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Oryx Tempel

Registered User

Join date: 8 Nov 2006

Posts: 7,663

01-22-2008 09:30

Hi all, I'm sitting here at my buddy's house, trying to log on to SL because I need to pay someone some money. Well, also because I want to, LOL.

At any rate, he's running a cobbled together machine, made of bits and pieces here and there. In other words, it's not a Dell, Gateway, etc. He's got an Nvidia 6200, barely capable of running SL, but I just want to see if I can get it to work. I went to the Nvidia website and downloaded their latest driver versions (Dec 2007, I believe) but still get the SL message "Your drivers are outdated, and SL can't run, blah blah."

Now, when I download drivers for my own Gateway machine, I go to the Gateway website and download THEIR version of the Nvidia drivers (a guru told me to do this.) What can I do for my buddy's puter? How or where do I find what sort of version of the driver he needs?

Windows XP, FYI.

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Nika Talaj

now you see her ...

Join date: 2 Jan 2007

Posts: 5,449

01-22-2008 09:50

You can get that message often when you did not UNINSTALL the existing graphics drivers before upgrading. At that point, you have inconsistent driver version numbers on your machine, and SL (alone, of all the applications in teh metaverse) notices.

If you didn't uninstall, do so and reboot (it will use a default Windows graphics driver). Then upgrade again, and reboot.

Sometimes you have to clean the registry to get rid of the old info, It is a massive PIA.

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Kitty Barnett

Registered User

Join date: 10 May 2006

Posts: 5,586

01-22-2008 13:53

From: someone

Second Life is unable to run because your video card drivers are out of date or unsupported. Please make sure you have the latest video card drivers installed. If you continue to receive this message, contact customer service.

That's the error you're getting?

If so, the message is actually a bit misleading: the viewer isn't checking specific driver versions, but it was unable to initialize OpenGL, or more specifically it's running into:

From: someone

// We don't support cards that don't support the GL_ARB_multitexture extension
llwarns << "GL Drivers do not support GL_ARB_multitexture" << llendl;
return false;

which results in SL displaying the error message at the top of the post.

Try downloading and running glView (http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/extensions.html) and make sure that things look normal (under "Core Features" in the OpenGL tab, everything up to and including OpenGL v2.0 should be 100% supported for SL to be all happy and the card that's in the puter really should support at least that since it's newer than mine

). If they don't then there is a driver/card issue.

One cause seems to be that in the BIOS (usually have to hit the delete key or one of the Fx keys as soon as the puter resets/powers on) "Init Display First" or "Primary Adapter" (something along those lines) isn't set to the proper type that corresponds with the card (PCI/AGP/PCI-E), or on-board video is still enabled while there's a "real" card installed as well which confuses your puter.

Other than that, try running one of those video driver cleaner proggies and then reinstall them again and see if glView shows things are normal then (it also doesn't have to be the very last driver you can find since the viewer error is really about OpenGL problems).

Alyx Sands

Mental Mentor Linguist

Join date: 17 Feb 2007

Posts: 2,432

01-22-2008 16:47

Oryx, how much money are we talking about? I guess one of us (I for example

) can pay the person and you don't have to bother with getting a rock to run SL...

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Oryx Tempel

Registered User

Join date: 8 Nov 2006

Posts: 7,663

01-22-2008 19:43

Heh, thanks Alyx, it's no biggie. I got ahold of the person via e-mail.

Well I asked my buddy's roommate who is a programmer and knows Stuff Like This, and he said, "Dude, that graphics card is fucked up. I've done everything I can think of," and since I just uninstalled and reinstalled the newest drivers, and the NORMAL Windows display still has little lines going through it, I'm inclined to agree, LOL. So it's not the system, it's the 500 year old card.

Thanks all for your suggestions!

Love,
Oryx

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Drivers and a Cobbled Together Machine
Oryx Tempel Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,663	01-22-2008 09:30 Hi all, I'm sitting here at my buddy's house, trying to log on to SL because I need to pay someone some money. Well, also because I want to, LOL. At any rate, he's running a cobbled together machine, made of bits and pieces here and there. In other words, it's not a Dell, Gateway, etc. He's got an Nvidia 6200, barely capable of running SL, but I just want to see if I can get it to work. I went to the Nvidia website and downloaded their latest driver versions (Dec 2007, I believe) but still get the SL message "Your drivers are outdated, and SL can't run, blah blah." Now, when I download drivers for my own Gateway machine, I go to the Gateway website and download THEIR version of the Nvidia drivers (a guru told me to do this.) What can I do for my buddy's puter? How or where do I find what sort of version of the driver he needs? Windows XP, FYI. _____________________
Nika Talaj now you see her ... Join date: 2 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,449	01-22-2008 09:50 You can get that message often when you did not UNINSTALL the existing graphics drivers before upgrading. At that point, you have inconsistent driver version numbers on your machine, and SL (alone, of all the applications in teh metaverse) notices. If you didn't uninstall, do so and reboot (it will use a default Windows graphics driver). Then upgrade again, and reboot. Sometimes you have to clean the registry to get rid of the old info, It is a massive PIA. _____________________ . To contact forum folks, join the inworld group "The Forum Cartel". New residents with questions about SL more than welcome! We has parties! To contact forum scripters, join the inworld group "Scriptoratti" (thanks Void!). New scripter questions welcome!
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	01-22-2008 13:53 From: someone Second Life is unable to run because your video card drivers are out of date or unsupported. Please make sure you have the latest video card drivers installed. If you continue to receive this message, contact customer service. That's the error you're getting? If so, the message is actually a bit misleading: the viewer isn't checking specific driver versions, but it was unable to initialize OpenGL, or more specifically it's running into: From: someone // We don't support cards that don't support the GL_ARB_multitexture extension llwarns << "GL Drivers do not support GL_ARB_multitexture" << llendl; return false; which results in SL displaying the error message at the top of the post. Try downloading and running glView (http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/extensions.html) and make sure that things look normal (under "Core Features" in the OpenGL tab, everything up to and including OpenGL v2.0 should be 100% supported for SL to be all happy and the card that's in the puter really should support at least that since it's newer than mine ). If they don't then there is a driver/card issue. One cause seems to be that in the BIOS (usually have to hit the delete key or one of the Fx keys as soon as the puter resets/powers on) "Init Display First" or "Primary Adapter" (something along those lines) isn't set to the proper type that corresponds with the card (PCI/AGP/PCI-E), or on-board video is still enabled while there's a "real" card installed as well which confuses your puter. Other than that, try running one of those video driver cleaner proggies and then reinstall them again and see if glView shows things are normal then (it also doesn't have to be the very last driver you can find since the viewer error is really about OpenGL problems).
Alyx Sands Mental Mentor Linguist Join date: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,432	01-22-2008 16:47 Oryx, how much money are we talking about? I guess one of us (I for example ) can pay the person and you don't have to bother with getting a rock to run SL... _____________________ ~~I'm a linguist. RL sucks, but right now it's decided to be a little less nasty to me - you can still be nice to me if you want! ~~ ->Potestatem obscuri lateris nescitis.<-
Oryx Tempel Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,663	01-22-2008 19:43 Heh, thanks Alyx, it's no biggie. I got ahold of the person via e-mail. Well I asked my buddy's roommate who is a programmer and knows Stuff Like This, and he said, "Dude, that graphics card is fucked up. I've done everything I can think of," and since I just uninstalled and reinstalled the newest drivers, and the NORMAL Windows display still has little lines going through it, I'm inclined to agree, LOL. So it's not the system, it's the 500 year old card. Thanks all for your suggestions! Love, Oryx _____________________

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