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Loading SL is changing my Monitor settings

Jonquille Noir
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04-14-2005 13:23
Very strange occurences here.. Since I downloaded the update today, loading SL in a window is changing my monitor brightness and making lightly colored things too bright to see, not only in SL but in all other applications. SL is the only program that is causing this effect and the monitor is fine otherwise. Things go back to normal when I close down SL.

Edited to add update: It's the in-game Gamma settings. They're affecting other programs besides SL; IE, GIMP, etc etc.
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Alan Palmerstone
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04-14-2005 23:43
We are having this happen as well. Extremely annoying. Especially since we just got a new 19" LCD monitor. The brightness changes are very apparent on it.

This is a junior programmer mistake, to allow the application to suddenly take over the whole machine's settings.

/waits for next patch to the patch to the patch to the upgrade
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Torley Linden
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04-14-2005 23:55
Yeah this was very weird 'cuz Gamma was broken for 1.6 and 1.6.1, and now that it's fixed, it's like WHOA! "I wear my sunglasses at night" and all that good stuff. Good to know that it can be adjusted. ;)
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04-15-2005 00:34
From: Torley Torgeson
Yeah this was very weird 'cuz Gamma was broken for 1.6 and 1.6.1, and now that it's fixed, it's like WHOA! "I wear my sunglasses at night" and all that good stuff. Good to know that it can be adjusted. ;)


I caught the wink, but I really want to make sure the Lindens catch it as well. This was posted to the hotline 11 hours ago without a response.

It's not good that it can be adjusted, as it is more broken now than before. If you adjust it in SL to make it look passable, then really can't use any other applications at the same time, as they are too washed out to see. Having to log out of SL to look up something or use design software is not a good thing at all.

I hope the "programmer" who "fixed" the gamma bug feels really stupid right about now.
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Jonquille Noir
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04-15-2005 10:13
From: Torley Torgeson
Yeah this was very weird 'cuz Gamma was broken for 1.6 and 1.6.1, and now that it's fixed, it's like WHOA! "I wear my sunglasses at night" and all that good stuff. Good to know that it can be adjusted. ;)



Yeah, it can be adjusted.. I can adjust it so I can actually see SL and every other program on my computer is useless, or I can adjust it so SL is so dark I have to make every object Light and be too lagged to move, but be able to use other programs. Yay. Nice choices.

This needs to be fixed ASAP. SL is useless to me like this.
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Alan Palmerstone
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04-15-2005 22:48
This is happening on two machines in our house, one with a 6800GT Nvidia card and the other with an ATI 9800 pro. So it isn't a driver specific issue.

When are you guys gonna get on the stick and fix this?
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Torley Linden
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04-15-2005 22:54
From: Jonquille Noir
Yeah, it can be adjusted.. I can adjust it so I can actually see SL and every other program on my computer is useless, or I can adjust it so SL is so dark I have to make every object Light and be too lagged to move, but be able to use other programs. Yay. Nice choices.

This needs to be fixed ASAP. SL is useless to me like this.


One thing I'm very quickly wondering about is this:

What would be some good examples of games that have application-specific gamma changing? I remember there were some FPS games I played before where I could tweak gamma, but each of them affected gamma systemwide and I had to shut them down in order to restore settings. They weren't good multitaskers either, since they mostly took over my screen until I tabbed out.

Same with Nvidia's own control panels, affecting gamma systemwide it seems? I haven't been able to find more specific adjustements.

So what would be some programs SL should aspire to have its behavior adapted to, in this area? :)
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04-16-2005 00:00
Torley,

I appreciate where you are going with this, I really do. But, and I hope I can speak frankly here, it is not helping me. Right now I really need to hear from a Linden who can tell me either that it will be fixed or that I am full of shit and the programmer is being sent to my house to beat me up.

To answer your questions:

I just fired up Half-Life 2 and it was able to brighten the hell out of it and when I toggled back to my desktop, everything was as I left it. When I just tried it with SL, it took over my desktop and I can barely see half of this page.

The nvidia control panel SHOULD impact system wide, as it is for the card itself. When I look at my nvidia control panel, it says I am fine - when I am having to wear sunglasses. So the game is overriding the card in game, as it should, but also overriding it everywhere else, where it shouldn't.

I believe this is not a proper fix for whatever gamma issues they previously had. Some guidance from a Linden is once again requested.

Edited to add:

I didn't mean to come off like a dick here, I am just mad about this and would like a Linden response. No disrespect is intended towards Torley.
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Torley Linden
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04-16-2005 00:31
Hey Alan! I agree that I would like a Linden response about this too. :)

Only reason why I asked my question was to learn more, because I'm not a big gamer, and in my limited experience of games, I wasn't knowledgeable when it comes to more flexible behavior. Of course, I'm all about diversity, so I really like knowing that Half-Life 2 (which I've never played :( ) can do this well.

Reason why I mentioned Nvidia controls is because some of the controls like antialiasing have an "application-specific" checkbox. I wasn't sure what to expect in other areas, which is why I asked.

I'd rather ask and know than have more ???s over my head.

Thanks!
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04-16-2005 00:47
From: Torley Torgeson

Reason why I mentioned Nvidia controls is because some of the controls like antialiasing have an "application-specific" checkbox. I wasn't sure what to expect in other areas, which is why I asked.

Thanks!


You know, if it ends up being that, I am gonna scream! :eek:

I will try that out now.

Maybe you are helping after all...

Update:

No, that still didn't work. I even changed over the profile to an OpenGL game (Call of Duty) with the same results.

Thanks for talking me down, though. I needed it.
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08-27-2006 21:57
Anyone got a fix for this problem in the last several months? having the same issue with SL hijacking the system gamma, so that all running applications besides SL are washed out.

oddly it revert, NOT after I close SL, but rather when I open the advanced page for gamma/color settings.... without ever having actually APPLIED any changed settings...

Why exctly does SL need to modify Gamma system wide, and not window or instance specific anyways?

anyways, a PM or a response from someone that solved this would be greatly appreciated
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10-06-2006 14:44
Why hasn't this been fixed? This thread was so buried I had to dig it up in search.

No way this should be considered a "feature". :eek: