What about detection of Bots

I always hear from people "LL can't you then stop this Copybot", and the answer is always "No there is no way to stop it". Fine, but, if there would be a detection system server side for botting and other abnormal activities client side, that would actually help find perhaps not all, but quite a good number of the abusers, to have copies removed and accounts banned, and would give then content creators some security back. Like it works in a lot of online games out there that have hack/cheat detection.

I cant think that there isnt a way to watch on clients activity and see if it may be a bot.

Already the fact that there is the need for now to log in with the bot and the own account in the same Sim in order to steal things, is a good start point for detection. Two clients, same IP.

LL owns the database and it is the database informations flow to the client that is abused to get copies, and is the database that gets the input from the bot to make new items, so you own it, you should try to protect it.

You cant seriously think that content creators can find stolen items inworld, there can be one million copies around but all in inventories not rezzed.

If you avoid completely the arm race with abusers, its like releasing a software that has no security but works with real money. IF you want that, then do so, but you have then the onus to tell in your web sites and TOS text, that you do "recognizes Residents' right to retain full intellectual property protection for the digital content they create in Second Life", but that there is no working system from your side to fight theft.

Either fight against theft or warn new and old users that you arent fighting it. Otherwise you are doing deceptive advertising.

I'm not seeing a question here, but the discussion regarding different ways to deal with bots might be an interesting one for the tech board.

You could start with that, but I think you'll find many avatars with identical IPs. Internet Cafes, friends sharing a connection ...

how many time is it needed to say that there are NO technical solution to solve this

Are you qualified to say this?

trust me i have enough understanding of client/server systems to state this.

Bah. There are always solutions. Just not ones people tend to like.

Require a doubley encrypted key with a randomly generated challenge and response for the official client otherwise the log in is tagged as a bot.

This allows the bot to be monitored but still allowed legitimate use of libsl which the lindens want to support.

Until somebody figures out how to code the challenge response for the LIBSL client, which would take about a day.

Yes, there are always solutions. But none of them can withstand the onslaught of thousands of bored programmers. It is better to fight battles you can win instead of tilting at windmills.

Because most solutions people come up usually introduce problems that will affect legitimate users.

pub/private keys, double encryption... Anything done by the client can be reproduced in LibSL later, or more likely, sooner.

Ok then, lets just remove unverifieds.

I'm not betting on that happening anytime soon.

I vouch for Kyrah Abattoir being qualified to make those statements.