Reasons why I wouldn't subscribe to SecondLife

LL sucks with patches I mean, do you people even test them for peat sakes?!

Land costs to much - Yes yes i know, your first land is free, but with what? 150 prims, ya can't do a whole lot. And everythings so clustered...if this were anything like rl we'd all be skewered in warfare, course, you could always climb your 3d bum up to 400 m and build ya dreamhouse there.

Lindens cost to much to get land

Monthly fee for owning land

To much downtime - Sure SL doesn stay down long, but is there ever a period longer than a week when it's up? It seems its down at least once or twice a week..and SL isn't entirely friendly with people on wireless, while I can play games like Day of Defeat or WoW or City of Heroes or many other MMO's.

Customer service is sadly a little poor, lindens dissapear to fast when helping people, I know theres only a few, but that's not my fault now is it?

It's free...how is that a complaint? because it allows all these idiots who attempt to grief the living daylights out of things onto SL.

On a scale of 1-10 SL gets a 7.5

Ok! Bye!!

So, let me condense your arguments:

(1) It's too expensive!

(2) It's too cheap!

Oh dear.

Well done Andy for eloquently expressing the usual oft repeated un-thought out comments posted by these whingers.

Just curious...is someone a year old really a newb still? Or did you just run out of insults for the time being?

SL is simply this....the right idea with the wrong execution of that idea. What has made SL difficult to work with was the opening up to free accounts. Once SL was made free....the numbers came in droves..and put a major load on the SL Data Base, bigger than it could handle. Now...that said...it is still ground breaking technology. They should just limit the number of free accounts that they give out each month. Eventually then, the technology would catch up with the work load. Just my opinion though.

Mykal

For all the problems that you listed you still give a 7.5? So, once they get over the growing pains that they have currently, it should be a really good program to use.

If you want cheaper land, go with a PI, they have some really good prices and a tier system that is cheaper the LL.

And just a side note, there were plenty of griefers trying to take the grid down long before free accounts were allowed.

Actually I think that's the best workaround that I've heard. It gets new users in to fuel the economy, would keep the grid stable because LL would know the max operating constraint and new users wouldn't be put off because the grid was unstable (an issue nobody seems to mention). You could also add in that any free account who is logged on less than 10% say of month is struck off and has to queue/apply again. And of course the undeniable benefit is that the population will grow in line with LL's ability to cope with it. Get's my vote if it becomes a proposal.

Sy Beck

First land?? Haha, good joke.
I signed up with my modeling team to create content for Sl and we ended up buying land cause there was no first land available for us for ages. Now we got places all over SL and have to TP from one place to another. And since the land is all on private sims it is not part of the tier etc. Still being told by linden that I own land now and so wont be able to get any first land ......so funny you guys. Glad we didnt go for that island we wanted to get.

Quoting Fenleab, (me in red)

LL sucks with patches I mean, do you people even test them for peat sakes?!Testing does happen... more testing would be better, obviously.

Land costs to (too) much - Yes yes i know, your first land is free (No, it's L$1 per square meter, if I recall correctly, more for new sims), but with what? 150 prims (117) , ya can't do a whole lot. And everythings so clustered...if this were anything like rl we'd all be skewered in warfare, course, you could always climb your 3d bum up to 400 m and build ya dreamhouse there.

Lindens cost to (too again) much to get land

Monthly fee for owning land (yes, there is one.)

To (TOO!) much downtime - Sure SL doesn stay down long (Actually on wednesday patch days it can be down for 5 hours or more, which many feel is rather TOO long), but is there ever a period longer than a week when it's up? (yes) It seems its down at least once or twice a week (rarely twice in one week since code was put in to defend against replicating attacks) ..and SL isn't entirely friendly with people on wireless, while I can play games like Day of Defeat or WoW or City of Heroes or many other MMO's. (they have a miniscule fraction of the amount of textures that SL does, and store them all on your hard drive when you install/patch. SecondLife downloads them as needed. You'd need a few thousand laptops to do the same with SL. )

Customer service is sadly a little poor, lindens dissapear to (TOO) fast when helping people, I know theres only a few, but that's not my fault now is it?

It's free...how is that a complaint? because it allows all these idiots who attempt to grief the living daylights out of things onto SL. (and it allows all the many more people, such as yourself, to enjoy SecondLife and decide for themselves whether they want to settle down here or not.)

On a scale of 1-10 SL gets a 7.5 (on a scale of 1-10, the :technical issues" of your post score a 0, (I saw none), the issues you raise score a 3)

"TO" or "TOO" ? If you can replace it with "VERY" or "ALSO", use "TOO", not "TO".

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I'm home sick today and yes, I'm taking out my misery on the forums.

God that was patronising and ridiculous, how much of a hard on did you get?

Regardless, SL is an absolute pain if you are paying or free account.

I used to pay, refuse at this time - but i contribute considerably to the economy. Maybe if people that pay the fees started refusing (a little revolution) then Lindens might take note and get their act together.

Well said.

This is my second comment on a forum, the first but 5 minutes ago

I would have no reason to complain but for the fact that I am paying money for land and for an account neither of which I am able to enjoy. I think SL is a magnificent achievement but the more magnificent it gets for me the more frustrating when it fails to work well.

Clearly peoples criticisms are born out of frustrations from an emotional perspective so technical points, however valid, miss the crux of the matter by a fair margin.

We are all fallible and imperfect but we miss our friends in SL and this enforced break from them should not occur as often as it does. In time LL may find that whingers actually do start to leave unless they conquer their server issues quite soon. I would hate to leave as I have a gf and property but my practical side has a say in my life too and occasionally my heart loses the argument.

I wish you all well.

Maf Mower

A lot of those textures you speak of are taken from other games. I can point it out in almost any place I go in SL and on a lot of products people sell. Mostly to do with guns, vehicles, furniture, houses etc . I'm not saying everyone steals them, and many people are oblivious to the fact some of the texture stores sell other peoples art, but those other game's textures are being stolen and used in SL by thieves anyway. I think SL would have as you put it a "miniscule" amount of textures itself, if it wasn't for those other games people rip the textures from. As I said I can spot them anywhere, and there's a group of us in Sl "cleaning up." We've actually been recording it all for a project we're doing with a few others in SL who are just as concerned about it. Should really anger those thieves. ... and I'm not even going to get into the animations files that have been stolen and converted over to SL, or the sounds.

Don't get me wrong I think SL is a great game, it's some of the users and the theft of other peoples hard work (without even crediting them) that bother me.