin me a lag virus or script as even when I log off and back on nothing seems to help. I cant even play now it is horrible.

What could the possible problem be? Please help me :(


I dont know what to do now it is unplayable and no one else is experiancing this that I know, its not my connection either. Could I have been infected at this casino somehow, it started immediatly after going there and wont go away no matter how many times I log out and back in :(


The really odd thing is , that the textures load in normally but my first bar goes completely red on and off, I dont uncderstand it never does this. This is not like regular lag
Alexis Starbrook
CEO - Alexis Digital
Join date: 7 Dec 2006
Posts: 135
12-16-2006 13:28
You should restart your system the first thing. Moving to a heavilly graphixed area can put a strain on virtual memory.

I haven't heard of what you speak of happening to anyone else..sorry

The first bar I assume you mean the 2 bars in the upper right corner. That is the 'packet loss' bar if it goes completely red it means you are losing data between you and the SL server.

You could also try CTRL-SHIFT-1 which will show alot of tech data about your connection.

To my knowledge it is not possible to have a 'virus' infect you machine while on SL, but I could be wrong.

Hope you sort it out..
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Erika DeVinna
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Join date: 12 Dec 2006
Posts: 25
12-16-2006 13:58
I also notice my hair is off center and some other prims that were attached to my face, everything loading up fine except my character and every 5 seconds Im randomly stuck in one spot.

Im running a virus check now but not seeing anything, I was using the hippy machines right before I went to casino as well but Im willing to believe its one of the 2, nothing will fix. Im totally distraught.
SuezanneC Baskerville
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Join date: 22 Dec 2003
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12-16-2006 14:47
You might try doing a detach all, and put on one of the default avatars in the library, clear your cache, exit, restart.

If that doesn't work I'd uninstall SL and reinstall it.
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Erika DeVinna
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Join date: 12 Dec 2006
Posts: 25
12-16-2006 14:57
How do I clear my cache? Is it a folder in SL, I cant find?

In fact not just my head but EVERY prim on my body is now offset, and truly upsetting as I have spent much time getting them just right. Hours and hours heck maybe even an entire day total.


If I uninstall and reinstall will all my stuff be there or will I lose any items or data?

Is it all stored client-side so its safe to erase it all on my computer?

And what do you mean by default avatars in the library?

Sorry Im just a total noob and have been working hard on my avatar and dont want to lose anything.


I think Ill get some sleep and pray when I get back on this horrible lag issue is resolved and my Avatar is readjusted. I only been in game like 3 days and I am really enjoying but this has me highly upset, not only the lag spikes making it unplayable my Avatar is all offset.

Virus check complete and no problems, unless there is a lag script attached to my body somehow and offsetting my avatar. I dont know what cause this , literally I ported to this casino and my Prim hair and bracelet were around my knees and the lag begun. The wierd thing was , was that the hair and braclet were attached like they were still connected in unison just totally offset of the grid.

I TPed out and my hair was back on my head instead of around my knees but now EVERY Prim is offset on my body slightly

Please let me know the answers to those questions so I dont worry about losing presets or inventory.

Thank you very much :)
Erika DeVinna
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Join date: 12 Dec 2006
Posts: 25
12-17-2006 00:22
Well I have fixed the problems with my avatar, in an attempt to cut down the lag, I played with my settings and apparently the mesh distance will cause prims to look offset.

But it also got me thinking how do others view you in SL? maybe I look off to them.

Perhaps I should adjust my avatar on low setting as I would hate to be appearing to others with big wholes in my hair and so forth?

The monster lag seems to be a huge issue still. It came out of nowhere as I have been playing for 3 days prior with no issues, I cleared the cache. But I notice parts of the database and grid are completely missing. So apparently there are some big issues with the game atm, So I hope it will be resolved when those issues are.


Any suggestions on particular setting that might cut my first lag meter from spiking to red? Ive tried and not coming up with anything?
SuezanneC Baskerville
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Join date: 22 Dec 2003
Posts: 14,229
12-17-2006 13:14
Second Life is not a polished system that works well almost all the time. It's more the opposite, something is going wrong almost the time. Some problems are relatively minor, like not showing all the avatars in a crowd, other times the problems are pretty serious in terms of being able to enjoy yourself or do building and scripting or other content creation, such as chat lag, objects you are trying to position moving back to a previous position, and other times the problems are extremely severe, such as loosing inventory or builds permanently that were paid for with hard earned cash and or irreplacable hours of one's life. It is a rarity that I have a session of SL that doesn't have some kind of technical problem. When I do have a session of SL without problems it is most likely due to my having learned to just not try many of the programs functions because they will almost inevitably fail and cause me more aggravation than pleasure.

I strongly recommend that new users make full use of the F1 help, by which I mean read every single bit of it. It's pretty good help, written reasonably clearly, and covers a lot of questions that new users frequently have. One doesn't need to remember it all from one reading, but you might remember that the answer to a question that comes up is in there, even if you don't remember what the answer is.

The two bars at the top right of the screen show packet loss and bandwidth use. I get the packet loss bar turning yellow and red a lot for no apparent reason, same as it sounds like you do. This occurs in sims when I am the only person in the sim, with extremely low prim count and very few scripts running, with no sounds coming in, with practically no bandwidth being used. I believe this is fairly common. I don't know what the problem is or what to do about it.

You may have flexi-prim hair, possibly with a very large number of flexing strands. Flexi-prims in large quantity are computionally expensive and can tax a person's computer beyond what it's capable of doing well. The only solutions to that I can think of would be to reduce the "Flexible Mesh Detail" in the preferences, change your hair, or upgrade your computer system.

It is indeed the case that the way avatars and objects appear on your screen is not the same as how they appear on others. Sometimes you may appear to be sitting on your screen, but other's see you as standing. Sometimes your face appears normal to you, but is stuck in an open mouth fearful position to others. Objects that appear perfectly aligned on a system with the Object Mesh Detail set to high may appear misaligned on a system with the Object Mesh Detail set lower than maximum. Some of the "different appearance to different user" problems are the results of flaws in the Second Life system, others are unavoidable given that people's computers and video cards are different.

From my experience the single most important setting for altering SL's performance is draw distance. This may not have any bearing on your problem at all, but there have been a number of times when I have set my draw distance up high and forgotten to set it down, resulting in a little period where I am annoyed and confused about why things are so laggy before I remember to check the draw distance. I believe the common draw distance for most folks with average computers now is 128. I'd really like to have mine set higher, but it just doesn't work too well, and 128 is far enough to keep me from being annoyed all the time from not seeing far enough.


If you have attachments that allow you to copy them, you can get them positioned properly and make several copies. If one copy gets screwed up you can switch to another one.

When you get your appearance set to suit you, you may want to do a "Make Outfit" in the Appearance editor.

There are two main divisions, two topmost level folders in our Inventories. My Inventory and Library. Library holds the stuff that we all get when we start. There are a number of premade avatars in there as well as some basic building items, textures, go-cart that is a lot of fun to play with, and other such paraphenalia. Going somewhere you can pull out your Library items and see what they are and fiddling and playing with them is a good thing to do, and it can't hurt a bit to try out every one of the avatars in there. There are times when something goes wrong with one's regular avatar that gets fixed by changing to one of the Library avatars and back to your regular or currently desired one.

To clear your cache, do Control P to bring up preferences, click the Network button, click the Clear Cache button, and exit and restart SL.

You might be able to get your packet loss red bar from occuring so much by changing the Maximum Bandwidth slider in the Network tab of preferences, which is in the same place that the Clear Cache button described above is.

If you aren't in the New Citizen group, I recommend it. It is a good source of help, free stuff, useful information, and a good place to find people to chat with and maybe become friends with.

A thing to consider when thinking of getting things like complex flexi-hair or attachments with complex scripts in them is that even though your system may deal with them adequately, the systems of the people you are around may not be, so instead of impressing them with your cool outfit you may be lagging them out and annoying them instead.

Well enough of me writing, time for someone else to have a turn.
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Erika DeVinna
Fresh To Death
Join date: 12 Dec 2006
Posts: 25
12-17-2006 21:30
thanks so much for all the feedback I really appreciate it. :)

My lag seemed to go away last night. I could still use less drain on it though for sure.

I think its unfortunate that there is not a limit to things you can place on your avatar. I was at a club earlier and it was already busy and someone came in with a Princess dress that had probably 100+ prims or flexy on it maybe more. It lagged me so bad I had to leave. Just ruined my evening. Actually after a while I just crashed from it. The minute she loaded into room I got so framey it was horrible. People should really use some common sense when it comes to things like that, its not even cool.

From what I understand there are prim limits on property why arent there any on avatars? There really should be. While my comp isnt state of the art, it isnt half bad either.

IMAO things like that should be banned in clubs and high traffic areas even more than weapons should be, its just truly ignorant.
Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
12-18-2006 06:49
From: Erika DeVinna
From what I understand there are prim limits on property why arent there any on avatars? There really should be. While my comp isnt state of the art, it isnt half bad either.
The problem is that it doesn't take a lot of prims to slow you down, it just takes enough of the wrong sort of prims. Flexiprims don't really cause as much problem as people think, because they're given *last* priority by the computer... they interfere with each other but even a lot of flexiprims don't slow your frame rate down that much.

The worst things for your frame rate are twisted toruses. A single twisted torus can have more complexity than a dozen flexiprims, and fancy hair is almost always made of twisted toruses.
Ray Musketeer
Registered User
Join date: 22 Oct 2005
Posts: 418
12-18-2006 08:01
TO CLEAR CACHE
Either before you log in or while in game go up to edit> preferences>network> clear cache
It will take effect on log in . A year ago I could get away with not clearing the cache a few days or so without too much problem these days its every couple hours and if I fly over many sims or see too much, (meaning my video card is getting overwhelmed) it neccesitates another clearing of the cache. You might also de frag your hard drive, delete all temporary Internet files & cookies (some hold spyware that robs a little memory). GL