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Walg Prunes

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03-17-2006 12:50

sorry if this has been requested a million times before.

im looking to buy a graphics card so i can use secondlife at home too.

i have a pentium4 1800mhz i think.

i need an agp graphics card.

what do you recommend?

thanks in advance!

walg prunes
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Ketra Saarinen

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03-17-2006 17:23

From: Walg Prunes

sorry if this has been requested a million times before.

im looking to buy a graphics card so i can use secondlife at home too.

i have a pentium4 1800mhz i think.

i need an agp graphics card.

what do you recommend?

thanks in advance!

walg prunes
nudist

What's your budget?

Not knowing that, I could reccomend a 7800GS as the best to get, or the 6800GS as a 'good' choice.

Ron Overdrive

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03-17-2006 17:36

From: Ketra Saarinen

What's your budget?

Not knowing that, I could reccomend a 7800GS as the best to get, or the 6800GS as a 'good' choice.

Or a 6600GT on a budget.

Torley Linden

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03-17-2006 17:42

I second the GeForce 6600GT for that spec, the introduction of cards like the 6800GS have put the 6600GT in a sweeter price spot. Also, I don't think a much faster card would be that effective (bottlenecks?).

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Ron Overdrive

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03-17-2006 17:49

From: Torley Linden

I second the GeForce 6600GT for that spec, the introduction of cards like the 6800GS have put the 6600GT in a sweeter price spot. Also, I don't think a much faster card would be that effective (bottlenecks?).

Well Torley, if all they play is SL then anything higher the a 6600GT is a waste of money until we finally get the 2nd gen rendering engine thats been in developement for god knows how long. If they do play other games and have the money for it, then I'd recomend a 6800GS/GT or a 7600GT/7800GS.

Torley Linden

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03-17-2006 18:05

True enough--and I most certainly hope that SL gets more eyecandy that makes good use of your GPU.

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Ron Overdrive

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03-17-2006 18:15

From: Torley Linden

True enough--and I most certainly hope that SL gets more eyecandy that makes good use of your GPU.

No offence Torley.. screw the eye candy just offload the work that should be on the GPU to the GPU. Do that and 99.9% of SL would cheer.

Striker Wolfe

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03-17-2006 18:31

From: Ron Overdrive

No offence Torley.. screw the eye candy just offload the work that should be on the GPU to the GPU. Do that and 99.9% of SL would cheer.

I second this motion.

Cottonteil Muromachi

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03-17-2006 20:45

From: Ron Overdrive

just offload the work that should be on the GPU to the GPU. Do that and 99.9% of SL would cheer.

Which part of the work that should be on the GPU, isn't on the GPU?

Ron Overdrive

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03-18-2006 04:27

From: Cottonteil Muromachi

Which part of the work that should be on the GPU, isn't on the GPU?

Local Lighting
Shadows
half the rendering calculations

SL is pretty much 90 - 95% CPU bound. Only thing the GPU does is final rendering with OpenGL unless you have Ansitropic Filtering, Anti-Alizing (spelling evades me this early in the morning), and/or ripple water enabled.

Torley Linden

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03-18-2006 04:31

From: Ron Overdrive

Local Lighting
Shadows

These are both inclusive as "eye candy"--

From: Steve Linden

Rather than dwell on the inadequacies of the existing local lighting model, I will simply say that we are right now in the process of replacing the existing local lighting with something that actually works. Stay tuned for more info in an upcoming release (sometime with in the next few months we hope).

/invalid_link.html

Yes, this will include more usage of the GPU.

It doesn't end there either.

From: Ron Overdrive

Anti-Alizing

Anti-aliasing, but this made me fondly think of Alizee.

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03-18-2006 18:14

From: someone

True enough--and I most certainly hope that SL gets more eyecandy that makes good use of your GPU.

From: someone

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Overdrive
Local Lighting
Shadows

These are both inclusive as "eye candy"--

Eccept you're implying you'd like to see NEW "eye candy," we've had local lighting and shadows for how long now? Quite a while, these are OLD "eye candy" and I meant we don't need any new "eye candy" till we recieve a much needed performance boost. The more eye candy you add the harder it gets to improve on speed wich is what SL really needs right now.

Torley Linden

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03-19-2006 12:40

From: Ron Overdrive

Eccept you're implying you'd like to see NEW "eye candy," we've had local lighting and shadows for how long now? Quite a while, these are OLD "eye candy" and I meant we don't need any new "eye candy" till we recieve a much needed performance boost. The more eye candy you add the harder it gets to improve on speed wich is what SL really needs right now.

O, to absolutely be clear on this, Ron: what I mean is BOTH NEW and OLD. I'm more of an AND person than an OR person. There's no need to be exclusive--as I wrote earlier, it's inclusive. Steve Linden earlier wrote of a better lighting model:

From: Steve Linden

Rather than dwell on the inadequacies of the existing local lighting model, I will simply say that we are right now in the process of replacing the existing local lighting with something that actually works. Stay tuned for more info in an upcoming release (sometime with in the next few months we hope).

Source

It wouldn't be Local Lighting as we know it in the way a Ford Model-T is a car, but not a contemporary of today's automobiles. Another good analogy is: if you're familiar with virtual analog synthesizers with simulated detuning--there you go!

I'm certainly for more FPS gains too--I'm a YUGE fan of the silkysmooth kinetics!

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04-04-2006 12:25

From: Ron Overdrive

Local Lighting
Shadows
half the rendering calculations

SL is pretty much 90 - 95% CPU bound. Only thing the GPU does is final rendering with OpenGL unless you have Ansitropic Filtering, Anti-Alizing (spelling evades me this early in the morning), and/or ripple water enabled.

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can you recommend a graphics card
Walg Prunes Registered User Join date: 6 Jan 2006 Posts: 6	03-17-2006 12:50 sorry if this has been requested a million times before. im looking to buy a graphics card so i can use secondlife at home too. i have a pentium4 1800mhz i think. i need an agp graphics card. what do you recommend? thanks in advance! walg prunes nudist
Ketra Saarinen Whitelock 'Yena-gal Join date: 1 Feb 2006 Posts: 676	03-17-2006 17:23 From: Walg Prunes sorry if this has been requested a million times before. im looking to buy a graphics card so i can use secondlife at home too. i have a pentium4 1800mhz i think. i need an agp graphics card. what do you recommend? thanks in advance! walg prunes nudist What's your budget? Not knowing that, I could reccomend a 7800GS as the best to get, or the 6800GS as a 'good' choice.
Ron Overdrive Registered User Join date: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,002	03-17-2006 17:36 From: Ketra Saarinen What's your budget? Not knowing that, I could reccomend a 7800GS as the best to get, or the 6800GS as a 'good' choice. Or a 6600GT on a budget.
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	03-17-2006 17:42 I second the GeForce 6600GT for that spec, the introduction of cards like the 6800GS have put the 6600GT in a sweeter price spot. Also, I don't think a much faster card would be that effective (bottlenecks?). _____________________
Ron Overdrive Registered User Join date: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,002	03-17-2006 17:49 From: Torley Linden I second the GeForce 6600GT for that spec, the introduction of cards like the 6800GS have put the 6600GT in a sweeter price spot. Also, I don't think a much faster card would be that effective (bottlenecks?). Well Torley, if all they play is SL then anything higher the a 6600GT is a waste of money until we finally get the 2nd gen rendering engine thats been in developement for god knows how long. If they do play other games and have the money for it, then I'd recomend a 6800GS/GT or a 7600GT/7800GS.
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	03-17-2006 18:05 True enough--and I most certainly hope that SL gets more eyecandy that makes good use of your GPU. _____________________
Ron Overdrive Registered User Join date: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,002	03-17-2006 18:15 From: Torley Linden True enough--and I most certainly hope that SL gets more eyecandy that makes good use of your GPU. No offence Torley.. screw the eye candy just offload the work that should be on the GPU to the GPU. Do that and 99.9% of SL would cheer.
Striker Wolfe . Join date: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 355	03-17-2006 18:31 From: Ron Overdrive No offence Torley.. screw the eye candy just offload the work that should be on the GPU to the GPU. Do that and 99.9% of SL would cheer. I second this motion.
Cottonteil Muromachi Abominable Join date: 2 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,071	03-17-2006 20:45 From: Ron Overdrive just offload the work that should be on the GPU to the GPU. Do that and 99.9% of SL would cheer. Which part of the work that should be on the GPU, isn't on the GPU?
Ron Overdrive Registered User Join date: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,002	03-18-2006 04:27 From: Cottonteil Muromachi Which part of the work that should be on the GPU, isn't on the GPU? Local Lighting Shadows half the rendering calculations SL is pretty much 90 - 95% CPU bound. Only thing the GPU does is final rendering with OpenGL unless you have Ansitropic Filtering, Anti-Alizing (spelling evades me this early in the morning), and/or ripple water enabled.
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	03-18-2006 04:31 From: Ron Overdrive Local Lighting Shadows These are both inclusive as "eye candy"-- From: Steve Linden Rather than dwell on the inadequacies of the existing local lighting model, I will simply say that we are right now in the process of replacing the existing local lighting with something that actually works. Stay tuned for more info in an upcoming release (sometime with in the next few months we hope). /invalid_link.html Yes, this will include more usage of the GPU. It doesn't end there either. From: Ron Overdrive Anti-Alizing Anti-aliasing, but this made me fondly think of Alizee. _____________________
Ron Overdrive Registered User Join date: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,002	03-18-2006 18:14 From: someone True enough--and I most certainly hope that SL gets more eyecandy that makes good use of your GPU. From: someone Quote: Originally Posted by Ron Overdrive Local Lighting Shadows These are both inclusive as "eye candy"-- Eccept you're implying you'd like to see NEW "eye candy," we've had local lighting and shadows for how long now? Quite a while, these are OLD "eye candy" and I meant we don't need any new "eye candy" till we recieve a much needed performance boost. The more eye candy you add the harder it gets to improve on speed wich is what SL really needs right now.
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	03-19-2006 12:40 From: Ron Overdrive Eccept you're implying you'd like to see NEW "eye candy," we've had local lighting and shadows for how long now? Quite a while, these are OLD "eye candy" and I meant we don't need any new "eye candy" till we recieve a much needed performance boost. The more eye candy you add the harder it gets to improve on speed wich is what SL really needs right now. O, to absolutely be clear on this, Ron: what I mean is BOTH NEW and OLD. I'm more of an AND person than an OR person. There's no need to be exclusive--as I wrote earlier, it's inclusive. Steve Linden earlier wrote of a better lighting model: From: Steve Linden Rather than dwell on the inadequacies of the existing local lighting model, I will simply say that we are right now in the process of replacing the existing local lighting with something that actually works. Stay tuned for more info in an upcoming release (sometime with in the next few months we hope). Source It wouldn't be Local Lighting as we know it in the way a Ford Model-T is a car, but not a contemporary of today's automobiles. Another good analogy is: if you're familiar with virtual analog synthesizers with simulated detuning--there you go! I'm certainly for more FPS gains too--I'm a YUGE fan of the silkysmooth kinetics! _____________________
Striker Wolfe . Join date: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 355	04-04-2006 12:25 From: Ron Overdrive Local Lighting Shadows half the rendering calculations SL is pretty much 90 - 95% CPU bound. Only thing the GPU does is final rendering with OpenGL unless you have Ansitropic Filtering, Anti-Alizing (spelling evades me this early in the morning), and/or ripple water enabled. http://secondlife.com/vote/index.php?get_id=812 VOTE VOTE VOTE!

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