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Error in groupowned land

1Roger Cortes
Registered User
Join date: 5 Aug 2007
Posts: 2
09-25-2007 10:52
Hi all,
i am realy desperate and wanted to ask youre opinionm and advioce for the following issue.
I wil copy paste the ticket i wrote to the lindens about this in here to hopefully make it abit clear.
I hope that some one can give me some advice on how to solve this please.
The Ticket:

Ticket Summary
Ticket #: 4051-4254839
Status: Work in Progress
Date Created: 9/19/2007 3:23 PM PDT
Date Updated: 9/25/2007 10:33 AM PDT


Ticket Description
Summary: Wrong billing

Details: Hi , i wrote some tickets before about my lost group name , after 8 days of trouble i decided yesterday to sell all land that i owned, from my group to myself again to try to get the problem with my group name solved.
As you can see in the included ticket number.
So yesterday i setted the 3 parcells for sale, and had alot of trouble doing that because a robot avatar stole the land(1 parcel) from me, after a few hours i could buy it back from the bot owner.
So i bought it back and own total again 4.608 m2
like it was the day before and before.
But now i look in my account and see that you(youre computer) have made my tier level up to 40 dollars now?.
So please change it back because i onley own what i owned before i sold it to myself as you can see in my account the error is that the parcel the last wich was stolen stil exists as deeded to a group(my group) but it doesnt exist wen you look in the parcel details.
So please again change it back, and about the group name problem , its stil the same even after i re bought it :-(.
I hope to hear from you so that i dont need to be concerned about the next bill date(i cant affort 40)
Greets from Roger from Holland.




Solution
Solved:
(9/25/2007 7:22 AM PDT) Hi 1Roger,

Thanks for your reply.

You have donated Land to 1RC Group (467m2). If you remove this donation you're maximum billable land will be 4608m2. Currentlt your billable land is 5075m2. Once you have removed this donation, please reply to this mail and I can readjust your billable usage. All land donated to groups also incurs fees.

Regards,

Kevin

Linden Lab Support


History

9/25/2007 10:33 AM PDT Provided Partial Information 1Roger_Cortes Cortes Hi Kevin , ok did you look at the picture i sended ?, there you wil see that there is no group land deeded wich exists, please please please just look at the pictures , how can you non existing group land for me?.
it is realy not there Kevin, as i told before i owned 3 parcel (deeded to me as group land) as due to group name issues i sold that same land to me so no more group but just the the same land in my ownership without anydeeding to a group as you wil see on the website under the page groupland wen you klik on the parcel name wich you say is deeded it wil say this parcel is not found.
So i am realy right about this.
So Yes please undeedd the not existing groupland and make it mine again (lol wich it is already).

9/25/2007 10:19 AM PDT Requested Information Kevin Ontyne Hi Roger,

Thanks for your reply.

As I have already said, I can remove this donation from your account details manually, but first I need you to tell me this is what you want me to do.

Regards,

Kevin

Linden Lab Support

9/25/2007 9:33 AM PDT Customer Posted a Comment 1Roger_Cortes Cortes Hi again , i just made some screenshots to show you what is wrong please look at it, it wil explain the error you made right away.
Thanks again.
Greets Roger
proof2.jpg
proof1.jpg
proof3.jpg
9/25/2007 9:17 AM PDT Reopened 1Roger_Cortes Cortes Hi , once again i tell you that if you looked it up right you wil see that i REALY DONT OWN that land wich is donated to a group.
As you look in my group land you wil see that the parcel dont exist.
So PLEASE read what i write and look what i say , there is no parcel deeded to a group !, the parcel wich is deeded to a group is not existing so it is an error.
so you are bringing me in deep trouble wen i need to pay more then i am needed to.
So please look at this once again and look if i deeded land to a group and if it stil exist.
You wil find the error and see i,m right.
I onley own 4608 m2 and nothing more.
So i wil not pay more then i am needed to simpley because i cant pay for something wich doesnt exist.
Wen i look at group land on youre website i see under the parcel wich you claim is deeded:No Parcel Found.
As you go look there then you wil see it is an error.
Thanks in advance.
Greets Roger from Holland
9/25/2007 7:22 AM PDT Sent Final Solution Kevin Ontyne (See solution)
9/21/2007 8:55 AM PDT Customer Posted a Comment 1Roger_Cortes Cortes Here some aditional info wich proofer i am right its copied from youre website from my group owned land list:
Your Account: 1Roger Cortes

Group Land
Group Name Donation
*~Summerside~* 0
1RC Group 467
No parcels found.
Animation Exchange 0
Full Throttle Land Rentals 0
LHP-RENTALS 0
NanoGunk Game Arena 0
Redneck 0
Scripters of Second Life 0
Scripters Support Group 0
Sick Pig 0
sky dancer 0
SL Scripters' Market 0
Templar's Coin 0
The Vortex 0
Total Donated Square Meters: 467


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as you see under the name 1RC group there is no parcel.
and it is counted thou?.

9/21/2007 8:50 AM PDT Provided Complete Information 1Roger_Cortes Cortes Hi again, i wil explain it again as you looked in my account you wil see onley 3 owned parcels 3 parcels wich are mine all the time o due to problems with my group name i sold all to myself so i own 3 group parcells wich i sell to me, then i dont own 3 group parcells but 3 parcels (in my ownership)so 3 minus 3 = zero,
0+3=3 so i onley own 3 parcels.
So i dont know if you looked in my account as i explained before also , the error is in the group land wich is THE SAME parcel as the owner land by me.
So you are realy making a big mistake here , with saying i own 5075.
while i onley own 4608 as you wil see if you look in my account and land ownership list.
Also wen you look in the group deeded land list you wil see that parcel(error) wich is owned twice (by my group and me)
So please again solve this isue ,
thanks verry much for youre time and greetings again 1RC.

9/21/2007 5:36 AM PDT Requested Information Kevin Ontyne Hi 1Roger,

Thank you for contacting us regarding your Land Fee query.

I have looked at your account, and you have 467m2 donated to a group, which brings your total Land at the moment up to 5075m2.

If you no longer wish to have this group donation I can remove it manually for you.

Regards,

Kevin

Linden Lab Support



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End Ticket

So as you can read above i tryed to explain several times that i own a parcel (deeded to my own group) wich doesnt exist.
I also gave 3 pictures of the screens of the pages on their website to show them the error but it dont help.
Please anyone some advice for about what to do?.
AWM Mars
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Join date: 10 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,398
09-26-2007 05:04
Take up Kevins offer to manually remove the 'group donated land' and see if that clears the issue. I may have been cached somewhere and needs resetting.
I am no authority on land behavour, but unless I am mistaken, isn't the donation to group owned land, something to do with liabilites which group members can offset (512sqmtrs allocation) which they do not have to pay teir on? It could be that it is a group member that is using that allocation and not you?
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1Roger Cortes
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Join date: 5 Aug 2007
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further information.
09-26-2007 08:39
Hi, wel there was no group member, all members are me lol.
So the problem was wen i bought back my own small parcel it didnt make it undeeded from the group, as it schould have wen selling land al setting go to default, but on this extra counted parcel it was stil deeded to the group.
So wen i looked on the website under my groupland i would see group land deeded to 1RC Alround Group, Parcel not found 0 m2.
So they wanted me to pay for something wich wasnt there.
I tryed to explain also that if i own 3 parcels all together are 4608 meter, and i sell all those 3 parcels to me i would own 4608 meter again , but the lindends gave me an extra parcel for free wich was the same parcel (1 of the tree) so just an error ,
but anyways i dont know what Kevin did after our last talk yesterday , i cant get in to my support page, but today al is back to were it schould be,
Now i own exactly 4608 m2 and onley pay 25 dollar tier a month like it was before.
So i gues the problem is solved and i was defenatly right about the error.

Issue Solved :-).

Greets to all
1Roger.