Failed to rez object messge and it disappears from inventory
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DBDigital Epsilon
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08-02-2007 05:56
There is a problem where if you rez a no copy object and get a "object failed to rez" message the object still looks like it is in inventory but if you relog you will get a "blocked symbol" not letting it be droped in-world. And if you clear the cache it will no longer be in inventory. Don't rez no copy items. And vote to get this issue fixed and tell LL to make a blog posting about this warning people. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-496-DB
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Caroline Ra
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08-02-2007 08:05
Just had the same problem...objects vanished from inventory after failing to rez. Voted on JIRA
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Decimo Demina
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08-02-2007 08:27
Same thing happened to me yesterday and today...I'm selling my now useless land and quitting before *I* disappear I think 
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Kitty Barnett
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08-02-2007 08:31
Always rez a copy item (that's not already rezzed on the sim you're on) from inventory first, if that rezzes, everything else will rez fine as well.
"Failure to rez" is generally a sim problem, not a grid-wide problem, so if it consistently happens on one sim, bug the sim owner, or submit a support ticket to have the sim restarted/looked at.
(If you're in a store buying something and it's no-build, attach something copy - that you haven't attached before - from inventory and if that fails, don't buy anything since you'll just end up loosing it)
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Caroline Ra
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08-02-2007 08:34
Kitty to the rescue again. I'll do a sim restart and see what happens then. Excellent idea about the 'rez a copy 1st' workround but....damn...it shouldnt be happening really
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Kitty Barnett
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08-02-2007 08:47
From: Caroline Ra Kitty to the rescue again. I'll do a sim restart and see what happens then. Excellent idea about the 'rez a copy 1st' workround but....damn...it shouldnt be happening really It's not quite a rescue, but hopefully helps a few things from getting lost  . The last time we had a "failed to rez" epidemic, it frequently happened on the Texas hosted sims (mostly class 5) and far less on the older sims  . I have land on three old(er) sims and rarely notice most of the wide-spread problems there.
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DBDigital Epsilon
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08-02-2007 09:02
Yes true I often use the "see if it rezes" method before hand, however I got bit this time by forgetting to do so first. At least it was a item that is fairly easy to replace in this case.
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Amethyst Rosencrans
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08-02-2007 12:36
I don't think the failure to rez is a sim problem from what I have seen. If I have problems in one of my sims I have problems in the others.
Ame
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Shakaila Kohime
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08-02-2007 12:53
I have to agree with Amethyst.. I had this problem yesterday, so went from my home to a different sim that has build enabled and still couldn't rez. Thank goodness Amethyst gives good customer service and replaced the (for me at least) rather expensive object I lost to this lovely bug that isn't even in the blog though it's been happening for almost a week at this point. Voted for it last night.
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Sheena Gelfand
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08-02-2007 14:11
I just had the samething happen but luckily the store owner replaced my 1100 skin that vanished when I tried to rezz the box. Now I am afraid to rezz it again in fear of loosing this one too.......sighs
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Briony McArdle
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08-02-2007 21:50
Yeah. I don't think this is a sim problem, or rather, it might be a sim problem and it's ability to maintain an object's "presence" in world and in the user's inventory. The sim I lost my collar in was fine at the time and later when I asked the land/store owner to assist me in finding it they said nothing was there. My guess is that things happen something like... User has item in inventory, which is some kind of "pointer" to the item located in the assets server. User drags "object" from inventory onto sim land which causes viewer to use the inventory pointer to retrieve item from asset server to hand to sim server but for some reason, sim server cannot get the object in a "good" order from central asset server. However, in the process of attempting to move item from asset server to sim server, the pointer to the actual glob of data in the asset server gets erased, overwritten, or otherwise kiboshed, instead of restored back to its value before the rez attempt was made. It's like another instance of a poorly done exception handling (i.e., things aren't handled nicely in the event of an unexpected happening). Just a guess by the by. I have cleared my cache and relogged several times now and item is still just gone. And finally, indeed. Props to Amethyst and her gracious policy of replacing lost collars. Thank you Amethyst.  Most of the other vendors of things like additional poses that I have been stuffing in the collar have been good as well. I encourage everyone to visit the link to the JIRA entry listed by the OP and here... https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-496And vote for this horrid flaw to be addressed and hopefully fixed.
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Cascadia Singh
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08-02-2007 23:45
I'm having this problem, too. Just bought some land, and now I'm having a hellish time trying to figure out whether I should build away and hope I only lose a *few* valuable furnishings or wait and see if LL fixes the problem (you know, rather than add more shiny new features that 2% of the SL population will ever use).
I really don't think this is a sim problem. When my koi weren't rezzing, I took them back to my first plot in another sim and still couldn't get them out. One plot's on an island, the other is mainland, and I had no luck with either.
Also, I do seem to be able to rez SOME objects, but it seems pretty hit-and-miss.
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Decimo Demina
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08-03-2007 00:18
I can rez a few items often as not, before everything goes screwy...so while I hope this workaround saves some people from losing items, it's not 100% reliable 
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Kitty Barnett
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08-03-2007 00:51
From: Amethyst Rosencrans I don't think the failure to rez is a sim problem from what I have seen. If I have problems in one of my sims I have problems in the others. I go with sim-specific problem since what I've noticed so far doesn't really make sense to me otherwise. If it was grid-wide since then it would happen to everyone everywhere and I've been rezzing items regularly with no errors, either by working on my house or sorting through old inventory (although I do tend to stick to the three sims I have land on since I know they're always stable and all three are in SF). It could be account-specific, but then if I have someone who is getting "failed to rez" on their land and I tp them over they can rez the item just fine so I don't think it can be that either. If all your sims are hosted in Texas, when it happens on all of yours, have you tried going to a SF hosted one and trying there?
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Rav Hartunian
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08-03-2007 04:34
From: Kitty Barnett I go with sim-specific problem since what I've noticed so far doesn't really make sense to me otherwise.
If it was grid-wide since then it would happen to everyone everywhere and I've been rezzing items regularly with no errors, either by working on my house or sorting through old inventory (although I do tend to stick to the three sims I have land on since I know they're always stable and all three are in SF).
It could be account-specific, but then if I have someone who is getting "failed to rez" on their land and I tp them over they can rez the item just fine so I don't think it can be that either.
If all your sims are hosted in Texas, when it happens on all of yours, have you tried going to a SF hosted one and trying there? And we know it's a SF hosted server how????? I am having this problem, too. I have lost aboit $1000L in hair so far. I am afraid to rez anything else. Everything that I rez that is no copy goes adios (no matter where I do it) and everything that is copyable I have no problem with.
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Samantha Sachertorte
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Failure to REZ Crap
08-03-2007 12:25
Thanks a bunch Linden You post a message in the Blog days after everyone has problems losing thier stuff YET again. Failure to Rez. That's it . GONE Your at it again LL. you just dont give a monkeys do you. All off a sudden you decide to tell us your trying to fix it. When the problem has been on going. When are you People at LL going to learn. You have read the forums the last week and seen you are being ripped to shreds by residents because of your incompetance. Your going to become a laughing stock in the world of 3d GFX if you dont buck up your ideas and get things sorted out and stop treating people like dirt You have been moaned about and complained about for months and months now, and still you dont care. I think after the last week of rubbish you have dealt us, you start sorting things out and letting people know whats going on. We have a right. I have now lost a lot of stuff yet again. I assume that you won't be making any recompence to anyone as usual. Why can't you get it into your heads Residents are now coming to the end of their patience with you, and in the end its only LL that will lose out, when everyone decides its time to quit, which a lot of people are now doing Enough is enough Once again very angry
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Lish Lach
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No Copy items are an unacceptable risk.
08-03-2007 13:11
Here is what Linden Labs should do to SOLVE this problem ONCE AND FOR ALL:
The No Copy property of an item should be changed to allow the owner to make multiple personal backup copies of the original item. These backup copies should be created with both No Copy and No Transfer properties set, insuring that they can only be used by the owner of the original item.
This change in the No Copy function would benefit both merchants and consumers alike, eliminating the need for merchants to provide customer support for replacement of lost No Copy items.
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Eristic Strangelove
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08-03-2007 14:13
From: Lish Lach This change in the No Copy function would benefit both merchants and consumers alike, eliminating the need for merchants to provide customer support for replacement of lost No Copy items. It's a persuasive idea and would benefit some merchants - but it would also half-kill the business of others. If you're a landlord buying prefabs or furnishing homes you'd able to buy just one of everything and rez endless (profit-making) copies for you and your tenants...not very fair to furniture or prefab designers?
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